I mean, Omaha players are going to shout and be confused regardless of how overt you are so focus on what you can control.

I have dealt, floored, and shifted some of the biggest games in the world (as high as 2k/4k for PLO.) I instruct dealers to announce the correct bet if a player bets more than pot in PLO in any game in any setting. I say this as someone who instructs dealers to never announce bet sizes in any big bet games unless asked, unless there is a special circumstance such as this. In general, dealers should say almost nothing in nosebleed games unless neccessary. This is a very specific exception.

I was taught to always correct the bet size in PLO as quickly as possible. Otherwise you run into arguments over "accepted action" and such.

2/5 PLO is big by most poker room standards but not nosebleed.

I suspect it's not laziness on the dealer's part here, just a differing opinion or room policy.

You'll see other dealers using shortcuts to speed things up. Don't worry about any of that in the beginning. Spend the extra time to do things the way you were taught in school and make sure you get it right. As you get more comfortable you can work on your speed.

Don't be afraid to ask stupid questions to other dealers while on break. There's a million little rules and gray areas between them.

When you push a pot, try to get all of the chips in front of the player but not mixed in with their stack. If you accidentally pushed to the wrong person it's MUCH easier to correct things.

I doubt it is policy. I see many dealers who stay silent and don't run their games. Some may be due to laziness, but some just don't care, others have poor English skills and are intimidated.

Back in the day, it was (a big game). You didn't say boo-- or need to!

Haven't dealt it in a long time, tho.

Also, get your pitch squared away now! It will be hard to correct later on. You'll make more money and save your joints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzny7tih8I8

[QUOTE=Reducto;53947795] Completely agree. I tell all of my new dealers accuracy is more important than speed. Over time you will figure out ways to deal your game faster. No sense being fast if the floor has to come correct mistakes every few hands.

And your floor! Yes there are good floors and bad, but your floor should be welcoming to any questions you have as you get pushed out. Early on you may not know which dealer to ask certain types of questions because you may not know how much experience they have.



Most of all, relax!! Have fun! Smile! Come in with a good attitude and it will be noticed by players and staff alike. You will quickly learn in the casino business that certain dealers will complain about everything and anything. About players, other dealers, how much they make, how the schedule girl screwed them on their vacation bid, how the manager doesn't like them, etc. Do your best to stay away from those people and you will be happier in your job.

We've been teaching some of the brushes to deal during slow hours. Here are some common mistakes/pitfalls that they need to be reminded of.

1. Don't worry about speed. Yes, I realize that this has been mentioned by other people in this thread already. New dealers hear this advice but they don't really listen to it. They want to speed things up and find shortcuts. Players want more hands, dealers want more tips, the house wants more rake, and dealing a quick and efficient game makes you look like a real professional. Just get that out of your head. Speed will come after several months of getting down the basics. Don't skip any steps.

2. Pull the preflop bets in before you put out the flop. This goes right to one of those shortcuts that you're just going to have to avoid when you're getting started. Just deal a clean game.

3. Rake as you go. Don't wait until the pot reaches $50 to put in a $5 chip. Pull aside $1 at $10, another at $20, and so on. No shortcuts.

4. Clear your hands after you do just about anything. Especially before and after you handle a player's chips, after you've been in the well, or any time you scratch your head.

5. Speak loudly and clearly. New dealers are unsure of themselves. And speaking loudly and clearly requires and conveys an amount of confidence. Speaking meekly or quietly isn't polite when you're dealing. Players need to hear and understand you.

6. Smile a lot. Make eye contact with players when speaking to them. Thank them for every toke no matter how big or small it is.

7. One of my personal preferences, though other dealers feel otherwise. Sit as high in the chair as you possibly can. Your dealer's chair has a lever to go higher or lower. Sit high enough so that your knees are pressed against the bottom of the table. Push yourself forward so that your belt buckle is pressed against the rail. Your back will thank you.

Good luck and congratulations!

That is brilliant.

The presence of the yellow $1000 chip made me think this was somewhere like the Aria, Bellagio, or Wynn that would have much bigger games.

(Apparently I half wrote this post and never posted it. Sorry.)

Couldn’t have been $5 yellow chips in California?

Last night a guy started complaining about our casino not running stud games anymore. Another guy at the table agreed with him and said stud was his favorite back 10ish years ago, and "this casino is so s***ty" that like all good things they take it away. This caused me to speak up, I said it's not that we don't run stud anymore, it's that no one wants to play stud anymore. I told them if they start an interest list and get 8+ players in the room ready to play, we will start a game. That shut them up pretty quick.

I may have posted a thread on this, but we had a guy announce 'POT' in a PLO game without putting any chips forward. Problem was he barely had $100 in front of him and it was a $2300 pot ... AND he was obstructing the view of his chips via a 'prayer' pose.

It was a pure angle and he fully admitted it after the fact. The issue was his opponent wasn't paying attention during the hand. After 2-3 minutes of tanking and some crooning necks of the other players the opponent finally asked for a count, sort of, and the Dealer spilled the beans to the ire of the angling Player ... the bet was quickly called as a 'no brainer'.

Pretty sure there's a thread on this so ... GL

All he has to do is look, and ask how much, but why bother?
The other players will jump in and violate OPTAH to help him out.

I don't think the short stack should be required to make it obvious he's short.
Dealer shouldn't be telling the players he's short stacked. All they have to do is pay attention.

Similar, just last week:

Two O/8 players are sitting at my LHE table, waiting for a game to start. Now, we have an O/8 game almost every single day, and they know this. But today is one of those days where we just can't get more than 6-7 players interested, and we know better than to start a short-handed O/8 game. These two guys start venting their frustrations about this to each other, leading to this:

P1: Looks like we're not going to get a game today....They *have* 7 names, if they start it, it will fill up (LOL this guy!)....they don't WANT to start it! They make more money spreading HE than O/8. (now convinced of this) They definitely WON'T start it, they want that money!

YTF: If that were true, we'd NEVER have an O/8 game. Right?

P1: (mouth moves, nothing comes out, brain cannot engage concepts this deep)

I'm not a cardroom professional, and I don't pay much pot limit poker, but I would think a bet would be corrected if it is announced as clearly more than the player has.

In NL holdem, if a player said "$2300" while only having $100 behind, wouldn't the dealer say something?

I'm also curious if they don't announce all-ins (or use all-in buttons if the room has them) at high stakes.

There are games where "if you build it they will come," and I'm a big fan of sharps learning to play shorthanded with partial givebacks, but midday O8 is among the least likely games to become healthy like that.

Are you missing the part where the short stack bet?

Are you missing the part where the short stack intentionally hides his stack?

He also shouldn't be announcing bets that far exceed the amount in his stack.

No, the dealer shouldn't be saying "this player is short-stacked", if he announced "all in", for example. But if he announced a bet he cannot cover, it certainly should be corrected.

this is subtle, sage advice. well played sir.

also, shout out to bolt2112 who nailed a bunch of topics for a new dealer

this thread is an amazing resource for dealers and all contributors should all be proud.

I know. If I'm dealing and he looks for the chips or seems at all curious about the bet size I will make sure the chips are made visible.

But if he has no clue his opponent has no where near a pot size
bet in front of him, should I or the other players be helping him out?

Maybe he has some big chips and he has closer to a pot size bet than I thought.

I'm not estimating his stack size and I'm not counting it down until I hear "Call" or "How much?".

Player says "Pot". Other starts to insta-muck, dealer says "Hold up, he doesn't have a pot size bet, it's about $100."

So he calls. Was the dealer right to affect the outcome of the hand?

How about the short stack does have some big chips and wins... another dealer caused mess.