IMO this should be a no brainer spot to keep the Dealer out of 'harms' way ...

We were in a PLO game (but it doesn't really matter) and a Player grabs a full stack of chips and starts to cut out 25 stacks. Upon reaching 75 the Player pauses VERY briefly and then announces 'Pot'. He continues to cut out the rest of what's in his hand which ends up being 110.

The Dealer announces the pot was 120 but your bet is 110 .... "FLOOR"

This ended up being a dispute/discussion among the Floors that was a lot bigger than what I thought it would be. There's an obvious angle that can be introduced here but should we put the burden of intent onto the Dealer?

Possible key items to consider ...
1) The speed that the stacks are being cut
2) How long of a pause do you allow for
3) What are the eyes of the bettor looking at
4) How close to the final bet should the stack brought out be
5) Multi-way or HU
6) Tournament or cash
7) None of this matters

I haven't perused RR or TDA, but I'm not sure I'll find anything very specific to this spot ... GL

I don't know much about PLO, but in my (somewhat limited) experience playing poker live, the verbal overcomes everything else.

On NL games, if a player is cuting he stack, announces all in and push the stack in parts, the verbal action is clearly an allin, and that's what must be considered.

The player clearly announced pot, so it's a pot bet, regardless the action (and chip amount) that was put ahead. The guy could spent any time on going for the 120 chips (that would be an ethical problem), but the bet should be of 120 chips - pot - size.

Shouldn’t that obviously depend on where the player cuts chips and what the house rules are about the location a player cuts chips?

Different rooms will have different rules regulating this. In my room, it would be a pot size bet and he could go back for the rest to cover his verbal bet. As long as you are still in the middle of your action of cutting chips, you are allowed to make a verbal bet that will be binding no matter how much you have in your hand.

Can he pause for 5 seconds with his hand on his chips and then announce bet size?
10 seconds? 20?

If you are still across the line with your original motion, your action is not complete, so yes. It would be weird, but 30, 40, 50 seconds or whatever.

Oh no! Someone might get a read!

I’ve had this happen to me when I thought I grabbed more chips then I did and announced a number/pot mid action (cutting chips). I had the ruling I could only bet what i brought with forward motion but I’d imagine the ruling varies a lot by room/floor. I didn’t even think of the possible problems at the time until a player objected and compared it to string betting which I now agree with that point of view. The action of moving chips forward and cutting them is a decisive betting action... you can’t let people make ambiguous actions and then override them afterwards with another action even if it is more definitive.

I'm going to let the player complete his bet before I call a string on him. As described, he didn't complete his bet when he announced Pot, so I'm going to allow the pot bet.

You must be joking??? So my stack is $1,000 I can bring say $75 in red across the line (into betting area) cut out $50 pause for up to 50 seconds then announce I am all in. I only play on the east coast but I can not think of one room that would allow this.

If a player did anything more than a few seconds, I'd imagine the floor would give the player a friendly nudge to try not to do that in the future even if it's technically not against the rules. How many seconds do you suggest the magical cutoff should be with timing, hmmm??? We don't need stopwatches out here.

In our room it goes like this. If you have not made a verbal declaration before your hand crosses the betting line, then the max you can bet is what is in your hand. You absolutely can't come forward with say a stack of 100 in reds, start to cut out a bet, and then say all in or any verbal amount greater than 100.

So in the OP example, the bet would be 110. It would be too late to declare pot after you have already come forward with less than the pot amount of chips.

It is against the rules at least where I play they don't allow a string raise. My example was to point out the absurdity in previous post.
"String Raise"

Noun

An increase to the size of a previous bet using more than one statement about the wager or using multiple motions to put chips into the pot; a raise that is made in the form of a string bet.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Many cardrooms forbid string raises. One reason for this is that opponent's reaction to the first portion of the action may impact a player's decision on whether or not to raise or how much to raise. Cardrooms typically require that all chips for a wager be put into the pot at the same time or that the total amount of chips be declared before putting any into the pot.

"I personally feel like this should be forbidden, and many card rooms forbid string raises, therefore this is a string raise."

I'm pretty sure all card rooms forbid string raises, but not for the reasons you think.

The confusion starts with you being unfamiliar with rooms that don’t have a hard betting line. I doubt Suit works in a room that has one and lots of players prefer it that way.

I think it's fair to expect a player to know the size of the bet they intend to make, before making the bet. With that in mind, if the pot is 120 and a player wanted to make bet pot, it's on them to either declare before moving chips into the pot, or being sure to bring at least 120 when they begin to move chips.

Regarding the pause, I don't want to penalize someone who may inadvertently pause... but I'm not pleased with the player who cuts out some chips into the pot, leaves the hand out there and deliberately waits for any reason. Cut a stack, cut another, visually check stack, add or remove a chip from a stack... you better be doing it while focused only on the bet. The player who wants to bet 40 or 50 and can't tell if they cut a stack of 4 or 5 at first can check/fix.

I'm not joking at all. First of all, I would like to know why you are pausing so long (50 seconds is a long time). Generally when this happens, we are talking about it all being instantaneously. Someone reaches out and starts cutting a stack when they realize they don't have enough so they state the amount they want to bet while they are still cutting the stack out. So, if you continue to abuse this and hold your hand out there mid cut while staring your opponent down to get a read, I am going to ask you to get real and knock that **** off.
I don't allow string raises in my room either.

I think you and I disagree about whether or not we are talking about a string raise. Even by your quoted definition it is not a string raise. It is one motion and a verbal statement at the same time. I am simply allowing the verbal statement to be valid. Anyone that acts before my hand comes out of the betting area is acting out of turn anyway and will face those consequences.

This is a pot sized bet and its not close imo. Verbalizing pot in plo is precisely to avoid confusion about size.

In many rooms when you verbalize pot makes all the difference.

yep

You guys are making this way too complicated. String Bet = completing an action, then changing it to a different action.

50 seconds or 50 minutes, if his hand is still out there, he hasn't completed anything.

We don't allow that because it's disruptive, no one likes it. But don't appoint yourself String Bet Sheriff and start meting out justice In The Name Of The String.

Bringing chips across line is 1 action adding to those chips verbally is 1 action
1+1=2. When a bet is made it needs to be made with one motion, one action or one declaration we can not "STRING" them together.

I think I'm going with YTF here. He's certainly got the experience to know what's what.

So a widely acceptable action of bringing a fistful of chips forward and saying "All in" at the same time, by your definition, is two actions? You're trying to play semantics to backup your opinion, but I don't think it's as convincing as you think.