There's a rule in baseball that says if a pitcher throws 4 balls, that it's a walk and the batter gets to take first base. That doesn't mean that every time a pitcher walks the batter that the pitcher "broke a rule".

Breaking a rule in poker is a phrase I save for actual cheating. If a player shows his cards to his neighbor and then the two of them have a discussion about those cards while the hand is still in play, then that's a rule violation and I'll stop it immediately, including calling the floor if I think it's merited.

And FWIW, if you're at my table, I'll figure out that you have a bug up your *** by the third or fourth instance of SOSA and I'll start showing the cards without you asking. But at the next table I go to, I'm back to mucking them unless some other guy asks to see them.

Please stop doing this.

I'm the guy pushing you, left to wonder why he expects me to turn them up when not asked to.

Just discovered my new mantra. It was in a piece about Flat Earthers, but I'm sure it will run through my brain at least once a down for the rest of my career:

"You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into."

Now, when folks opine about rigged shufflers, or express shock that an opponent didn't fold to their $2 raise, or spout off about any other delusions to which they cling--I can finally take comfort in the knowledge that they WANT that delusion. They *need* it. They prefer it, over recognizing reality.

DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?

Unraised prefop, flop comes AKQ. One player bets. next raises, others fold, bettor reraises, and they end up all in. Both have J10 for the nuts and a chop. One player uses that hand as proof that the house rigs the shuffler so that action flops come that makes large pots so the house gets max rake while the players win nothing. Other players attempt to dissuade him, but to no avail.

Then why are you here dummy?

I really like this quote

Casino I was trained at said not to say how many players to the flop. Casino I’m at now doesn’t care. I’d like to know what the “rules” actually are. Is it different for cash and tournaments?

The "rules" are whatever your room tells you.

That said...

Say how many players.

Yeah I've never heard of not saying how many players.

Going to the Flop I think it's very good to say how many are still in the hand. It reduces the chance of the inevitable question coming once the Board is put out, which slows the game down. Although it 'should' assist the players to calculate the pot size it also may alert them to a player or two that they didn't know were still in the hand.

Going to the Turn/River I see slightly differently, but most Dealers will continue to indicate until it's HU.

I also think it's good for the Dealer since there's that brief moment where you say "4 to the Turn" and then only remember pulling in 3 bets! GL

The only times I have heard that were for a really big game (don't say anything kind of game) or for a heads up gMe (of course there are 2 players)

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I train dealers to announce how many players before bringing the flop only. They do not need to announce it after that. Which brings up an interesting thing about human nature. Every single training class I have ever had goes the same way. I teach them to say it preflop and tell them that is the only time you need to announce it. Inevitably, every single person will announce it before every street. I don't correct them because 1- it's not hurting anything, 2- it's helping them calculate the pot, 3- it's helping them keep track of how many ppl they need action from and potentially causing less mistakes.

I was taught to announce how many to the flop and after that only when the number of players changes.

I guess I teach to announce when it gets to heads up as well...

This is how I was taught as well.

Please say it. It's as simple as "3 players."

This.

I deserved that.

I announce on 4th/5th street when the number of players in the hand changes. Say someone folds and it goes from 4 players to 3 on the turn, I will say "3 players to the turn."

The standard I always used was the dealer should announce the number of players unless it was a game that the dealer was not to speak in.

This old story of mine was hit at the table this week, so I'll post it here, in case you guys might like it. I'm sure I've posted it before, years ago, but don't feel like searching--I know that it's been so long since I've even *thought* about this story that it felt fresh to ME this time, and I enjoyed it all over again!

Eight players see a flop for 2-3 bets. The BB has done nothing so far this hand but make crying calls, he's got a bad hand and he knows it. As I'm pulling in the preflop bets, he announces, "You get 40% of this pot, YTF, if you bring this stinker home!"

Eyebrows went up. I giggled a little, and explained, "I've got a great '40%' story, you just reminded me of it. I'll tell it to you after the hand."

He folded first chance he could after the flop didn't help, I didn't get the huge toke...but now everyone wants to hear the story, so I told it:

Like I said, the players at my table really got a kick out of that one. One even mentioned it to me a few days later, how much fun he has had re-telling it to people.

BTW, After Jay told us that story, we made sure to ask that question to every applicant we interviewed to write tickets. I'd say <10% of them could figure it out.

I know people are dumb but 90%+? That's bad.

Omaha jackpot just hit in my room

Looks like I won't be working overtime

I'm at 95+% success rate at having players ask me how many people are in the hand every time I don't announce it, which I only miss like one time every couple months from something like being distracted explaining something to the floor.

It's like they are just doing it to point out that I didn't do it, like some OCD that has to flick the light switch three times or something.