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Old 05-15-2017, 10:12 AM   #276
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Re: Cruise Ship Poker Thread

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I would be careful about generalizing this to all their cruises. My wife (non-poker player) and I (I was in my late 20s at the time) did a Card Player cruise out of Boston in October 2014. The 1/2 games on that cruise were a nit fest; almost no one would put money in a pot. When I talked to Linda and Jan after, they said this can happen on some of the cruises that are outside of the Caribbean; you just get an older crowd. The higher games and non-HE games had a lot of experienced/good regs and weren't really good for making money either.

Now, the cruise was wonderful, and Card Player Cruises really does a masterful job with the logistics. If they had a cruise at a destination I wanted to go to, I would do it regardless of the dynamic I laid out in the first paragraph. However, if you're doing a non-Caribbean/Bahamas type cruise with them, I would calibrate my expectations to the games being fairly tough by the standards of whatever level you will be playing.
Thanks for the info. It must be variable as I've had a different experience on their non-Caribbean cruises. I've done their cruises once out of Boston to Canada, and once out of Seattle to Alaska. In both cases, I found the poker play similar to their Caribbean cruises.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:49 PM   #277
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@PotLuckNeeded: PokerXanadu nailed it. The only thing I will add it is that you don't *have* to have a roommate, but if you *don't* get a roommate you have to pay for the whole room yourself. In my case, I was travelling solo and they paired me with another cruiser who happened to be a 71-year-old man who's been playing poker for 50 years and was very generous about tutoring me, and a super nice guy, so it worked out very well.

Have you ever been on any cruise, poker or otherwise?
I've been on 2 singles cruises many years ago. It sounds very similar where the organization buys like 200 cabins, they have their own events and you can also access general cruise events with everyone else.

Thanks for the response (as well as PokerXanadu). I plan on booking the upcoming Alaska cruise.
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Old 05-15-2017, 06:51 PM   #278
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I've been on 2 singles cruises many years ago. It sounds very similar where the organization buys like 200 cabins, they have their own events and you can also access general cruise events with everyone else.

Thanks for the response (as well as PokerXanadu). I plan on booking the upcoming Alaska cruise.
note that alaska cruises are for the newly wed and the nearly dead and the casino is like empty almost every night. It's just a totally different crowd. Most excursions off ship are all day excursions though which is what you should be doing in alaska....enjoying God's country, not sitting in a casino. Note that during cruise season for Alaska - there are 20 hours of daylight.
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:20 PM   #279
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note that alaska cruises are for the newly wed and the nearly dead and the casino is like empty almost every night. It's just a totally different crowd. Most excursions off ship are all day excursions though which is what you should be doing in alaska....enjoying God's country, not sitting in a casino. Note that during cruise season for Alaska - there are 20 hours of daylight.
Are you talking about a cardplayercruises poker cruise, or just an Alaska cruise without cardplayercruises? There was plenty of participation in the poker room on the Alaska cruise I went on. Of course, like all cruises, the poker room was closed whenever the ship was docked in port.
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:25 AM   #280
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So I'm going to NCL Epic's Europe Cruise and I was wondering if anybody has experience from that cruise?

Many people have said that the rake is very high on NCL. I couldn't find that information on their website so I don't know if they have lowered the rake or it's different on Europe's cruises.

I don't have much live experience but I've been succesful low stake online player for a while now. Based on earlier posts I think I would have an edge because of the poor field? Too high rake might still be massive turn-off.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:13 PM   #281
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I was on a cruise recently, the Carnival Elation, they had 1 electronic poker table and nobody used it once the entire trip that I ever saw, making frequent trips through the casino every night.

I get the feeling had there been a live dealer there would have been a game going most nights.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:29 AM   #282
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Somebody has to be the first to sit to try to get it going.

Usually helps if the cruise puts cash game starting at 7pm 1/2 NL or has a tourney and then the cash game starts afterwards.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:51 AM   #283
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They had Texas Hold Em meet ups a few times a day on the cruise ship itinerary they passed out every day. It didn't really seem to make any difference as far as I could tell.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:11 PM   #284
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It's been a few years since I was on Carnival but back then you could play 3 or 4 handed with no rake. This would let you start a game with your SO for nothing, just settle up later if the other person wasn't a poker player. They could just sit out or leave when other people sat down.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:51 PM   #285
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I was on a 7 night Alaska cruise on Royal Caribbean Explorer of the Seas. They had a live table with dealer. They had a game most nights but it would not get going until 10 or so. Most players were the same each night, skill level varied. Buy in was $5-300 and it was a 1/3 nl game. Dealers were for the most part good. Rake was 10% up to $15 per hand, yes up to $15 per hand, but I dont think you could get to the competition very easy. Most nights one or two people would sit there until there were 4 ready to play, as soon as game was going it would fill. Usually died off by 130 or 2 each morning, but so did the whole ship. When there was one or two waiting they would make repeated announcements to try and get more seats filled.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:35 PM   #286
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those meet ups are basically meaningless. Been "several" cruises and have never seen one of them start a game. I have never seen the LGBT ones do anything either. All they cost carnival ink and now even those are going electronic.

Been on several cruises on three different companies. Poker pro have been the best and most games. But once, most recent, they were the worst. With live dealers the game is normally 2-5 instead of 1-2. So less drop in's and $20 do me. With live dealer games are almost always just at night. Some tournaments in day but horrid structure. I prefer poker pro.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:38 PM   #287
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It's been a few years since I was on Carnival but back then you could play 3 or 4 handed with no rake. This would let you start a game with your SO for nothing, just settle up later if the other person wasn't a poker player. They could just sit out or leave when other people sat down.
Two handed no rake. Third joins rake starts. But can sit and fold blinds for free if both of you want.
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Old 08-15-2017, 06:16 AM   #288
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Re: Cruise Ship Poker Thread

Shouldn't this thread be in venues?
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:19 AM   #289
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Two handed no rake. Third joins rake starts. But can sit and fold blinds for free if both of you want.
Some ships will just always have more and better games running based on demograpics of ship/intenerary etc.

But even within that, any given week can vary widely. One would be surprised on how just 2-4 "regs" on a 3,000 person ship can effect games running for that week.

The key is just getting the game started with a few players. It usually will fill up quickly after that.

Question for Fore and others....

Would rake free to 3-handed make a difference or does the 2-handed rake free accomplish most of the goal.

Any other ideas youd like to see implemented to solve the "get the game started " problem ?

Any other ideas or general suggestions you have to make the games better on Poker Pro / Carnival ? (cant use the work "rake" though )

If you were in charge of Poker on a ship for a week, what you would do that is not currently being done?
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:35 AM   #290
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Re: Cruise Ship Poker Thread

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Shouldn't this thread be in venues?
I think it's fine in the main forum. Otherwise, it would be akin to having a thread called "greyhound track poker" or "horse racing poker rooms" and requiring that to be in the Poker Venues section.

If you or anyone else has further thoughts on this issue though, we'd welcome the discussion in the Moderation Discussion Thread.
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:13 PM   #291
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Re: Cruise Ship Poker Thread

Has anyone sailed out of New Orleans in the past year? Either RC or CCL. Planning on going in February and hoping there will be more poker than my last cruise out of New Orleans about 4 years ago. No poker other than a LOL tourney.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:22 PM   #292
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RC does not sail from NOLA. NOLA has CcL and NCL sailings. Galveston has CCL and RC.

CCL ships use Ppro electronic tables. Most have just one with a few having two. The game is 1-3 NLHE. Though I guess theoretically stakes or game could be changed I never have. Note I have been taking 2 to 4 cruises per yr for about five yrs now.

NCL and RC use live dealers. They are universally horrid and so are the sups who act as floor. Bad knowledge. Bad procedures. Bad rule set. The game here is 5-2 NLHE. These hurt the game. Pure rooks seem to have more fear of the table and stakes. The games go less hours, almost always only at night when there is more other entertainment. Those who play generally play at least a little back home but still play poorly but nitty.

Rake is horrid usually 10%. With a cap of $15 to $25 or uncapped. This is true for electronic or live dealers. But with electronic two players can play with no rake. This can help get the game going. But even with the horrid rake both games can be beat because players are that bad. But with a $20 buyin on the ppro table some complete rookies will lose buyin after buyin and continue to pay hands where they never could have the tight odds post flop and then quickly lose $200. Meanwhile live dealer games with a $100 or more min buy keeps these same players away.

On land I am not a ppro fan. But on a cruise ship its lower buyin, lower stakes, more hands per hour, as many as twice the hands, and no rake heads up make them more profitable.
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