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02-22-2018 , 05:12 AM
Before you spread the flop, square up the cards first by dragging them towards you on their long edge, with your index fingertip on the top edge.

Then turn them up. As your thumb spreads the cards, use that index finger to draw a line on the felt! The three cards come out straight.

one of my prouder moments was starting a new job, and one of my new co-workers asking me to show him how I spread the flop. His buddy started to rib him, "You still don't know how to spread a flop?"

"Not like this guy! Have you seen HIM do it???"
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02-22-2018 , 05:16 AM
YTF: (greets players) What's up, gang?

PLAYER: It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!

YTF: (grins)

PLAYER: Won't you be my neighbor?

YTF: (fake grins--it was funny once)

PLAYER: (is actually awaiting an answer to his question)

Spoiler:
YTF: I have always wanted to have a neighbor, just like you!

PLAYER: (Is pleased with the outcome of all this.)
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02-22-2018 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Before you spread the flop, square up the cards first by dragging them towards you on their long edge, with your index fingertip on the top edge.

Then turn them up. As your thumb spreads the cards, use that index finger to draw a line on the felt! The three cards come out straight.
Basically this.

It took around 6 months and asking multiple people until someone finally told me something that clicked. The biggest issue for me was not knowing how to turn the cards from face down to face up in my hand, and someone told me to "cup them" which kind of stuck. Just turn them up with your thumb, guided by your index finger on top, and catch/readjust them with your other 3 fingers acting as a cup before spreading them.
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02-22-2018 , 02:47 PM
We've got a few travelling dealers in town for a big regional tourney we're hosting this weekend. We had a satellite event last night, about 200 players. Our excellent TD told me about this exchange he had with an out-of-town dealer:

DEALER: I've never seen anything like this!

TD: What do you mean?

DEALER: If we had a tournament this big at the room where I work, (points to TD) there would be four of you guys!
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02-23-2018 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Motierre
Any tips on dealing the flop all at once without having to adjust the cards after? Maybe 1 in 30 flops I deal will be nicely aligned without needing any adjustment, but I see other dealers doing it much more often.
Put the flop out slower.

If that doesn't work, just practice until you get it.

I'm pretty OCD and need to put out a nice flop.

edit:

What YTF said.
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02-23-2018 , 11:33 AM
When calling hands, let's say player holds 56 of diamonds, and the board reads Ad,4d,Jd,x,x do you say "Ace high flush" or "6 high flush"?

Because I don't know any dealer that says Ace high flush in that scenario, even though it technically is an Ace high flush.

Just a discussion I had with someone tonight...
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02-23-2018 , 11:48 AM
I would generally advocate just saying "flush". If multiple flushes get tabled, or a player is straining to try to make out the hole cards of another player across the table, then go to "flush with the 6". "6 high flush" is also fine with most tables and players, though as you note technically inaccurate which is why I would say the former instead.

If there's a 4 card flush on board, I might just start with "flush with the 6".

I don't think I would ever announce "A hi flush" in that situation unless it were somehow appropriate, and I can't think of a time when it would be offhand. Maybe in double boards or hi-low or some such, but even then I don't think it makes sense. Perhaps only if it's being beaten by a straight flush somewhere else.

Last edited by dinesh; 02-23-2018 at 11:53 AM.
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02-23-2018 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dinesh
I would generally advocate just saying "flush". If multiple flushes get tabled, or a player is straining to try to make out the hole cards of another player across the table, then go to "flush with the 6". "6 high flush" is also fine with most tables and players, though as you note technically inaccurate which is why I would say the former instead.

If there's a 4 card flush on board, I might just start with "flush with the 6".
I generally just say "flush" if they have a flush, if multiple flushes then I say it according to their hole cards.

While technically inaccurate, I don't know a single other dealer who doesn't do it this way.

4 card flush on board, I still say it according to their hole card.
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02-23-2018 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dinesh
I would generally advocate just saying "flush". If multiple flushes get tabled, or a player is straining to try to make out the hole cards of another player across the table, then go to "flush with the 6".
This.

"Flush" or "Flush with the 6".
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02-23-2018 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CupOfSalt
When calling hands, let's say player holds 56 of diamonds, and the board reads Ad,4d,Jd,x,x do you say "Ace high flush" or "6 high flush"?
I will say "she has a flush" as I push up the cards that play.
If someone else shows a flush I will say "that's a bigger flush"
while motioning to the bigger flush and muck the smaller flush.
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02-23-2018 , 12:58 PM
I'm sure there's a reason, but why is it so important to muck losers so quickly? I was going to add a "it's not like xxxxxxx can happen" but I'm sure there are a million valid reasons that make a ton of sense.
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02-23-2018 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CupOfSalt
When calling hands, let's say player holds 56 of diamonds, and the board reads Ad,4d,Jd,x,x do you say "Ace high flush" or "6 high flush"?

Because I don't know any dealer that says Ace high flush in that scenario, even though it technically is an Ace high flush.

Just a discussion I had with someone tonight...
I would announce that as flush with the six. I hate when people call that a six High flush...... and if I hear someone refer to a five high flush I point out that such a hand is not possible.
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02-23-2018 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen
I'm sure there's a reason, but why is it so important to muck losers so quickly? I was going to add a "it's not like xxxxxxx can happen" but I'm sure there are a million valid reasons that make a ton of sense.
are you talking about tabled losers or folded losers.

Mucking the tabled losers quickly means you can more quickly get to the next step and thereafter get to the next hand ...

if you mean folded losers .... getting them in the muck cuts down on all the issues that arise when someone reaches out and grabs them.
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02-23-2018 , 01:22 PM
Tabled losers.
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02-23-2018 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen
Tabled losers.
It let's the player know that he is not winning the pot. And that he should speak up if I am making a mistake.
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02-23-2018 , 02:42 PM
Tabled losers (at showdown) shouldn’t be mucked imo, just turned face down.


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02-23-2018 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by c2d2
Tabled losers shouldn’t be mucked imo, just turned face down.


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Of course they get mucked lol
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02-23-2018 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CupOfSalt
Of course they get mucked lol


When the pot is pushed, button is moved, and rake is dropped, sure.


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02-23-2018 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by c2d2
When the pot is pushed, button is moved, and rake is dropped, sure.


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No, sir.
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02-23-2018 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by c2d2
Tabled losers (at showdown) shouldn’t be mucked imo, just turned face down.
How long you gonna leave them there face down?
Push the pot and the ask everyone to look one last time to make sure they're not folding a winner?

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Originally Posted by c2d2
When the pot is pushed, button is moved, and rake is dropped, sure.
And then you're gonna take the pot from the guy stacking chips?
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02-23-2018 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
How long you gonna leave them there face down?

Push the pot and the ask everyone to look one last time to make sure they're not folding a winner?

Of course not. I would never ask anyone to look again.

Turning tabled non-winners at showdown face down is how I was trained and there’s a lot of reasons to do it this way and not one I can think of to not do it this way.

To be clear I’m talking about tabled hands at showdown. Not folded or non tabled hands. Those should obv be mucked asap.


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02-23-2018 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by c2d2
Of course not. I would never ask anyone to look again.

Turning tabled non-winners at showdown face down is how I was trained and there’s a lot of reasons to do it this way and not one I can think of to not do it this way.

To be clear I’m talking about tabled hands at showdown. Not folded or non tabled hands. Those should obv be mucked asap.


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You were trained incorrectly then...
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02-23-2018 , 02:54 PM
I don;t think it much matters if you turn it down and leave it unmucked from a game integrity standpoint. The cards were tabled ... they are identifiable whether they are mucked or not..... but I see no value to delaying by making the mucking process a separate act.
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02-23-2018 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CupOfSalt
You were trained incorrectly then...


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02-23-2018 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
I don;t think it much matters if you turn it down and leave it unmucked from a game integrity standpoint. The cards were tabled ... they are identifiable whether they are mucked or not..... but I see no value to delaying by making the mucking process a separate act.


You are right. I clean up the board and those cards at the same time. I don’t muck them separately.


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