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09-10-2011 , 04:43 PM
YTF should have a better idea since he dealt in NH, but the idea is that these rooms have the fig leaf that they are nothing different than the Catholic church running bingo nights. The law was originally written assuming that everyone involved was a volunteer donating their time to the worthy cause. Therefore, the "volunteer" shouldn't be pocketing any money "donated" in the game to the charity.

What probably happened is that a lawyer found a loophole that allowed a third party to collect money from the players and pass it on to the volunteers.
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09-10-2011 , 05:02 PM
There's absolutely nothing like that going on in NH.

I think 35% or so of the revenue has to go to a charity, the operator uses the rest to pay for overhead (including labor) and the rest is profit.

Dealers pool their tokes. I don't know if that's required by law. More likely, they do it that way because Foxwoods does is that way, and everything they know about poker, they learned from (gulp!) Foxwoods.

(They were surprised to learn that west of Connecticut, Foxwoods poker room is a laughing stock.)
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09-10-2011 , 05:46 PM
Still find it hard to beleive that peope WANT to deal in places other than Oklahoma.

I get told all the time that ono ne else would want to come here to deal but I'm telling, it's heaven compared to some of the other places I read about.
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09-10-2011 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dealer-Guy
Still find it hard to beleive that peope WANT to deal in places other than Oklahoma.

I get told all the time that ono ne else would want to come here to deal but I'm telling, it's heaven compared to some of the other places I read about.
But then when you aren't dealing you are still in Oklahoma. The thing with Southern California is it is hard to work there, but then when you aren't working you are in Southern California.
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09-10-2011 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
But then when you aren't dealing you are still in Oklahoma. The thing with Southern California is it is hard to work there, but then when you aren't working you are in Southern California.
I live in Texas.
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09-10-2011 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dealer-Guy
Still find it hard to beleive that peope WANT to deal in places other than Oklahoma.

I get told all the time that ono ne else would want to come here to deal but I'm telling, it's heaven compared to some of the other places I read about.
I still find it hard to believe that anyone wants to be in Oklahoma.
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09-10-2011 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
I still find it hard to believe that anyone wants to be in Oklahoma.
I don't think I would want to live in Oklahoma OR Texas, let alone work there.
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09-10-2011 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by simonphoenix
I don't think I would want to live in Oklahoma OR Texas, let alone work there.
If Texas would ever get around to legalizing casinos, I would never leave the state.
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09-10-2011 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by txpokerguy41
If Texas would ever get around to legalizing casinos, I would never leave the state.
Well, we are enjoying slightly cooler weather right now. It's 9:40 in he evening and only 83 degrees.

Hell freezing over can't be too far behind.
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09-10-2011 , 10:42 PM
I'll chime in this for the Oklahoma dealers (mostly riverwind, but I've played at Winstar a few times).. I recently went to San Francisco and went down to lucky chances. Floor was nice, but the dealers were some of the grumpiest, meanest SOBs I've ever seen. If one of the grouchier ones came to work here, they people like me would stop tipping them.
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09-11-2011 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RR
The thing with Southern California is it is hard to work there, but then when you aren't working you are in Southern California.
You say this like it's a good thing?
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09-11-2011 , 02:41 PM
only if you like awesome weather and beautiful, scantily clad women
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10-20-2011 , 02:29 PM
Does how fast you spin the cards and how hard you throw the cards effect your Hands Dealt per Hour?

I was playing at my local water hole and 3 out of 4 dealers were slamming the cards out. One guy was spinning them. I understand dealing can be boring, but you risk overturning cards (no shock that there were 3 or 4 overturned cards in the 3 hours I was playing - especially in the 1&10 seats) when dealers throw them so quickly and with such force.

One dealer even made a comment that "It turned over, but I am dealing 40 hands an hour." I am I being picky? I think when an "A" especially gets exposed pre-flop it can effect some of the fishier players attitudes. (OMG I would have had an ace and I don't now!)
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10-20-2011 , 03:01 PM
my experience that the faster I throw them the faster players think I deal ....and the fewer cards I actually expose.

In reality pitching cards is not where speed of the game comes from (other than extremely slow dealing). Speed of the game comes from running the game fast and not wasting time in between hands. I am not the fastest when it comes to pitching cards .... but if you time it and compare it to the dealers who pitch faster ... how much is the difference in time in reality? If they were to finish dealing a hand 2 full seconds faster than me (and I doubt very much is that much time) if they were able to get out 60 hands in na hour they would getting an extra two minutes worth of hands over me in an hour (which at that rate is basically 2 hands per hour just from the pitch alone). So these fast dealers making extreme assumptions of 2 seconds a hand faster on the pitch and getting out 60 hands an hour really are not getting out a lot more hands based on that speed. Assuming half hour downs you are talking about one extra hand per down
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10-20-2011 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nddst
Does how fast you spin the cards and how hard you throw the cards effect your Hands Dealt per Hour?
So very very very slightly that it really doesn't matter if you throw them out at rocket speed or normal speed.
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10-20-2011 , 05:57 PM
You guys are forgetting the monkey see monkey do aspect. The players tend to play faster when the cards are whizzing around.

I used to deal with one girl who pitched at a dizzying clip. It was common for players to take a break during her down for two reasons:

--she was good for a floor call every down or so, usually a burn-and-turn;
--some players didn't like feeling rushed. She wasn't constantly slapping the table saying, "Come on, you're turn, whatcha gonna do?", she shut up and dealt, but her whirling dervish frenzy act made the players feel like they needed to try to keep up with her.

***

On my last week as a PT/Temp dealer (got bumped to FT!), I had three days off in a row. You know what sentence I never said nor thought in the course of those three days? "I'm sorry, did you say something?"

I come back to work, and had to say it three times to three different players in my first FIFTEEN MINUTES back. All three had thrown in a single chip, and couldn't understand why I would announce "Call!" when they did it.

I concede that a pre-iPod childhood dominated by loud music via headphones and car stereos has damaged my hearing some, but I have little problem hearing people who AREN'T playing poker.
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10-20-2011 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
You guys are forgetting the monkey see monkey do aspect. The players tend to play faster when the cards are whizzing around.

I used to deal with one girl who pitched at a dizzying clip. It was common for players to take a break during her down for two reasons:

--she was good for a floor call every down or so, usually a burn-and-turn;
--some players didn't like feeling rushed. She wasn't constantly slapping the table saying, "Come on, you're turn, whatcha gonna do?", she shut up and dealt, but her whirling dervish frenzy act made the players feel like they needed to try to keep up with her.

***

On my last week as a PT/Temp dealer (got bumped to FT!), I had three days off in a row. You know what sentence I never said nor thought in the course of those three days? "I'm sorry, did you say something?"

I come back to work, and had to say it three times to three different players in my first FIFTEEN MINUTES back. All three had thrown in a single chip, and couldn't understand why I would announce "Call!" when they did it.

I concede that a pre-iPod childhood dominated by loud music via headphones and car stereos has damaged my hearing some, but I have little problem hearing people who AREN'T playing poker.
There is something else going on here. When someone talks there are also visual clues to what they are saying. At the poker table there are no visual clues.
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10-20-2011 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
There is something else going on here. When someone talks there are also visual clues to what they are saying. At the poker table there are no visual clues.
Its also a lack of other audio cues. One word announcements are harder to understand. When a player speaks in complete sentences the context lets you fill in the words that you may not hear clearly. When they speak with a single word there is no context to help you fill in the words.
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10-20-2011 , 07:47 PM
Any of the casino employees hearing rumors about the current online situation and your companys intrest or lack there of to online pokah?
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10-20-2011 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by acecatcher26
Any of the casino employees hearing rumors about the current online situation and your companys intrest or lack there of to online pokah?
Nothing that you can't already read about online.
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10-21-2011 , 12:18 AM
Something refreshing happened today. A woman who had never played in our room before was playing 2/5. She knows how to play, she is just new to our room. She called a bet on the river when HU and the other player folded his bluff telling her she didn't have to show. I killed his hand and pushed her the pot as the player next to her told her she should have made him show his hand.

"Why? I got what I wanted, I won the pot."
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10-21-2011 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dealer-Guy
Something refreshing happened today. A woman who had never played in our room before was playing 2/5. She knows how to play, she is just new to our room. She called a bet on the river when HU and the other player folded his bluff telling her she didn't have to show. I killed his hand and pushed her the pot as the player next to her told her she should have made him show his hand.

"Why? I got what I wanted, I won the pot."
Smart lady. You should never make someone show if you win the pot!

SN: That player was trying to satisfy their own curiosity.
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10-21-2011 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Beach Babe
Smart lady. You should never make someone show if you win the pot!
Tried to educate a gentleman on how this was allowed but was poor etiquette, and 5 out of the 6 players at my table didn't understand how it could be bad. Blew my mind.
I never try to educate players on strategy, but I do take a stance when it comes to etiquette. As I think everyone should.
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10-21-2011 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FeltLegend
I never try to educate players on strategy, but I do take a stance when it comes to etiquette. As I think everyone should.
Most of the time you're wasting your breath. You either get it or you don't.
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10-21-2011 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FeltLegend
Tried to educate a gentleman on how this was allowed.
In my room, a winner must be shown - both cards, in fact. I have not had to deal with a case where someone mucked and the winner was adamant about not showing or also mucks his cards in an unretrievable fashion. I hope not to but this post probably means it will happen tonight...

Oh, and since this thread was bumped, allow me a quick brag: I dealt the Bad Beat in my room a few weeks ago. Quad Aces over quad sixes. The table split $360k. It was a pretty good night for me too...
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