5/10 no limit soft cap of 2500 cards are being marked. It is suspected to two players , management won’t do ****.

deck was frozen tonigh at 1:50 am and call was put into gaming. I tried to take up poker, let me tell you poker players are the scum of the scum and in la they are the worst.

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Marked cards in a poker game? Huge shocker..

Probably happens in every card room. I remember one time somebody complained about marked cards in a 2/5 game at Bellagio, they changed the deck and not even 20 minutes later I got pitched a marked ace.

If experts were marking them, you wouldn'tsee the results.

Oh, he should just give up trying to fix the problem then.

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying if the marks are amateurish enough to be spotted by an amateur, this should be pretty easy to remedy.

BTW, if we're talking about thumbnail creases just below the index (the part of the card you peel back to read), it is my opinion that these are not attempts at cheating, but rather a lack of respect for the casino's property. Every time an amateur finds a "mark", they find the same thumbnail-sized crease in the same spot, no matter what rank or suit the card is.

but GL telling a paranoid poker player that no one is trying to cheat him, when he sees this as prima facie evidence....

Nah, I've seen it a fair amount, and all the other cards that aren't aces seem to be respected.

can you not call for a,setup in Bollywood? just keep calling for them. or take your business to one of the 5 other area casinos.

And if they were really good at their craft you wouldn't notice the marks. likely just coincidence.

Every time this has been alleged I could pull a bunch of "marked" cards out of the deck in seconds.

People just bend and a's accidentally "mark" the cards. Happens a lot more in Omaha because players are squeezing the cards so hard to see all four cards but it happens in NLHE too.

Non zero chance people squeeze Aces extra hard hoping the other card is actually an ace and therefore "marked" cards could be more likely than random to be aces.

I noticed two cards in a Rio wsop 2/5 game that had the same light blue mark in the same place. Qs and Th. Random two cards, but weird for them to have the same mark.

The auto-shufflers crease the cards, and you notice it more in cards with a lot of empty space (like, for instance, an ace). This should be obvious to anyone who has played live poker for more than 10 minutes.

As has been said if they were being marked by real experts, you wouldn't notice.

It doesn't matter if the card markers are experts. Some idiots are trying to gain an advantage and are leaving a trail.

I would trust your instincts and not play when those two are around.

I saw this happen in a 40/80 LHE game at FW. Which I played very infrequently. Never saw it in 20/40 LHE game which I played very frequently.

It doesn't surprise me that you are seeing it in a 5/10 NL game. It also doesn't really surprise me that the room does not want to be bothered...

I think I posted this once, but I once observed a player rip a tiny tear on the vertical edge of a card before he folded his hand (after the flop). I assumed he was marking an Ace. I got the card a few hands later and it was like a 6 or something. When I thought back on how his face looked when he made the tear, I realized he did it because he was on tilt.

There is a likely chance to be honest what OP is describing is actually occurring. Especially in LA and at HP.

I would sit back and wait for a marked A to arrive to me and announce to the table "did anyone see me look at my cards?" "No? Well this card here is a marked ace and these guys are doing it." Then flip the card over.

You have nothing to lose.

The squeezing an Ace Theory doesn't really hold water because it would bend the card not leave a small tear or fingernail indent like an unprofessional mark would.

You're talking about people who bend up the corners like civilized adults. We're talking about squeezers.

Pay attention to how people squeeze cards and you'll see it. They hold the cards lengthwise in front of them, push their fingernails in the center of the card, pull the edge of the card up starting from the middle of the long side then move to the corner.

That's where those marks come from. Done enough times they become two creases about a half inch apart, 1-2 inches long, lengthwise. Players often blame the machines for them because they look so consistent between cards but I see them in tournaments where they have never been in a machine.

If the first card is a 7 they lose interest and just peel the corner of the second card, if it's an ace they'll squeeze the second one super slow and hard hoping their ritual will conjure another ace. It might actually be a usable tell so it's worth watching for if there's a loose squeezer at your table.

Machine marks from the Deckmate 2's are two wear lines running the length of the card the short way, or little slices on the long edge. They look like someone took scissors to them and just cut a 1/8" bit. If they stay in use the cut gets longer or one edge of it peels back.