Welcome to the 2019 edition of the Casino & Cardroom Poker Forum Low-Content & Chat Tread.

This is where your low-content posts belong. Anything too small to deserve its own thread, but still CCP related and worth posting. Chit chat amongst the community is also allowed.

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Here is a link to last year's thread.

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Happy new year, all.

All: please note the announcement at the top of the forum - 2+2 will be down tonight for approximately 8 hours as the forums are moved to a new server.

Any cake with coconut enhanced frosting is a friend of mine!

If you tell me that the cake is Cherry Chip, then I'll be PMing for a location. GL

Any thought on 'hours' based promos and how they affect the room in general?

Our newest room paid the top 15 'hours played' regs in November a tiered 'reward' from the promo fund.

Now they have a WSOP ME Seat Freeroll promo ... All you have to do is play 200+ hours before March 31st to play in the April 7th Freeroll, which is supposed to have an additional $15K added for 2nd-?? (11% of the field). So $30K is coming from the promo fund .. They are also offering a $100 re-entry during the tournament, but I'm not sure if that's 'added' or offsetting the additional prize pool.

I've seen the 'play' in the room tighten up immensely as Players are trying to get their 16.5 hours per week in to stay on pace for 200. I also feel that these types of promos have an affect on other Players since there's a certain point where they know they can't 'win' and feel somewhat discouraged over the promo funds going to places they can't reach.

From the business side tight play keeps Players from blowing through their bankroll, which keeps the rake machine rolling, but I worry about the overall mood in the room when so many people are just 'putting in their time' ...

Any thoughts? GL

I wish my state gaming commission would allow me to use my "promo fund" the way you describe. Unfortunately they see things the way you describe some of the players that have an issue with it. I can't use the money for anything unless everyone has the exact same chance to win it. It has to be available to win at any time there is a game (that rakes into the promo fund) running. For example: I can't use the money for a high hand of the hour unless it is available every hour of every day. I can't have an "earn your way into this" type of promo. It really is a very tight restraint that makes it difficult to have good promotions.

Hate 'em. Much more prefer high hand or best hand promos, especially boat or better. If the bonus is big enough, nobody wants to fold a pocket pair or suited connectors.

Surprised you can get away with anything other than random seat drawings. Players don't really have an equal chance of winning high hand bonuses.

Why not?

Some players are far more likely to see all 7 cards than others. Somewhat because of the way they play, but also because of the other player tendencies and the game structure. I'm sure way more high hands are hit in a 2-4 limit game then in a 2-5 NL game.

But they all have the same chance to play the same way. How they choose to play is on them. I, as the room manager, am giving them all the same chance to win. It is up to them to maximize their chances how they see fit.

Depends on how you look at it I guess. But someone could choose to play the same way in different games and still have different chances to win. Not because of anything you did though.

That's like saying it's not fair because a calling station is more likely to hit their high hand than a tight player. It's the same thing.

When the cards are run out, the statistics are the same. Every player has the same chance to hit the same hands. This isn't that hard.


Obviously, if you looked only at results, the data sets would so that yes, high hands hit more often in limit games. It doesn't change the inherent mathematical chances of the frequency of hand values.

I would agree it's like saying that, but it's really saying I don't think it meets the qualifications of what he said the rule was, "each player has exactly the same chance to win."
I agree it's kind of a silly rule.

I'm not sure that what you think overrides the math.

The rule doesn't mention math. Do you think every player entering the poker room has the exact same chance to leave a winner?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not. The comment was "everyone has the same chance". When the cards are dealt, everyone has the same chance. The game is fair.

Not trolling. I disagree that those promotions are any more fair than the kind he specifically stated he is not allowed to have.

I personally don't care about high hand promos as I play in games that typically don't participate in them, but from what I've heard from dealers they get heavily abused by the smallest stakes limit players.

An entire table limping with high hand eligible hands and then checking down to the river while making sure the table hits the minimum pot size requirements if anyone catches a high hand is extremely common.

Might as well rename the promo to "2/4 limit appreciation night"

Can two players switch seats at the table?

Yes .. seen it many times .. Typically to get a player with vision problems into the 4-6 area for a better view of the Board. One time was for a TV view, and he got $10 to make the move. GL

PS .. obv not in a tournament ..

interesting - just saw it for the first time - since there is a procedure in place to move to a seat when a player leaves, I thought there might be a rule against it.

This could come in handy trying to get position on a laggy player

Isn't poker amazing ?? When you talk about a holding, it almost always shows up within the next few hands. Well, we've been talking promos here ... and BANG ... on the slowest, worst weather night of the winter so far the BBJ hits for $228K in the room.

Poker friend was at the next table ... Shows up for the Monday 2/5 game, doesn't run and then he has to watch the BBJ hit at the next table!! He's a lightning rod for jackpots, just doesn't win any of them!! He was in Vegas and playing Pai Gow with friends when they got tired of PG and switched to another table game. He plays a few more hands before joining them ... Guy sits down in 'his' seat and wins $1.4M straight flush jackpot in very next deal, which would've been his cards had he played one more hand!!

I don't know if I should follow him around or stay away? GL

how does pay work for dealers at WSOP?
an dhow does rio get all those dealers?