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05-25-2013 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
While having Bo Diddley Macau and you working would be poker room heaven within a short commute, it is hard to see how the casino as a whole would survive with the Boston casino just a short while away.
Ha, thanks for that. While I was sorry to see the NH bill fail, I agree with you that a NH casino may have struggled. I feel like the MA resorts are someday going to be spectacular properties, and would have made the NH property look like a pitch and putt. Admittedly however, I didn't follow the Millenium proposal very closely, that's just my gut feeling.

MA is still close to home though

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Originally Posted by RR
He mentioned two of the people that could possibly entice me to return to gaming.
I'm sure the poker world misses you, get back in the game!
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05-25-2013 , 04:56 AM
I just got hammered with about 54 **** yous from a nice reg. Full moon rising
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05-25-2013 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BoDiddleyMacau
I'm sure the poker world misses you, get back in the game!
BS. Do something productive with your life, like what you're doing now. Leave this poker stuff to the no-ambition *******s, like me.
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05-26-2013 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bmurph
Is there a casino where the poker room provides iPhone chargers for players? Players at our room seem to expect this service, and I was wondering if other rooms are doing it and perhaps we're just not following the trend.
We had the poker room set one up next to the high limit desk and tables at Casino AZ. Lasted 2-3 months before it was removed due to a theft.
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05-26-2013 , 08:28 PM
we have these kiosks in the uk where you put your phone in one of the doors, put the money in £1 - £3 depending on time, then lock it and take the key.

http://www.chargebox.com/
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05-27-2013 , 07:33 AM
Our Bj game has a buster bet. And people will bet the same amount on the buster bet as they bet in the back. Do any of you offer freindly advice and let them know their giving thier money away? Or do you let lem go down in flames?

I got tired of telling them that all the work they do to make hands is nullified when I don't bust.
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05-27-2013 , 10:50 AM
The id system at parx seems to work pretty well. At least I haven't had any issues with it, and it at least appears to me that they are actually looking at the picture on the id before they give it back.
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05-27-2013 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCake
Our Bj game has a buster bet. And people will bet the same amount on the buster bet as they bet in the back. Do any of you offer freindly advice and let them know their giving thier money away? Or do you let lem go down in flames?

I got tired of telling them that all the work they do to make hands is nullified when I don't bust.
I never give advice unless the player asks. Even then I only give a general idea of the strategy. Sidebets on BJ games have a much higher house advantage then the BJ game itself. A lot of casinos have policies that prohibit dealers from trying to talk a player out of placing a bet so know your rules and be careful.
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05-27-2013 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCake
Our Bj game has a buster bet. And people will bet the same amount on the buster bet as they bet in the back. Do any of you offer freindly advice and let them know their giving thier money away? Or do you let lem go down in flames?

I got tired of telling them that all the work they do to make hands is nullified when I don't bust.
Your advice may be friendly, but none of them really want to hear it. Just politely root for them and leave it at that.
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05-27-2013 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCake
Our Bj game has a buster bet. And people will bet the same amount on the buster bet as they bet in the back. Do any of you offer freindly advice and let them know their giving thier money away? Or do you let lem go down in flames?

I got tired of telling them that all the work they do to make hands is nullified when I don't bust.
I would highly advise against this. Why not tell them not to sit down in the first place? Even at a BJ table, the house has a huge advantage against players who don't know BJ strategy. Do you tell them that it's lighting money on fire to split 10s?
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05-27-2013 , 02:30 PM
So I had a guest yesterday catch me off guard and say something pretty offending to me and was wondering how you guys would react.


It's a 7 way pot at $6, so $42 in the pot. Flop comes K52. Seat 9 is the SB. I recognize Seat 9. He's a semi-regular who's pretty quiet. Doesn't really talk much. Isn't overly nice, but I've never had any issue with him. Action is currently on Seat 3. As he appears to be getting a bet ready, Seat 5 bets $7 OOT. I quickly inform her and the table we are still waiting on Seat 3. At about the same time Seat 9 emphatically states the same thing. He says "It's still on him!" somewhat loudly while pointing at Seat 3. Lady in seat 5 takes her bet back. Seat 3 goes "Ok, $7 then". A few players call, then Seat 9 instantly shoves for $90-ish. Folds to seat 3 who tank folds, the rest of the table folds pretty quickly.

Seat 3 and Seat 9 start talking about the hand. Seat 9 says he had 55, Seat 3 says he folded 22 for bottom set. Seat 9 asks if Seat 3 was planning to bet more on the flop, because it looked like he was getting ready to bet. Seat 3 says he probably would have bet more than $7. Seat 9 then says back to him "Yeah, I figured you we're going to bet more. I wish the dealer would have been paying more attention, he cost me money."

Um, wat? I've had people say stuff under the breath to me, and I've had people give me **** when I actually **** up. That's fine, I can take that. But this guy practically announced to the whole table that I screwed up, and because I screwed up, I cost him money. What really irked me was that I didn't do a damn thing wrong. As soon as Seat 5 bet OOT, I help my hand out to stop the next player from acting and said "Hold on, we're still here" while point to Seat 3.

Your move?
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05-27-2013 , 02:31 PM
Do not comment on the bets they make or the amount of the bets. Don't do it. You're asking for big trouble.

Rawrs: Sounds like the perfect time for an "O RLY?"
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05-27-2013 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
So I had a guest yesterday catch me off guard and say something pretty offending to me and was wondering how you guys would react.


It's a 7 way pot at $6, so $42 in the pot. Flop comes K52. Seat 9 is the SB. I recognize Seat 9. He's a semi-regular who's pretty quiet. Doesn't really talk much. Isn't overly nice, but I've never had any issue with him. Action is currently on Seat 3. As he appears to be getting a bet ready, Seat 5 bets $7 OOT. I quickly inform her and the table we are still waiting on Seat 3. At about the same time Seat 9 emphatically states the same thing. He says "It's still on him!" somewhat loudly while pointing at Seat 3. Lady in seat 5 takes her bet back. Seat 3 goes "Ok, $7 then". A few players call, then Seat 9 instantly shoves for $90-ish. Folds to seat 3 who tank folds, the rest of the table folds pretty quickly.

Seat 3 and Seat 9 start talking about the hand. Seat 9 says he had 55, Seat 3 says he folded 22 for bottom set. Seat 9 asks if Seat 3 was planning to bet more on the flop, because it looked like he was getting ready to bet. Seat 3 says he probably would have bet more than $7. Seat 9 then says back to him "Yeah, I figured you we're going to bet more. I wish the dealer would have been paying more attention, he cost me money."

Um, wat? I've had people say stuff under the breath to me, and I've had people give me **** when I actually **** up. That's fine, I can take that. But this guy practically announced to the whole table that I screwed up, and because I screwed up, I cost him money. What really irked me was that I didn't do a damn thing wrong. As soon as Seat 5 bet OOT, I help my hand out to stop the next player from acting and said "Hold on, we're still here" while point to Seat 3.

Your move?
I had a player make the same kind of comment. I looked at him and said "how would you have stopped that?" -- got no answer.

In reality the answer is easy. A good dealer would anticipate this problem and not even deal in the 5 seat that hand.
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05-27-2013 , 02:49 PM
I push into an Omaha 8/b game last night and a player who is sitting at the table with a missed blind button in front of him posts (usually the omaha players want to wait for the blinds) and announces that he will now be playing again because the previous has left. He talks about how the previous dealer was in a bad mood and was nasty ....

On the first hand after a flop there is a bet and he disgustedly throws his cards .... not at me, not at anybody .... but definitely with unnecessary force and flourish ..... And when he bets he bets by throwing the chips (i don't mean tossing ... I mean throwing) which of course is even worse in Omaha because I have to stack the pot.

It was all I could do to keep myself from looking at him and saying what I was I thinking "I wonder why the last dealer was in a bad mood?"
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05-27-2013 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
"...I wish the dealer would have been paying more attention, he cost me money."

Your move?
In an amused tone, while wearing an amused look, I would ask him, "Me? What did I do?" If he sticks with his nonsensical perspective, then of course I would ask him what I should have done differently.

I know there's no shot of changing his mind on this one. This little demonstration is for the benefit of the rest of the table.

OR:

"'Paying more attention'? To what, the Psychic Hotline? Because they would have told me someone barely in range of my peripheral vision had intents to bet out of turn???"

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Originally Posted by psandman
I push into an Omaha 8/b game last night and a player who is sitting at the table with a missed blind button in front of him posts (usually the omaha players want to wait for the blinds) and announces that he will now be playing again because the previous has left. He talks about how the previous dealer was in a bad mood and was nasty ....

On the first hand after a flop there is a bet and he disgustedly throws his cards .... not at me, not at anybody .... but definitely with unnecessary force and flourish ..... And when he bets he bets by throwing the chips (i don't mean tossing ... I mean throwing) which of course is even worse in Omaha because I have to stack the pot.

It was all I could do to keep myself from looking at him and saying what I was I thinking "I wonder why the last dealer was in a bad mood?"
That's a great line, Psandy. I would have definitely said it.

I was thinking as I logged in today we needed to start a "You know you're dealing O/8 when...." tangent, inspired by last night's down where the floor needed to be called because Seat 3 wanted Seat 1 to turn down his headphones (especially funny because the holiday weekend crowd resulted in the loudest that the room has been in my two years here, it's not like you could hear a pin drop in the place and that stillness was being marred by someone's headphone's overflow).

Most amusing part of the story:

SEAT 3: Dealer, could you ask Seat 1 to turn down his headphones?

ME: (to seat 1) Can you hear me?

SEAT 1: (shakes his head "no")

ME: Then why are you shaking your head?

SEAT 1: (no response)

ME: (I'm done with this nonsense) Floor!

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Originally Posted by psandman
A good dealer would anticipate this problem and not even deal in the 5 seat that hand.
Funny you should mention that, this just happened a couple of nights ago:

We've got a reg who is a VERY good player. It's also very clear that he has a firmer grasp on other +EV gambling ventures than just about anybody, I'd put him in the top ten of people I've known in my 20 years in this business. But this guy just cannot win a big pot when I'm dealing, and it usually involves some incredible suckout. It really is incredible. Like I said, I've been here two years, and he knows gambling, so he took it without complaint, time after time, but his patience has been exhausted by now, and he has to vent at me when it happens. It really is freaky, most players who do this just conveniently ignore those times I did push them a big pot, but when this guy cites his near-100% failure rate with me in the box, he's not exaggerating.

He gets all-in with a flopped full house this weekend, loses to a 2-outer, and it starts again. But this time, even though it's fueled by frustration, it's not as angry (he was playing in a smaller game for some reason, and playing LHE when he usually plays NLHE), and I felt that speaking might serve to calm him a little instead of riling him further, so when he pressed me for an answer to, "You KNOW it, too, don't you? Am I exaggerating?", I offered with a shrug, "If there was anything I could do about it, I would. You know that. You know there's nothing I can do about it."

His earnest reply: "Quit dealing, maybe?"
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05-27-2013 , 04:13 PM
It's funny to me how many similar personalities a lot of us share. I always know to stay out of angry customers ways when they're just spitting nonsense and especially when they're blaming me for things I can't control, but I ALWAYS find myself playing devils advocate just for my own peace of mind.
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05-27-2013 , 04:46 PM
In our casino the house does not bank the game. Its an outside corp. But I do see your point(s).
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05-27-2013 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
I was thinking as I logged in today we needed to start a "You know you're dealing O/8 when...." tangent, inspired by last night's down where the floor needed to be called because Seat 3 wanted Seat 1 to turn down his headphones (especially funny because the holiday weekend crowd resulted in the loudest that the room has been in my two years here, it's not like you could hear a pin drop in the place and that stillness was being marred by someone's headphone's overflow).

Most amusing part of the story:

SEAT 3: Dealer, could you ask Seat 1 to turn down his headphones?

ME: (to seat 1) Can you hear me?

SEAT 1: (shakes his head "no")

ME: Then why are you shaking your head?

SEAT 1: (no response)

ME: (I'm done with this nonsense) Floor!
In fairness, the complaint about S1 may have had nothing to do with disturbing the peace by overflow noise, and instead it may have been about slowing down the action. But you were there and I wasn't....

My favorite was the guy in the 2 seat convinced he had the God-given right to:
  • Keep his headphones so loud that he couldn't hear the dealer announce shown hands.
  • See a better hand shown in turn before deciding to show or muck.
  • Have opponents' shown hands presented right under his nose to keep him from getting up out of his seat to see them.

C'mon, pal, you can pick two out of the three, but not all three.

And of course, because this was here in WA, the dealer's solution was exactly what she'd been trained to do: Attempt to grab my cards from the 8 seat and present them to the other guy for his approval, then act taken aback when I didn't just hand the cards over. It's really tilting.
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05-27-2013 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by YTF
His earnest reply: "Quit dealing, maybe?"
HA! Classic
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05-27-2013 , 05:51 PM
I gotta pretty amusing story.

We have a tourney player who loves the game been paying awhile but just can't Grasp regular concepts strat and ettiqute...

So about 3+yrs ago we have a ME W.S.O.P seat up for grabs and have a huge turnout. Low and behold he wins!!! So off he goes to play and about 3 weeks later he comes back to one of our niggtly mtts and gathers all the dealers and TD before the tourney to tell his story....

He has a deck of cards that was givin to him by the RIO and proceeds to lay cards out and describe how he had flopped a set of Q's only to lose to quads on the river. Its a very detailed story with pros at the table chip stacks, and tells us exactly how the hand plays out with lots of color commentary. I mean he really had a helluva story we all ooohhed and awwed at and sharing the beat.


FAST FOREWARD to one year later days before the M.E.. right before one of are dailies he once again gathers everyone (almost the same group) together and procceds to say.....

Spoiler:
I'm really sorry guys, I have to tell all of you that I lied. I made the whole story up. I ended up 3 barrell bluffing off my stack with third pair and lost to ACES. I wanted to come back to tell you all that I made it up to save face and want to clear my concious before I went back to play the series again this year as ive felt guilty this whole time.
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05-27-2013 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
I would highly advise against this. Why not tell them not to sit down in the first place? Even at a BJ table, the house has a huge advantage against players who don't know BJ strategy. Do you tell them that it's lighting money on fire to split 10s?
Ya I know I only do it after 7 hands of them paying juice and pushing all thier 19 and 20s then complaing that they never win.

I'm a professional and don't **** around in the box. When it comes to advice I always tell the player when they ask "what should I do"? Is always "go with you're gut." Then if pressed I say that " when I play I would do XY or Z but its you're money so do what you feel."

I would never lol tell a player to not bet. Ever. When they ask about any bet I tell them what the bet does, how it wins and how it loses. Period.
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05-28-2013 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TheCake
In our casino the house does not bank the game. Its an outside corp. But I do see your point(s).
Well, the banking corp has just as much right to not have their action killed by you as a casino that banks it's own action, whether they're the ones employing you or not. It's important for both parties for card rooms and bankers to have a mutually good relationship, for the betterment of the whole business.

If you say something, the banker might mention it to their supervisor, who may complain to your floor, who would then probably tell you to cut it out. Besides, don't you get your best tips when a 6+ card bust hits and there're bets out there?

I think you already know you shouldn't say anything, you're just not a soulless bastard who doesn't care when people lose all their money, but this is the business we have chosen...
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05-28-2013 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
That's a great line, Psandy. I would have definitely said it.
My management doesn't have the same sense of humor.

I am however looking for a response for a regular player who has the annoying habit of saying "Your welcome" when I thank a player for a tip. What I mean is the player in seat 3 tips me .... I say "Thank you" and the jerk off in the 7 seat says "your welcome"
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05-28-2013 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by psandman
My management doesn't have the same sense of humor.

I am however looking for a response for a regular player who has the annoying habit of saying "Your welcome" when I thank a player for a tip. What I mean is the player in seat 3 tips me .... I say "Thank you" and the jerk off in the 7 seat says "your welcome"
Is the jerk off in seat 7 a tipper? Or does he regularly stiff then pull this line?
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05-28-2013 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JDiamond364
Is the jerk off in seat 7 a tipper? Or does he regularly stiff then pull this line?
To be honest ... I don't recall. There are dealers I work with who remember every player who ever stiffed them ..... but I tend to forget things like that,


However the guy is so tight that that if he tips $1 every hand he wins in an 8 hour session it would probably cost him $4.
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