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Old 04-03-2010, 10:23 PM   #1
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cash game tipping the dealer

Im tryen to figure out if this would be cutting into my profits. last night i won a 300 dollar pot and tipped $5 and i won a $250 pot and tipped $5. the rest of the pots under $200 i was tipping $1 or $2 if it was bigger.

what do you generally tip at the casino? also usually when i rack up to cash out if i have like $303 ill just give the dealer the $3. am i tipping too much to be a consistent winner at this level, what would you suggest i change. thanks.
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:27 PM   #2
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Re: cash game tipping the dealer

Before this gets closed, see #6 (and the rest of them). You'll find many past discussions of this via search.
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:42 PM   #3
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Re: cash game tipping the dealer

ya i searched. i was just wonderin if any1 had like a formula or equation to see how much money id be losing in profit a year if i tipped $1,$2,$3 etc per pot won.
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:44 PM   #4
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If you're concerned about tipping affecting your win rate, you're not as good as you think that you are, or should be.
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:44 PM   #5
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ya i searched. i was just wonderin if any1 had like a formula or equation to see how much money id be losing in profit a year if i tipped $1,$2,$3 etc per pot won.
errr.... (ave pots won per hour) * (ave tip) * (hours played)
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:48 PM   #6
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If you're concerned about tipping affecting your win rate, you're not as good as you think that you are, or should be.
well sum1 told me if im tippin more than 2 bucks a pot on average at 1/2 then id be losing like 4 bucks and hr and if my winrate is only 10 bucks an hr then that reduces it to 6 bucks an hr. i dunno i just feel like i tipped too much last night when i gave 5 bucks twice, do you think 2 dollars is enough for real big pots? and 1 dollar for pots that are smallish but more than just the blinds/$10
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:55 PM   #7
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If you're concerned about tipping affecting your win rate, you're not as good as you think that you are, or should be.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:00 PM   #8
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Re: cash game tipping the dealer

well, are you guys sayin it isn't too much to tip 5 dollars for a $150 win (300 buck pot)

can someone give me a basic guideline for how much to tip on each pot amount? i'd appreciate it. also i noticed players tip the dealer when they switch dealers, if i was up some money i usually give the dealer a dollar when he/she leaves.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:04 PM   #9
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Re: cash game tipping the dealer

Tip $1 a hand. $5 is too much.

Or, you could listen to the dealers and their friends here.

I don't know any dealers on foodstamps.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:05 PM   #10
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I used to prop at a local card room, tipping at low stakes games can be killer when you factor in the 110-120 in rake leaving the table every hour. only tip what you are comfortable with, if you are playing 1/2 nl you probably aren't playing for a living, but why don't you just try recording how much you tip on average per hour for a month and see how much it can be reduced by reducing your tipping in big pots/ eliminating tipping in small pots/ only tipping when you are up and figure out for yourself if the money saved truly influences your overall win rate.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:07 PM   #11
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It depends on your outlook on life. Tipping $1 each pot is probably the socially acceptable minimum. Kicking in a bit more on big pots is up to you, being seen as cheap by others at the table can become a table dynamic issue...
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:08 PM   #12
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Re: cash game tipping the dealer

tip what you feel is appropriate. I don't play live very often, but if I were playing 1/2 for a living (maybe up to 2/5 or so depending on rake) I'd probably stick to 1-2 dollar tips unless it is a monster pot. If I went to the casino to play for fun I'd probably toss a couple extra bucks to the dealer in big pots.

Generally speaking when I used to play at the casino, at 1/2 kind of games if it was less than a 10 dollar pot, no tip, if it were 20-100 a buck or two and 200+ 2-5 bucks depending on if I liked the dealer. I wasn't playing for a living and mostly liveaments were just for fun. There is no "15-20% rule" when it comes to poker afaik.

I think it is necessary to tip but I don't think you should feel obligated to throw more than a buck or two unless you want to.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:16 PM   #14
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well, are you guys sayin it isn't too much to tip 5 dollars for a $150 win (300 buck pot)

can someone give me a basic guideline for how much to tip on each pot amount? i'd appreciate it. also i noticed players tip the dealer when they switch dealers, if i was up some money i usually give the dealer a dollar when he/she leaves.
It sounds, to me, that you are making a sincere effort to tip, which is commendable - seriously. My previous response was not as good at explaining how much one should tip, and I realize that now. I also feel that, since you came back asking how much to tip, you deserve a serious answer.

I always tip at least a buck, even for $10 pots. Dealers appreciate it. The amounts that players tip vary. But $1 from $10 to $100 or $150 is a good idea. $2 above $150 to $300. Above that, whatever you feel is appropriate. If you win a big pot, and the players took a long time to act, another buck or two would be good, since the extra time reduced the number of hands, etc.

When I said, "If you're concerned about tipping affecting your win rate, you're not as good as you think that you are, or should be." I was trying to say that, if you're winning a small amount, breaking even, or losing, and you're concerned that the tips that you give when you win pots are a big burden to you, you should improve your game or give it up.

Dealers deal for a living. And dealers who are good at their jobs deserve to get paid.

I encourage you to ask more questions here and to do your best to learn as much as you can when you're playing, and to only take advice, online or in person, from those people who seem to be knowledgeable and ethical.

I hope that I did a better job with this post than I did in my previous post.
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It sounds, to me, that you are making a sincere effort to tip, which is commendable - seriously. My previous response was not as good at explaining how much one should tip, and I realize that now. I also feel that, since you came back asking how much to tip, you deserve a serious answer.

I always tip at least a buck, even for $10 pots. Dealers appreciate it. The amounts that players tip vary. But $1 from $10 to $100 or $150 is a good idea. $2 above $150 to $300. Above that, whatever you feel is appropriate. If you win a big pot, and the players took a long time to act, another buck or two would be good, since the extra time reduced the number of hands, etc.

When I said, "If you're concerned about tipping affecting your win rate, you're not as good as you think that you are, or should be." I was trying to say that, if you're winning a small amount, breaking even, or losing, and you're concerned that the tips that you give when you win pots are a big burden to you, you should improve your game or give it up.

Dealers deal for a living. And dealers who are good at their jobs deserve to get paid.

I encourage you to ask more questions here and to do your best to learn as much as you can when you're playing, and to only take advice, online or in person, from those people who seem to be knowledgeable and ethical.

I hope that I did a better job with this post than I did in my previous post.
yeah, thanks for the advice. appreciate every1s help.

typically thats what i was doing, $1-2 for pots under 100 then when it got between 100-200 id do 2 bucks, but for the $300 pots i won last night i decided to give 5 dollars, i think ill just reduce it to 1 dollar for small pots, and 2 dollars for big ones.

i usually play once a week at the casino for 6-8 hours, so im by no means a pro but i'd obviously like to try to sustain a solid winning rate and make some decent side cash out of my weekend trips. so far after a month of play it hasn't really affected my winning rate, but i think ill definitely tip no more than 2 dollars now, i was tipping way to much before i was also tipping each dealer a dollar after they switched shifts which added up to about 10 dollars lol
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:49 PM   #16
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If you're concerned about tipping affecting your win rate, you're not as good as you think that you are, or should be.
That's pretty stupid considering all of my live playing poker friends are losers that play 1-2 and regularly tip $5 on any pot over $50. In fact if he even knows what a winrate is it should mean he's probably better than 99% of the players in the casino.

Are you one of those guys who thinks over $30 an hour is easy at 1-2 live? Cuz judging from you not caring about an extra $5 an hour it seems like you are, which means one of two things.... either you don't play live or.....
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That's pretty stupid considering all of my live playing poker friends are losers that play 1-2 and regularly tip $5 on any pot over $50. In fact if he even knows what a winrate is it should mean he's probably better than 99% of the players in the casino.

Are you one of those guys who thinks over $30 an hour is easy at 1-2 live? Cuz judging from you not caring about an extra $5 an hour it seems like you are, which means one of two things.... either you don't play live or.....
I do pretty well.

That is as specific as I'll get.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:59 PM   #18
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Re: cash game tipping the dealer

yeah like thats what im afraid of, that itll cut into my winrate. i mean ive only logged 30 hours so far so thats not even a sample, but i currently only make $10/hr so it was kinda botherin me that i mite have cost myself like $5 an hr which would be like $150 i missed out on.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:04 AM   #19
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Usually do $1 for profits small pots, $2 for large pots, very rarely $3. I don't tip if I just win the blinds.
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