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10-20-2018 , 08:06 PM
These 3:

1. I mistakenly call $2 in 1-2 game (it was 10), so I start to take it back. No go says dealer. Fine. My hand is right on the line kind of in limbo. Me and dealer grab at it same time. He yanks it. Then holds it. Then says you owe the $2, nasty like. I say it is already in the pot, wtf? "Is my hand dead or alive?" He's holding it in his hand and says, 'I don't know, BUT YOU OWE THE $2." Again, it's already in the pot Amazing.

So I get felted J-J against 5-6 off-suit $125 preflop a couple hands later. He goes on board with quad sixes. I bring out 3 blacks, mistaking buyin for 300 when it is only 200. Dealer calls floor like I'm really in bad violation or something.

2. Dude bets $100 on flop, guy calls way over the line with about 400 in green chips in hand, cuts off the 100. I do the exact same. Dealer calls me down on it, "Over the line stays in pot." Stern warning. "Don't do it again." Homie ... whatever you want to do.

3. And this one can hardly be believed. PLO. I flop top set, bet 200 instacall. Blank. I bet what I had left 250 or so. Guy instacalls pushing his chips in, then said, "Twice?" I said "Once." He grabs chips back and puts them in front of him. Dealer says nothing, absolutely nothing. but I think this was a case where he wasn't paying enough attention. (We got it straight without his help and I won the pot.) Strange.

The homie versus the stranger thing???
10-20-2018 , 09:04 PM
ok
10-21-2018 , 03:22 AM
Maybe that dealer just doesn't like stoned players.
10-21-2018 , 03:21 PM
I was playing at a card room last Saturday. I am overweight. (I am working on losing weight).

Card dealer (who is massively overweight himself) says: "you are making those players beside you feel like Sardines" and also says "you know you are not a skinny man right .. try online poker"

I am not sure if he was joking and just had a bad sense of humor. Nobody laughed at the table. I felt really embaressed. Honestly, I think it affected my play that night.
10-21-2018 , 04:31 PM
DEALER: You know you are not a skinny man right .. try online poker.

ME: Could you call the floor please?

FLOOR: Yes?

ME: (to dealer) Tell him what you just told me.
10-21-2018 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
DEALER: You know you are not a skinny man right .. try online poker.

ME: Could you call the floor please?

FLOOR: Yes?

ME: (to dealer) Tell him what you just told me.
They don't care, really. Poker dealer has been there for years.
10-21-2018 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewoldpro
They don't care, really. Poker dealer has been there for years.
I guess he doesn't want tips from fat guys.

I'd probably have said something like "maybe you should try dealing online poker... It matches your skill set".
10-22-2018 , 12:43 AM
I don't know if OP has a question or not.

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Originally Posted by chillrob
I'd probably have said something like "maybe you should try dealing online poker...
One of my regulars hadn't seen me in awhile because I wasn't getting a lot of hours (slow in the summer). He joked that I can probably get a job dealing online and since people usually tip the smallest chip on the table, I could make like 25 cents a down or something.
10-24-2018 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
These 3:

1. I mistakenly call $2 in 1-2 game (it was 10), so I start to take it back. No go says dealer. Fine. My hand is right on the line kind of in limbo. Me and dealer grab at it same time. He yanks it. Then holds it. Then says you owe the $2, nasty like. I say it is already in the pot, wtf? "Is my hand dead or alive?" He's holding it in his hand and says, 'I don't know, BUT YOU OWE THE $2." Again, it's already in the pot Amazing.

So I get felted J-J against 5-6 off-suit $125 preflop a couple hands later. He goes on board with quad sixes. I bring out 3 blacks, mistaking buyin for 300 when it is only 200. Dealer calls floor like I'm really in bad violation or something.

2. Dude bets $100 on flop, guy calls way over the line with about 400 in green chips in hand, cuts off the 100. I do the exact same. Dealer calls me down on it, "Over the line stays in pot." Stern warning. "Don't do it again." Homie ... whatever you want to do.

3. And this one can hardly be believed. PLO. I flop top set, bet 200 instacall. Blank. I bet what I had left 250 or so. Guy instacalls pushing his chips in, then said, "Twice?" I said "Once." He grabs chips back and puts them in front of him. Dealer says nothing, absolutely nothing. but I think this was a case where he wasn't paying enough attention. (We got it straight without his help and I won the pot.) Strange.

The homie versus the stranger thing???
It's possible these dealers overreacted a little. It's also possible you over reacted to them fixing things that were problems.

Except the last one. The plo one is bad if the player said I no longer call if you don't go twice. I'm not sure that's what happened. You were very clear on your "we sorted it out"
10-24-2018 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I guess he doesn't want tips from fat guys.
That sort of dealer shouldn't get tipped by anyone, fat or skinny.
10-24-2018 , 01:43 PM
Live poker can be annoying. Some dealers are annoying. Some players are annoying. This OP sounds like all three adding up to annoying everyone else at the tables!
10-25-2018 , 10:56 AM
Sounds like this dealer straight up doesn't like you.

Human interactions surrounding borderline or ambiguous situations often shift towards peoples own biases. #2 illustrates this pretty well, where you were treated differently for doing the exact. same. thing.

Sorry dude. Not much you can do I think. I'm not tipping any dealer acting like this towards anybody but that's not much recourse compared to the potential impact it has on you.
10-25-2018 , 11:25 AM
I remember an A-Hole dealer many years ago. He wasn't overly rude with me, but he was to many, one guy in particular who was a push over and just accepted the attacks from him.

One day I was told he hit a moose on the drive home, totaled his car, suffered many broken bones, was off work for a month. He was less verbal when he returned.

Life always has a way of settling the score.
10-27-2018 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Scientist
Sounds like this dealer straight up doesn't like you.

Human interactions surrounding borderline or ambiguous situations often shift towards peoples own biases. #2 illustrates this pretty well, where you were treated differently for doing the exact. same. thing.

Sorry dude. Not much you can do I think. I'm not tipping any dealer acting like this towards anybody but that's not much recourse compared to the potential impact it has on you.
I still don't like stiffing even when it is warranted. Recently I stiffed a big pot for one of those hands, dealer holding my hand saying he doesn't know if it is dead of live, and the next hand I lose stack J-J vs 5-6 on 6-6-6 flop. He called 125 I think pre. Dealer and player get snarkey.
10-27-2018 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
I still don't like stiffing even when it is warranted. Recently I stiffed a big pot for one of those hands, dealer holding my hand saying he doesn't know if it is dead of live, and the next hand I lose stack J-J vs 5-6 on 6-6-6 flop. He called 125 I think pre. Dealer and player get snarkey.
You're better than me sir.

Your loss was due to bad luck, his loss was due to being a d-bag.
10-27-2018 , 11:20 PM
For whatever its worth, making me want to rage, tonight is stack death on 3-outer first hand I play (his 3-outer also gave me the nut flush draw). A few hands later there is a straddle up on the button plain as day, two red chips on button, I pick up A-K and raise ... but the straddle has disappeared. I tell the dealer, "He straddled the pot." I'm at my breaking point which took a 2 1/2 years adn 160 sessions of utter death. Dealer ignores me. I point to the guy and say, "You straddled." He completely ignores it, he had to. Dealer then speaks up and says she didn't see it. Totally incompetent dealer constantly making little mistakes. I hate her sits. What Jung called "the shadow" flared in my psyche ... effin' rage. Jung famously said he discovered the shadow when part of him wanted to commit homicide on a professor who had accused him of plagiarism, when in fact the professor wasn't qualified to wipe his ass). Two hands later I flop flush and straight draw, busted by pocket aces of course, can't beat two deuces with my hand. Never felt this at poker. Did damage to several inanimate objects. And this has never happened, was driving 80 mph thru a 45 with no idea, looked down and thought I was seeing the speedometer wrong. Cussing like banshee. I did try to vow not to tip ever again when she had no clue the angle the guy pulled. But I've vowed that before and didn't do it. Couldn't find my calm button, took a 20 minute walk outside cussing like a sailor, mostly under my breath, not completely. I'm a great player obviously.
10-28-2018 , 12:25 AM
Take up chess.

Nobody but you has control of your destiny at chess.
10-28-2018 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Nozsr
Take up chess.

Nobody but you has control of your destiny at chess.
yup
10-28-2018 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyfry2
One day I was told he hit a moose on the drive home, totaled his car, suffered many broken bones, was off work for a month. He was less verbal when he returned.

Life always has a way of settling the score.
We need a lot more moose if this is how it gets squared away....
10-28-2018 , 05:04 PM
Yeah dude, that shadow is gonna kill your winrate. You gotta find your ghandi to survive this game.

But I'd stand up as soon as I see that dealer. Just knowing the probability of tilt is so high.
11-06-2018 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I guess he doesn't want tips from fat guys.

I'd probably have said something like "maybe you should try dealing online poker... It matches your skill set".
Right in the gutter, love it
12-11-2018 , 10:12 PM
More fodder for the perception of the phenomenon ... yeah, I know, I'm creating it:

I was changed wrong twice today, then this:

Dealer makes change for all on flop but tells me, "Change coming." Okay. He is snapping cards off turn and river very loud, it really makes a cool cracking sound around the room. I TOLD HIM MONTHS AGO he could cut his finger doing that, that I had done it once. He's like, "Yeah, right." So he cuts the shyt out of his finger and calls for help and leaves the table mid hand. Guess who doesn't get his change? (Eventual winner of pot gave it to me.)

I move tables. I finally make a hand after about 6 hold'em sessions of nothing. I table pocket queens for queens full. Three other people calling on river, board is Q-9-6-9-K. I had checked turn after filling, hoping they'd make some straights and flushes. All three other players have a king. First she is trying to kill my hand, then she is trying to give the side pot to someone else. It took two players speaking up for my side of it for her to give me the damn pots, at which time she didn't admit the mistake but changed her story, "That's what I said" type crap.

The rule is you don't win a hand and when you do it continuously gets overlooked which isn't happening anywhere else for the sits, wrong change or killing winners.

It all proves is a solipsistic universe. I'm creating it. I'm willing it to fulfill some perverse side of me. It happened three times in a row the other night ... the dealer doesn't see my winners. Amazing.

Last edited by FellaGaga-52; 12-11-2018 at 10:19 PM.
12-11-2018 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
More fodder for the perception of the phenomenon ... yeah, I know, I'm creating it:

I was changed wrong twice today, then this:

Dealer makes change for all on flop but tells me, "Change coming." Okay. He is snapping cards off turn and river very loud, it really makes a cool cracking sound around the room. I TOLD HIM MONTHS AGO he could cut his finger doing that, that I had done it once. He's like, "Yeah, right." So he cuts the shyt out of his finger and calls for help and leaves the table mid hand. Guess who doesn't get his change? (Eventual winner of pot gave it to me.)

I move tables. I finally make a hand after about 6 hold'em sessions of nothing. I table pocket queens for queens full. Three other people calling on river, board is Q-9-6-9-K. I had checked turn after filling, hoping they'd make some straights and flushes. All three other players have a king. First she is trying to kill my hand, then she is trying to give the side pot to someone else. It took two players speaking up for my side of it for her to give me the damn pots, at which time she didn't admit the mistake but changed her story, "That's what I said" type crap.

The rule is you don't win a hand and when you do it continuously gets overlooked which isn't happening anywhere else for the sits, wrong change or killing winners.

It all proves is a solipsistic universe. I'm creating it. I'm willing it to fulfill some perverse side of me. It happened three times in a row the other night ... the dealer doesn't see my winners. Amazing.
During my last trip to Manila, I had to point out almost every time I won a pot with dubs over top pair as the dealer would push the pot over to the player who tabled top pair
12-12-2018 , 09:56 AM
I'm reading this and I'm having a hard time understanding how its possible. OP has had more dealer miscalls of winners and omissions in one night than I've had happen to me in the last 12 years of playing poker (close to 1,000 hours per year for the first 10 years). And I play mostly at Foxwoods.

So what I am going to say is this. When that ultra mean dealer sits down, its time for a break. Dinner break, whatever. Something is very off with that dealer. Also something is very off with the room/game. If there were any other options I would take them.

And finally, if this is happening with more than one dealer and especially if its happening in more than one room I would do some serious introspection. After my 10th failed long term relationship, I finally had to admit to myself that the only thing in common with all of the women I had dated, was me.
12-12-2018 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rick
I'm reading this and I'm having a hard time understanding how its possible. OP has had more dealer miscalls of winners and omissions in one night than I've had happen to me in the last 12 years of playing poker (close to 1,000 hours per year for the first 10 years). And I play mostly at Foxwoods.

So what I am going to say is this. When that ultra mean dealer sits down, its time for a break. Dinner break, whatever. Something is very off with that dealer. Also something is very off with the room/game. If there were any other options I would take them.

And finally, if this is happening with more than one dealer and especially if its happening in more than one room I would do some serious introspection. After my 10th failed long term relationship, I finally had to admit to myself that the only thing in common with all of the women I had dated, was me.
There's something to be said about this. It could be that because of earlier problems OP, you're subconsciously giving off a hatred for this dealer which she is picking up and making the situation happen each time and worse. Even the omaha hand could just be the dealer's mind not being on the game and nothing personal against you. Maybe she has problems at home etc. Or Maybe you remind her of her husband, or ex or something.

But in either case, I agree. Just remove yourself when she sits down.
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