Since they have both shown their hand, there's really no point to back up the cards. I'd say hand is over as is. Push the pot to the best hand and move on. Action offered and accepted type of thing. Neither player tried stopping the dealer from running out the board. It's just way too late.

I hate saying this, but... This is a spot where I might actually be ok with giving every one their money back, but the 2 players involved would really have to be both happy with that and I would rather not do it. I only say this because they weren't allowed to play the hand out like they normally would which turned it from a poker game into a crap shoot.

**puts shield up to block the hate bullets coming**

I think the first thing you have to do is figure out what it is that did happen .....

And I think you are going to have to be there to assess the claims being being made .... I just don't think this one can get sorted out long distance.

I take it that room does not use allin buttons?

No

For accepted action, is it like just a $150 showdown between the two players or accepted for allin?

Both players bet 150 then let the dealer run the board out and turned up their cards. Action offered and accepted, nobody is all in, just the 150s are in play.

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Wait a second......for it to bed action offered and accepted in this case both players need to be on the same page here.

If one player thought (the same as the dealer) that there was an all-in and a call how could this be action offered and accepted at $150.

But its not clear to me what the players are saying .....

This is what I meant. And it's offered and accepted once they both show their cards.

I think what happened (obviously I wasn't there so idk) is that once the dealer ran the board out, it made player A believe that player B must've been allin and that is why he showed his hand. Once player B also showed his hand it is as though he was "accepting" the fact that the hand is over.

Of course, hearing the explanation given by the players could change everything....

Well we only have the OP to go on which says that player B CHANGED his story to say he was all in. He may have seen he won the hand and wanted to get paid off on his whole stack. Seems like an angle and a freeroll attempt to me.

The 150 is going to stand.

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We are told that B changed his story but we aren't told what his story was to begin with or in what way it was changed. Just that it was changed.

We are told Player A is asking "what happened" which suggests that he didn;t think it was all-in and called ..... but that is not consistent with his watching the board get run out. So we have no idea what they were thinking. So once again I think the floor guy at the scene hearing them, hearing the evolution of the stories, maybe having some knowledge of the players is in a better spot tofiugure this out then we are.

This brings me back to the first thing that I said about this situation .... First we have to figure out what it is that actually happened before we can make any kind of ruling.

Sigh... I got A and B mixed up

According to the OP, it was changed TO all in.

If the dealer thought he heard all in, then presumably he ran the board out relatively quickly. This could explain why they watched the board get run out without speaking up.

You're right though, the floor in the scene is much more qualified to make this ruling than we are because he gets to hear from everyone. But we only have the facts as presented itt. Those reflect the story changing to all in.

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From what I understand, B went from confused to possibly angling and saying "oh yeah I said allin" to "oh no that's right I just said $150"... Somehow other players (possibly friends?) went from "yeah he said allin!" to something like "oh I don't know" or "oh yeah he may have said $150"

I'd still say the $150's go in and that's it. push to the winner.

Take another look..

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I'm okay with just ending this hand at $150 each and moving on. The players involved can't even get their stories straight. Next hand.

Spaced out dude in 2/5. Mostly seems okay, except for occasional episodes like this...

Dude bets $75. Gets raised to $225. The raise is eight greens and five reds, directly across the table from him. I announce "Raised to $225 total."

Dude puts out two stacks of red.

"The bet is $225, twenty-five more."

Dude looks perplexed and tosses a red chip.

"Twenty more to make $225."

Dude seems to be collecting the right bet, then tosses one more red.

"Fifteen more."

Dude looks confused, throws out one more red.

"Ten more."

One more.

"Five more."

Aaaand, finally.

I had him last week. I sit down and he has a huge stack. Get him colored up so there is room on the table.

He announces $81. (Not valid on our $2 $5 game) and puts out $45. I ask did you say $81. He says yeah. I said it will be $80. He says okay and takes back $5. I say thats only forty and he is lost. Looks at it again and says 81. I get his bet straight he wins we move on.

He gets into another pot. His opponent bets $150. He cuts out $400 in green I announce raise and he says "call". He didn't want to raise he thinks 16 green chips is equal to $150.



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Yowza. And yeah, he had to be reminded a few times that the whites didn't play.

Tho honestly, I sometimes brainfart on chips. I'll read $15 as $30 or $40 as $20, or $7 as $11 (two of one, one of the other).

But how do you confuse four piles of green? "Well, two of these are $75, so one is $37.50... I call!"

Sure but after its pointed out you can figure it out.

This guy is looking at me like I'm nuts because I'm telling him he put out $400.

Different guy, same table.

"Three to the flop."

Checks to the button.

"Action's on you."

"Checked to me?"

"Yes."

"Heads up?"

"Three-handed."

"Who's in the hand?"

I indicate the players, whose cards are visible, with no bets in front of them.

"They checked?"

"That's why action is on you."

I need to watch my snark. It doesn't go over well.

I used to do that when I dealt tournaments. I would sometimes see 150 as 225 and vice versa.

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Man, ain't that the truth. I regularly stop action as a player to point out when a player has called behind a raise or in a situation where there has been an overlooked button straddle. If nothing else, the dealer begins paying closer attention the rest of the down.

Random discussion of the night... Would you rather have a fast and sloppy dealer or a slow (old) dealer that rarely makes any huge errors

Depends how bad the errors are. I can't stand slow dealers, but when I went on a cruise, a few of the faster dealers would "accidentally" put the pot in the chip tray after a hand was done since they were mostly pit dealers. Then the winner of the pot and the dealer would have to guesstimate how much was in the pot.

wtf man. I'm old and faster with no errors than 90% of the dealers out there. Grey as hell.