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08-23-2010 , 01:27 PM
Awesome ^
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08-23-2010 , 02:52 PM
Agreed!
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08-23-2010 , 03:12 PM
Cool story.
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08-23-2010 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
There's nowhere else to post this story, so since I actually heard it in the break room, I'll put it here. It's easiest to tell this story in the first person, so realize that the "I" in the story is not me:

I was over at [insert name of racetrack that has poker] playing in a cash game. A dealer walking past the table asked the dealer in our game, "You're in, right?" Our dealer replied, "Hell yeah, give me $20 on it."

This mysterious exchange naturally piqued our interests, so we all immediately started to interrogate the dealer to see what was "on".

He explained that one of the dealers had a hot tip on a horse (knew the trainer or something), and they were all going to bet on it.

Guess what our next question was?
Spoiler:
"WHAT HORSE????"


Churchill Downs, "Larry Bird". Really? The horse is named Larry Bird? "No, but he's #33. Three horse, third race." Well, that's an easy way to remember it. The dealer added, "He should go off at about ten-to-one."

Naturally, we pester the floorman to put Churchill on one of the tv's next to our table. I decide what the hell, I'll throw $10 on it. I told my brother, who was playing on another table, and he also planned on throwing away $10 on this silliness.

The third race goes to post. It turns out that I'm the only player at our table to actually bet money on this race, but everyone at the table is rooting for us.

They opened the starting gate, and our Larry Bird dominated just like the real LB used to. The three horse led by daylight all the way around the track, winning easily by about ten lengths. A thoroughly, completely dominating performance, he absolutely mopped the floor with his competition.

Our whole table was whooping and hollering throughout, all the other tables looked over at us quizzically.

Naturally, my next concern was if my brother got the bet down for us. He came over shortly after the race, all smiles, alleviating my concerns. "But that horse didn't pay ten-to-one. He paid THIRTY-to-one!", and my brother handed me $310.

Everyone is smiling now...except the dealer. He's not seeing any other dealers smiling, he's not hearing any cheering from the break room. He's completely distracted, paying no attention to the poker game, dealing completely on auto-pilot.

Finally, his tipster walks casually past the table again. Our dealer, confused and desperate, calls out, "You put the bet in, right?"

The tipster looks confused. "Not yet. I can't bet the horse until Friday, the day of the race."
I bet he was livid!
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08-23-2010 , 09:55 PM
Sweet!
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08-24-2010 , 08:44 PM
Had another incident with my pesky dealer last night. This time, he gets to our table (1-3NL) and deals 6 or 7 straight hands with maybe $15 in the pot before it's taken down. Each of these hands he receives no tips. Me...I'm in the 10 hole and I'm stuck maybe $200. He starts washing the deck after every hand. He's counting out loud "6 in a row"..."that makes 7". Starting to really irk me so I keep my head down and ignore him.

Cocktail waitress makes her way near our table and I catch him shaking his head to her to not come by. He doesn't say a word, but I observe him basically tell the waitress to not take any orders at our table and she walks away. I shout "Can I get a coke". She either doesn't hear me or ignores me and walks on.

By this time, the dealer realizes I wanted a drink and he says to me "i'm sorry, I'll flag her down for you". I said "No, I'll get it myself." He said he would get her. I said "no, you clearly didn't want her over here since you told her to not come by. I can get it myself. I need to use the restroom anyway."

Coming back from the restroom I stop to get myself a coke from the self-serve station outside the poker room. He is coming on break. He attempts to apologize to me, but instead of getting angry with him, I tell him this "Look at it this way...the slower you deal, the less chance I have to win a pot...and the less chance YOU have to get a tip." He then says "After 7 hands, I said, why even try to be speedy for these guys". I said again, "Well, I'm trying to get unstuck, and you know I tip. Why not hurry to get as many hands as possible so I CAN tip you?"

Not really sure he got the point, but I said my peace respectfully. Next time, I'm not so sure I will be so considerate.
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08-24-2010 , 10:05 PM
So, a friend was dealing at a $25 BJ table today. A guy is playing two spots at table max (he is way up, and has been dropping tons for the dealers). So he starts putting $500 chips under the bet of the player to his left (they just met but are friendly). The floor manager is watching the game because of the amount this guy is betting. When he tries to put another purple chip under another player's bet, the floor says something (telling him he can't play that many spots). The player gets ticked off and says "Fine, I'm not playing his spot. I am giving him a purple chip."

So the floor cant really do anything about it. The player who had the chip under his bet wins. He gives the original player the profit, but starts picking up his other chips... including the original purple. The guy who gave him the purple starts to get vocal.

"What the hell are you doing?"

"I'm going to the cashier"

"Give me back my purple chip."

"You gave it to me"

Original owner of the chip says to the floor, "What the ****, he's stealing my money."

Obvious response... "No he's not, you gave it to him."
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08-24-2010 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dealer-Guy
I'm really turned off by the player in seat 9 who stinks of cigarette smoke or the woman with the cheap perfume cloud in seat 1.

Players with bad breath, puleaseee lets get rid of them.

How about players working on 36 hours and need a break to shower and change clothes?

I think about these things all the time but it's just thoughts I keep to myself. But surely you notice these same people. If they sit near the dealer, they must be sitting next to you at sometime.

You are aware that for some people, weight is not a thing they can do much about? There are medical conditions that cause obesity that cannot be treated with a diet.

There are also conditions that cause people to sweat profusely even if it's not particularly hot. I know at least one dealer who has this problem. should we fire him to appease you?

Age slows down the metabolism so experienced dealers may gain weight as they gain experience. Guess maybe we need to put an age limit on dealers, no card slinging after age 35?

How about unattractive people, can they deal or would that be a bad thing?

I have yet to find a cure for shortness, do you know of one? Is there an infomercial out there I've missed?

I agree, a slim, healthy dealer is much preferable to a fat, unhealthy dealer.

Just as a fat, loud, opinionated player who leaves grease on the cards and chips is undesirable.

Kirk, draw whatever conclusions you wish about my height, weight or anything else. However, since you seem to choose to judge people about things they may have no control over, whatever the truth may be probably would not interest you.
Some good points. But the perfume problem can be easily solved if one of their friends would mention it. I have been caught in small areas, ex. elevators, with over users of perfume, cheap and otherwise. It can be very offensive and has a very bad physical effect on me.
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08-24-2010 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinOnTilt
Had another incident with my pesky dealer last night. This time, he gets to our table (1-3NL) and deals 6 or 7 straight hands with maybe $15 in the pot before it's taken down. Each of these hands he receives no tips. Me...I'm in the 10 hole and I'm stuck maybe $200. He starts washing the deck after every hand. He's counting out loud "6 in a row"..."that makes 7". Starting to really irk me so I keep my head down and ignore him.

Cocktail waitress makes her way near our table and I catch him shaking his head to her to not come by. He doesn't say a word, but I observe him basically tell the waitress to not take any orders at our table and she walks away. I shout "Can I get a coke". She either doesn't hear me or ignores me and walks on.

By this time, the dealer realizes I wanted a drink and he says to me "i'm sorry, I'll flag her down for you". I said "No, I'll get it myself." He said he would get her. I said "no, you clearly didn't want her over here since you told her to not come by. I can get it myself. I need to use the restroom anyway."

Coming back from the restroom I stop to get myself a coke from the self-serve station outside the poker room. He is coming on break. He attempts to apologize to me, but instead of getting angry with him, I tell him this "Look at it this way...the slower you deal, the less chance I have to win a pot...and the less chance YOU have to get a tip." He then says "After 7 hands, I said, why even try to be speedy for these guys". I said again, "Well, I'm trying to get unstuck, and you know I tip. Why not hurry to get as many hands as possible so I CAN tip you?"

Not really sure he got the point, but I said my peace respectfully. Next time, I'm not so sure I will be so considerate.

I knoiw a lot of dealers who slow down when not getting tipped. But thats never been my attitude. In fact if anything i speed up. for the very reason you mention. If there is one guy at the table who will tip I need to get out as many hands as possible so i might hit him with a pot.
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08-24-2010 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinOnTilt
Had another incident with my pesky dealer last night. This time, he gets to our table (1-3NL) and deals 6 or 7 straight hands with maybe $15 in the pot before it's taken down. Each of these hands he receives no tips. Me...I'm in the 10 hole and I'm stuck maybe $200. He starts washing the deck after every hand. He's counting out loud "6 in a row"..."that makes 7". Starting to really irk me so I keep my head down and ignore him.

Cocktail waitress makes her way near our table and I catch him shaking his head to her to not come by. He doesn't say a word, but I observe him basically tell the waitress to not take any orders at our table and she walks away. I shout "Can I get a coke". She either doesn't hear me or ignores me and walks on.

By this time, the dealer realizes I wanted a drink and he says to me "i'm sorry, I'll flag her down for you". I said "No, I'll get it myself." He said he would get her. I said "no, you clearly didn't want her over here since you told her to not come by. I can get it myself. I need to use the restroom anyway."

Coming back from the restroom I stop to get myself a coke from the self-serve station outside the poker room. He is coming on break. He attempts to apologize to me, but instead of getting angry with him, I tell him this "Look at it this way...the slower you deal, the less chance I have to win a pot...and the less chance YOU have to get a tip." He then says "After 7 hands, I said, why even try to be speedy for these guys". I said again, "Well, I'm trying to get unstuck, and you know I tip. Why not hurry to get as many hands as possible so I CAN tip you?"

Not really sure he got the point, but I said my peace respectfully. Next time, I'm not so sure I will be so considerate.
If I ever notice a dealer slowing down because he is not getting tipped while I'm on the floor that is an instant counseling. If a dealer is not dealing to the best of his ability and especially if he is dealing slower than he normally would then he is essentially stealing hands from the players and drop from the house.
One of my young dealers (who no longer works for me) that was about 6 months out of school came up to the poker podium before going on break. He sets his toke box down and says to another dealer very casually "nobody was tipping so I just starting taking my time, relaxing, and just floating the cards to the players." I was standing at the podium at the time so you can guess one of the reasons that he no longer works for me.
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08-25-2010 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Owlmanda
So, a friend was dealing at a $25 BJ table today. A guy is playing two spots at table max (he is way up, and has been dropping tons for the dealers). So he starts putting $500 chips under the bet of the player to his left (they just met but are friendly). The floor manager is watching the game because of the amount this guy is betting. When he tries to put another purple chip under another player's bet, the floor says something (telling him he can't play that many spots). The player gets ticked off and says "Fine, I'm not playing his spot. I am giving him a purple chip."

So the floor cant really do anything about it. The player who had the chip under his bet wins. He gives the original player the profit, but starts picking up his other chips... including the original purple. The guy who gave him the purple starts to get vocal.

"What the hell are you doing?"

"I'm going to the cashier"

"Give me back my purple chip."

"You gave it to me"

Original owner of the chip says to the floor, "What the ****, he's stealing my money."

Obvious response... "No he's not, you gave it to him."
That guy got off easy - I would have kept the profit from the winning BJ hand as well!
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08-25-2010 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by psandman
crappy time instead some ******* threw cards at my face.
Did you get his a** thrown out, I hope?
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08-25-2010 , 09:12 AM
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Did you get his a** thrown out, I hope?
He racked up and left immediately on his own.
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08-25-2010 , 02:21 PM
Only had the cards come at my face once, from a known trouble-maker in Tunica, a guy whose behavior is so awful he MUST be barred by one or two poker rooms by now. I had to duck, and the cards missed me, landing on the floor behind me.

The other players seemed surprised when I made no effort to retrieve them. I finished the hand, and when it was time to shuffle up for the next hand and they still hadn't found their way back to the table, I called the floor to come pick them up for me.

As soon as I called "FLOOR!", the thrower was up out of his chair, walking behind me to get the cards. He knew that if the floor got involved with this, he was getting the heave-ho. He put the cards on the table next to me, and went back to his seat.

I didn't say a word. I shuffled, cut, and dealt him out.

He didn't say a word, either. He stood, picked up his stack of chips, raised it over his head, and slammed the table like he was swinging a hammer. Then he left without a word.

He didn't return a for a few weeks. When he did, he came to me and and gave me a very short, but very sincere-sounding, apology. Did he mean it? I don't know. I'd say there's an 80% chance he did (he always liked me because we're both Italian, and he must respect the fact that I don't take any **** from him), but there's at least a 20% chance that an apology was a pre-requisite from management to allow him to return to the room.
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08-25-2010 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Only had the cards come at my face once, from a known trouble-maker in Tunica, a guy whose behavior is so awful he MUST be barred by one or two poker rooms by now. I had to duck, and the cards missed me, landing on the floor behind me.

The other players seemed surprised when I made no effort to retrieve them. I finished the hand, and when it was time to shuffle up for the next hand and they still hadn't found their way back to the table, I called the floor to come pick them up for me.

As soon as I called "FLOOR!", the thrower was up out of his chair, walking behind me to get the cards. He knew that if the floor got involved with this, he was getting the heave-ho. He put the cards on the table next to me, and went back to his seat.

I didn't say a word. I shuffled, cut, and dealt him out.

He didn't say a word, either. He stood, picked up his stack of chips, raised it over his head, and slammed the table like he was swinging a hammer. Then he left without a word.

He didn't return a for a few weeks. When he did, he came to me and and gave me a very short, but very sincere-sounding, apology. Did he mean it? I don't know. I'd say there's an 80% chance he did (he always liked me because we're both Italian, and he must respect the fact that I don't take any **** from him), but there's at least a 20% chance that an apology was a pre-requisite from management to allow him to return to the room.
In my case I moved out of the way, but I'm not sure if they would have hit me because they curved at the last minute. They landed on the table. I didn't call the floor because he immediately grabbed some racks and the floor handling that area is somebody who I think is kind of weak when it come sto dealing with problem guests. I knew If I called the floor I risked him talking the guy into staying.

I did tell another floor person after i pushed out and he promised me he would adress it. I only worked 2 days after that and haven't seen the guy. I don't think he'll be banned (If I went to the shift manager he probably would have been) but I trust that the floor I spoke to either has or will have a word with him...
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08-25-2010 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
And I have more problems with the players who always seem to want to help. They push in other players bets, ofetn mixing the bets of multiple players .... making it imposssible for me to know who if anyone shorted a pot. Plus I don't like to have players putting there hands in other players chips. I know they are trying to be helpful ..... and that makes it hard to correct them .... because they inevitably feel wronged.
I push in bets all the time, but it is usually when:

a) The dealer has asked the player to push it in further and they still don't
and
b) The action on the round is complete. This is mainly post flop.
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08-25-2010 , 04:09 PM
One time I really helped out a dealer, but I am sure he doesn't even remember it.

He came in dealing an 8/16 game, and about halfway through the down, he was down to like 5 $1 chips. You need $1 chips to deal to a $2 game to make rake, in a few hands he was going to be in a very bad spot.

I was in the 9 seat and hit the call for chips button. When the chip runner came over, I told him/her very quietly the dealer needs a refill, and any extra slowing of the game was not caused. He was still being very very slow, and we got about half the hands he usually gets out that down.

He was either performing on 0 hours sleep for the past 2 days or was on something. He is usually a very quick dealer, and within 1 or 2 hands of his down, I knew right away something was very wrong.
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08-25-2010 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
In my case I moved out of the way, but I'm not sure if they would have hit me because they curved at the last minute. They landed on the table. I didn't call the floor because he immediately grabbed some racks and the floor handling that area is somebody who I think is kind of weak when it come sto dealing with problem guests. I knew If I called the floor I risked him talking the guy into staying.

I did tell another floor person after i pushed out and he promised me he would adress it. I only worked 2 days after that and haven't seen the guy. I don't think he'll be banned (If I went to the shift manager he probably would have been) but I trust that the floor I spoke to either has or will have a word with him...
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Only had the cards come at my face once, from a known trouble-maker in Tunica, a guy whose behavior is so awful he MUST be barred by one or two poker rooms by now. I had to duck, and the cards missed me, landing on the floor behind me.

The other players seemed surprised when I made no effort to retrieve them. I finished the hand, and when it was time to shuffle up for the next hand and they still hadn't found their way back to the table, I called the floor to come pick them up for me.

As soon as I called "FLOOR!", the thrower was up out of his chair, walking behind me to get the cards. He knew that if the floor got involved with this, he was getting the heave-ho. He put the cards on the table next to me, and went back to his seat.

I didn't say a word. I shuffled, cut, and dealt him out.

He didn't say a word, either. He stood, picked up his stack of chips, raised it over his head, and slammed the table like he was swinging a hammer. Then he left without a word.

He didn't return a for a few weeks. When he did, he came to me and and gave me a very short, but very sincere-sounding, apology. Did he mean it? I don't know. I'd say there's an 80% chance he did (he always liked me because we're both Italian, and he must respect the fact that I don't take any **** from him), but there's at least a 20% chance that an apology was a pre-requisite from management to allow him to return to the room.
You guys have dealt in rooms where they don't allow card throwing (thankfully). I dealt in a large california room where card throwing was permitted. I was only cut in the face once, but I don't think I ever dealt an 8 hour shift without having cards thrown overhand at me. This is a large part of why I just don't allow card throwing to get started at all.
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08-25-2010 , 05:51 PM
There is a dealer at another room that had a PLO player throw cards at him. One hit him directly in the eye and scratched his cornea. He had to have surgery. The guest was evicted for a month.
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08-25-2010 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MidwestFloor
There is a dealer at another room that had a PLO player throw cards at him. One hit him directly in the eye and scratched his cornea. He had to have surgery. The guest was evicted for a month.
I would like to think that (if this is the room I think it is) that this happened before they got their NEW manager, and that she would have reacted a little more appropriately than a one month ban.
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08-25-2010 , 05:57 PM
I don't mean to go off on a tangent, but I had a question. How many dealers and other casino workers are a part of a union? Las Vegas as well as other parts of the country?
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08-28-2010 , 12:30 AM
I finally have something good to say about tv poker!

All the players in the room today were abuzz, talking about a hand that aired on the WSOP. A player asked Negreanu for a count of his stack. Negreanu declined to count down his stack for the guy. Dealer wouldn't count it, either. Floor was called, explained to the world that a player must keep all his chips in view, and stacked neatly enough that the ballpark total can be seen at a glance--but nobody is entitled to have it counted down before it's been bet.

This was a revelation to everyone....except me. Now, finally, people will believe me when I tell them that they don't get to order around other players on a whim.

That's the good news. The bad news: This year's WSOP coverage has introduced people to the term "The Hijack Position", and now everyone and his brother is trying to work it into the conversation, to look cool.
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08-28-2010 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny

That's the good news. The bad news: This year's WSOP coverage has introduced people to the term "The Hijack Position", and now everyone and his brother is trying to work it into the conversation, to look cool.
About 4-5 years ago I was playing with Susie Isaacs in a home game type sattelite. She claimed she had just coined the term "hijack" position and explained it's meaning, since I had never heard it before. Funny that it's caught on so well.

I'll make sure to thank her for you the next time I see her!
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08-28-2010 , 03:45 AM
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About 4-5 years ago I was playing with Susie Isaacs in a home game type sattelite. She claimed she had just coined the term "hijack" position and explained it's meaning, since I had never heard it before. Funny that it's caught on so well.

I'll make sure to thank her for you the next time I see her!
I highly doubt she coined that phrase. She's just full of herself. I'm not a fan, to say the least.
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08-28-2010 , 03:55 AM
The last couple of days I have been performing as a magician/card cheat at a performing arts festival. Yesterday there was a pit dealer in the audience. I figured I would show him something he could really relate to, so I shuffled the deck with a RRSRC and showed that the cards where still in new deck order. He then told me, that they don't shuffle the cards like that anymore because they have the automatic shufflers. I said that they probably still did that at the beginning of the day (Dutch casino, which closes at 3 am and opens at 13pm). He said they even didn't do that anymore. They just scrambled/washed the cards and put them in the machine.
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