When you leave a game do you take chips off the table?

Moderator: Who would you like to play poker against?

Billy Madison: I choose PokerEthics.

what kind of answers do you expect here? there is literally NOTHING you can do about it outside of illegal means.

isn't there a famous Chip Reese anecdote about this? Some dude sat with him for 20 minutes and doubled up and left and instead of getting mad he congratulated him and said, "That right there is why I have been a winning player in Vegas for over 20 years".

how old are you? you seem very immature

Did anyone roll their eyes?

What about legal means like speech play....

Can I be like,

“The jerk store called, they’re running out of customers”

Old enough to play the pokes

Of course.. I’ve been fighting universal eye rolling my entire adult and kid life... about tree fitty weeks tbh.

On a side note the one of the best moments of my life was when I ordered away for a dick Tracy watch... it was a lesson in anticipation as the build up was way better than the actual watch post cereal sent me. So ya I’m a big fan of yours.

When I stack someone I literally give them an orbit or two to lose more money... in a way that’s the strangest part about hitting and running I never understood. Shouldn’t the player want to try and win more off the player that just lost?

I used to do that but it’s pointless. Leave whenever you want. There’s no rules or ethics involved. I often play with same players so my move is to announce I’m leaving in x number of hands or a set time. So if I stack someone there is no optics of a HNR.

Btw I’ve played at fox/Mohegan for 15+ years. People will HNR it’s part of the game. Get over it. Sounds like you have mindset/tilt issues to work on tbh.

You can certainly do that. Especially if you're already used to others rolling their eyes at you.

If you lose a buyin then win one some number of hands later, what difference does it make whether the win and loss involved the same opponent or two different ones? I thought the goal was to win money, not to beat specific opponents. Unless the player leaving will result in the game breaking up, why does it matter that the person left after stacking you?

We have a few Regs where we will go and get the racks for them! We know that it's just a dead seat and a matter of time before the Player gets up and goes. So we help them along with some playful banter in an effort to get a new Player into the game. Obv this sounds mean-spirited and without a very long track record should never be done, but it also send the Player a message that their behavior is noticed.

I've lost plenty of chips when I've ran up a big stack but felt obligated to stay in the game longer. Post CV it seems my attitude about this has waned and I'm doing a little more protecting of my stack. If I'm in for 3 BI and get to even I'm much more likely to leave than yester-year even if the game is good.

Plenty of thread discussions on how your mental 'game' changes based on your stack size. While we really never want to double a guy up and 'never' have a chance to get those chips back (today), it is part of the games and to each their own in their opinion on this matter. GL

In my many years of live poker, I don’t think that I have ever been annoyed that a player is doing a hit and run. And it never occurred to me that I should care about what other players are thinking of me if I happen to leave ahead after a short session. I just leave.

The thing is, if you are playing in most low or mid stake live games, the next player that sits down is likely to be a fish. If the player is very unlikely to be a fish, that’s tough luck because you have a bad game. The point is, don’t worry about the last player that was in that seat; worry about the next player who sits in that seat.

Well, that's fine. Only I don't think you're grasping what the live hit-and-run player wants. They're playing fit-or-fold and figure their shorter stack will be called by the larger stacks more easily. Their focus is on the now and they don't truly understand the game.

As a side note, this doesn't apply to the online short-stack HnR players. Some of them are actually playing an advantage.

I was playing with a full 200bb buy in and hit and run villain had me covered.

This villain is semi competent too..

I do agree that online short stacks are more competent in general than live ones though.

If I had all the money back that I lost to getting buttoned online....

We all pay a blind bet to get in the game, with the exception of a new live game table opening. The blind bet is always negative ev(think button is +ev, but thats why you must either wait for big blind, buy the button or post in cutoff+).

Then we all have the rest of our session, as long or as short as we see fit, to recoup this loss.

So if I post in cutoff, then immediately quit, whats my true winrate look like? 1 hand in cutoff with a 1bb or 1.5bb post? Play till big blind then quit?

That first round is likely -ev in long run even for experts because of the blind bet(and no button ev). Thus any complaint for this occurrence is complaining that someone just donated to the table.

Once someone posts the big blind(an unprofitable bet; your negative expectation in big blind is distributed to the other positions) that player has lost ev to the table, and the small blind post compounds this loss. The free positions may or may not have an ev sum that exceeds the ev lost in the blinds(winners exceed. Losers come up short).

Depending on long term winrate, it could take any number of orbits for a player to recoup the loss of posting. Losers never recoup. Experts recoup quickly.

Thats why my philosophy on hit and run frees me from bad feelings I experience when someone quits after taking my chips. Just dont ****ing button me.

Since hnr tilts people so much I should start doing it more often so I'll have a huge mental advantage over someone the next time we play.

/tthricainec

But that would require you to have a buy in

ROFL - burn - lol

Did I hit and run last night?

1) I was an hour late to the game due to eating a birthday dinner out with the family
2) I left at my normal time, so my session was only 65%
3) First BI went busto on a RIT with V sucking out twice within the first 30 minutes
4) 2nd BI was 3x on some marginal 4-way PF play .. and then finished at 4x

Nothing but crickets when I left, but it allowed a contributor to sit down, so maybe is was all for the best. GL

This isn't irony.

Hypocritical?

50% smug + 50% snivel = 1.0 quip.