I'm interested in how jackpots are handled in various rooms.

Does your DC/RC/floorstaff/Management act to include the dealer of a jackpot when the payouts are made?

Does anyone work in a room where poker dealers are required to pay a percentage of any jackpot tips to the house?

--Never seen the staff "act to include the dealer of a jackpot". There's no need to, you'll do fine. You'll only be disappointed if you expect too much.

--Never seen the room require the dealer tip out jackpot tokes, but again, perhaps my expectations differ from yours (I'm already happy to share with the staff who made the payout happen, they don't need to require me to do anything).

I manage a smaller room so YMMV, but I always let the dealer pay out the jackpot for bad beats. If they are in the box I will have a break dealer or dual rate tap them out to get it done.

For bad beat jackpots my experience has been the dealer is not pushed and is present for the payouts.

For smaller promotions most places I have worked the dealer was involved in the payout and would be skipped in the push if there was a pending payout but sometimes that doesn't work such as a high hand promotion where the dealer who dealt the hand has pushed on before the end of the high hand period (not pushing doesn't make much sense because that hand may not be the winner anyway).

One room I used to play at went to a horrible system for the dealers. They stopped paying the promotions in the poker room (the result of allegations of theft). They gave the player a printed voucher which they need to take to the main cage to get paid..... so typically they go get there money on the way out of the casino.

My main casino trained the Dealers on the BBJ paperwork so they can handle it themselves (lazy Floors!!) and the payouts are at the table ... but maybe not right away. I assume the hope is that the players will remember that the game is shut down to tidy things up and the Dealer is helping the process.

HH promos 'are' handled by the Floor and typically paid out within 20 minutes of the roll over depending on the pressure from the winner. GL

I thought this went without saying, but now that it has been brought up, I was clearly wrong. Glad you mentioned this.

I've never dealt in a room where jackpot tips are handled differently from regular tips. I've never been in the room when a bad beat was dealt so I don't really know how they're handled, but I certainly hope the dealer would be allowed to stay at that table until it's paid out.

My current room has no standard regarding the dealer, except that the dealer is always pushed as soon as the jackpot is verified by checking the deck etc. Some floors try to get the DC to assist getting the dealer back to the table to be present for payouts. Monday I was at the poker desk when a floor was asking the DC where to find a dealer because they were going to do the payout and the DC was completely uninterested in helping - the floor insisted that surely there were dealers on break who could push in.

Some floors do not try and if a dealer is to be tipped the players have to actively search through the casino.

And YTF - it's not a matter of not sharing the wealth. The 15% goes to the casino for them to use as part of the floor's income on their paychecks. It's not included in the jackpot tips the floors get a share of - it's just grouped with the daily dealer 15% drop that is part of floor and supervisor pay. In order to actually tip a specific floor or chip runner etc, I pay any tips out of my share after I've dropped the 15% to the house.

I've never heard of this practice and wondered if anyone else had.

Reducto - there've been requests made to management to let the dealer stay until the jackpot was paid but they've been denied. I've pushed into tables where a jackpot has been dealt and had players tell me how frustrated they were that no floor could tell them how to find the dealer. The rest of us dealers have then gone into search mode - I don't know 'Vivian' but I know a dealer who might and we all form a chain to try to let Vivian know there are players so gracious they're searching for her to tip her.

I haven't dealt a jackpot since February - and on that occasion my DC came outside searching for me, and went out of his way to make sure I was at the table. I didn't realize at that time that I was double lucky that day - as I've since seen so many of my coworkers have been stiffed by their own coworkers, in effect. Frustratingly weird.

We pool (per pay period, not daily or by shift) and it's 100% dealers only. There is no effort to keep a dealer at the table. Anecdotal evidence suggests when the same dealer is still there that the chances of getting stiffed drop pretty dramatically.

There are a lot of regs in this room, and occasionally if they hit big they'll arrange to pay directly to the dealer outside work. Against company policy and if you do it your colleagues will know you're a scumbag (there is approximately 0% chance this news won't travel) so don't be surprised when no one will swap shifts or do you any favours.

Pool for dealers only is an interesting arrangement, and seems like it could be positive. But t seems strange again that your room won't make the rotation adjustment around the jackpot table to help maximize the generosity of the players.

Just to be clear, I'd never want to shut the floors out -they deserve to share in the unexpected happy time bonus - it's just that in my experience, managers and floors are almost always separately tipped by winners as well, these are pooled and paid out with some kind of points guide, as in floors get a bigger share than chip runners etc. But dealers are not included in this so I don't get why management thinks it's fair to also take a piece of the dealer tips.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around jackpots as I come from overseas where badbeat jackpots just didn't exist. To be fair, tipping in general was less common but wages were far superior to the minimum wage deal here.

There are jurisdictions where floors are not allowed to be tipped by staff or players(Atlantic City).

Illinois

My local room.

Much better system where floors aren't allowed to be tipped.

I'm auditioning for a dealing positing next week and i'm a little confused as to how you announce low hands. i can read them just fine i'm just not sure how to announce them.

lets say in Omaha hi lo do you announce the lowest 2 cards in the persons hand? or do you just announce "7 6 5 3 2" do you announce the highest low cards in their hand? if someone could give me an example i would really appreciate it

everything i'm finding online strictly concerns reading them not announcing them.

"He's playing five three for low."
While pushing out the three board cards that play.

You would announce "seven, six low". You use the highest card first. Generally if you see the best low hand is a 6432A for example and no one else has a six low, you would just have to announce "six low". You only need to announce what that player is using to win.

Another example would be Player A has 7542A and Player B has 7543A. You would have to announce "seven, five, four, two". Start with the highest card and keep going until you get to what makes it the winner.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I've always been taught and taught others.

I'm not a dealer, but I have played a lot of O8, and this is what dealers usually do. IMO it makes more sense than saying the winner has a 7 6 low when the loser may also have a 7 6 low.

This is an area where "what you're taught" vs. "what you actually do in real life" differ.

In real life, you'll say "Ace Three" and get to the next hand.

This is technicall correct but not practical. If you do this players will be confused. I do as the other post suggested. "3 5 for a low" or "live 5".

While all are correct, no one has made this very important distinction:

Just announce the two hole cards he is playing: "Six-three."

Exceptions:

--if he has the nut low, just say "nut low"". Don't say "ace-deuce", even tho it is, because O/8 players love to say "nut low" when they get one, and they will leap at the chance to correct you.

--if he has a wheel, just say "wheel". Don't say "nut low", even tho it is, because O/8 players love to say "wheel" when they get one, and they will leap at the chance to correct you.

--tricky one: when there are more than three low cards on board, players will table hands where one of their whole cards is paired on the board. Example, board is 98642. If someone tables A2, he has a low, using the 864 from the board. Don't say "A2", it confuses the hoopleheads. Just say "live ace". Anyone else who turns up A8, A6, or A4 also has a "live ace", and has the same five-card low, 86421.

Usually, someone with two cards that did NOT pair the board can beat a "live" anything, as in this case, as all the "live" hands are playing the 8. Just make sure the unpaired cards can beat the board! If the board is 96542, then a "live trey" would beat an A7. DUCY?

pro tip: Never say "five-three" because it sounds like "live three". Say "3-5", instead.

The only time I've said or really heard dealers name a hand by saying "7 low" or "6 low" as opposed to "ace three" and such is when there are 3 or 4 or 5 low cards on the board and people get confused about "live ace" vs whatever else is out there.

I pretty much announce it as YTF suggests apart from not leading with the 5, which had never occurred to me. If one of them has a live card and it's not really obvious who the winner is I'll say "live 5 for an 8-7 low" or something like that.

I once put out a board of 87654 rainbow (not in that order), one player had AQ76, the other had KT64. It took me a second to convince everyone that they had identical hands.

Huh? Doesn't one play his A 6 for a low of 7654A and the other plays his 46 for a low of 87654?