Have never done this, but at least once a week I get distracted while putting out a flop that I get anxious that I peeled 4 cards. The best part is I never check, just lay them out and pray.

Did anyone notice?

I put out 6th street once...I got distracted and didn't drop the deck then hurriedly burned and turned 😨

I bring sixth street at least once a month. It's always in a heads up pot where players act really fast and I'm trying to keep up with them. Bet,call, bet,call, bet,call by reflex i tend to bring another card after the last call.

ytf, why is the waitress carding anybody? is your casino 18+ to play and also serves alcohol or something?

Yup.

While this may be true, many casinos across the country also employ the "every employee is responsible" method for carding potentially underage patrons. I've been carded by table game dealers, supervisors, security guards, cashiers, and cocktail waitresses many times. Never by a poker dealer though.

I've set my deck down after 4th more than once. I usually notice it and wait for action to be complete before calling floor, once I had just done a fill and was trying to organize my tray and say "Ok, showdown!" The player respond with "Ummm, there's still another card." ..."Oh, floor!"

Thankfully I was always thought to never mix the stub/burns/muck. So I just pick the deck back up and move on.

The waitress would be carding because individual casino employees are personally responsible for following the law. When I worked in this business I would often card people when I came on shift because the person I was replacing wold tell me they did not see the ID. Typically I wold not ask for the ID if someone I was relieving told me the had seen the ID, but you cannot assume that someone was previously IDed just because they should have been.

oh wow, this is totally foreign and counter-intuitive to me i guess. im 21 and have never been carded at foxwoods or mohegan and have never even seen anybody carded at the table or when getting a drink, including the times ive played with people who don't even sign in with a players card


i cant imagine a waitress would be incentivized to card anybody given that she basically works for tips and carding people sometimes offends them. plus, if someone is found to be underage, 99% of the attention is going to be on the fact that they were PLAYING illegally, not the fact that they ordered a beer at the table

In some places (maybe most places), if a waitress serves alcohol to an underage person, the waitress could get in big trouble, not just the casino. It is the responsibility of the waitress to make sure she's not serving to somebody that's underage. For most, keeping their job and staying out of jail is incentive enough. Yes, it's an inconvenience, but from her point of view, it's better to be safe than sorry.

There were a few times that I've played at the Borgata where I would see the same guy get carded just about every 30 minutes (waitress, floor, security, etc). It got to the point where he just kept his ID out rather than put it away since it was happening so much. Again, it's kind of a pain, but the casino staff would get in more trouble than he would if he turned out to be underage and somebody from gaming or law enforcement noticed.

Heard a story once that a couple of teens lost a few dimes of Daddy's money at a blackjack table in Vegas, and Daddy went to the Gaming Commission wanting to know why a NV licensee was booking action to kids. Gaming fined the casino some staggering number, like $50k-100k, multiplied by all the employees who interacted with those two kids and didn't card them. There were like 28 dealers, waitresses, floor staff, security guards, surveillance operators, etc, who all had the chance to stop this from happening, and none of them did, and the state wanted to make sure this would never happen again.

Drinking, gambling, same thing.

I thought the story was the kid hit a jackpot but then didn't get paid.

They must tell different stories to casino employees vs gamblers.

at this point we've ventured off of the threads purpose i guess and this can all be extracted but theres really no way the standards can be that high everywhere. if they were, every single bar in the united states would be shut down tomorrow

i believe the first ever bad beat jackpot at foxwoods was won by an underage reg and she was only discovered to be underage because she hit the bbj. she had played for a year (years?) and had apparently NEVER been carded

I've carded 5 people in the last month. None had been carded by floor people whom sat them into games. One guy was 16 days into age 21. I'm getting pissed about it. My gaming card is worth **** tons more than these lousy floor people. And these dumb ****s look at me like I'm an idiot when I mention it. Fortunately, at least one shift manager has begun to take it to heart.

At least 2 of the others carded were under age 23.

Edit: I personally played BJ in Reno at age 19. I too was never carded.

I don't think it was their first BBJ ever, but I was in the room when this happened and yes, she was in fact underage.

I also once saw a guy at MGM in Vegas confess he was underage to the table. He got thrown out.

If someone is found underage they will roll the tape and find every person that should have carded them and didn't.

The geographical area from which my room culls most of it's clientele gets a bad rap. But let me tell you, the corniest jokes I say while dealing still get a chuckle or two.

Sometimes someone will even say: "You know, you'er pretty funny."

My response: "One thing we can all agree on is I can't get by on my looks alone."

One thing I do that is somewhat unique as far as I can tell is when a raise comes in, say preflop to $7 in a $1/2 game, I will say "Raise to seven! Seven is the new two," or whatever.

Been doing it for three years and it's kind of my thing and people know me buy it. Sometimes a player will say it for me. Sometimes another dealer will do it while at a nearby table loudly in my direction forcing me to say "My trademark attorney will be in touch."

Maybe the laughter is because they think it's RIDICULOUS that I am trotting out stale lines. But even if a player is laughing at me a little bit (I have no problem with self-depreciating jokes - my specialty is when someone says "you're fast," my response is "My wife says that all the time.") it means they are having a better time than if they are not. If they are thinking about the joke I made, they're not thinking about how the cocktail waitress has been forever, or the bad beat they got dealt, or their job they hate.

(Before the chorus of "dummy up and deal" comes in - I am quite capable of that if needed and I have gotten pretty good at knowing what tables I can have fun with and what tables I shouldn't bother trying.)

Sometimes it takes a massacre. In my room, an underage player was caught after getting dealt into two hands. One underage player getting to play two hands before being caught cost my room three good employees, all of whom I liked personally quite a bit.

We are all quite diligent about checking IDs now.

A good friend lost his job because a supervisor put an underage kid in the game. Why would a dealer check the ID after a floor presumably did it. They told my friend it didn;t matter ... evne after the floor told them he was the one responsible.

Yet if a dealer ever stopped every game he sat in to personally check the IDs of the players already in the game you can be sure he would be disciplined (if unoffciially).

Nobody should be seated in the game without a floor or brush and every dealer should be able to rely on the floors and brushes to check IDs.

They should be able to, but they can't because a lot of people don't do their jobs.

And if you think he's kidding... http://www.reviewjournal.com/busines..****ohol-charges says Do some googling and you'll find stories from 18-20 yo's crying about how they got caught gambling underage and thought if it happened they'd just get kicked out of the casino after being scolded but instead they got ticketed/arrested and thrown out of the hotel and trespassed from all company properties and they have to return to appear in court and it's so unfair waaaaa!

I've never seen a dealer card anyone. I've seen waitresses card people, I've been carded by cashiers, I've been carded waiting for a seat, and occasionally they have security walk through the room and card everyone seated who looks young.

I think that system works well enough. Putting responsibility on the dealer to verify ID would slow the game too much. Casinos should find a way to ensure it never falls on dealers to do it.

I should also note that the rooms around here have all the entrances manned by security. So it's reasonable to assume that anyone inside has been checked -- not so at many Vegas casinos where anyone can walk through.

IIRC, last time I was in Vegas (when I was 21), I would only get carded at the desk when I put my name down. I think the floor might have checked it once or twice, but it wasn't very thorough at all. I get the feeling a scrap of paper with a valid birthdate on it might have worked.

I can't really think of a good way to ensure minors don't play without checking IDs at the entrance.

Now that I think of it, when I was at the Gold Strike in Tunica (a place where security is posted at every entrance of the casino to check ID's as you come in), the poker room was on the second floor, at great remove from the rest of the gaming space downstairs. You almost NEVER saw security up there just happen by...

...but every now and then, a security officer would walk in, and stride directly up to a young player and ask for ID. It only now occurs to me that this wasn't part of his rounds, that he was probably sent there by surveillance.

Enjoy this thread, I used to deal poker (college job). One game, two dealers, bar closed at 2, game could continue but no alcohol. Almost all of the dealers were also students, so if the game went late we would get tired. Watched a coworker shuffle up, cut, burn, and put up the flop once.