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08-19-2010 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dealer-Guy
Different rules for different rooms maybe?

Once I've confirmed the bets are the same I will either pull the stacks in and push them over or leave them in front of the players, especially if a player is all in.
I don't think its appropriate generally to leave bets in front of players except maybe on the river, or of course you should do it heads up in a split pot game.

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If it looks like there is a split pot coming, I may leave the stacks in front of the players.
I really do not like the idea that you are basically suggesting to players that there is a split pot by leaving the bets in front of players only when you think there is a split pot coming.

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If the stacks get pulled in, unless it's a high/low game, they should be pushed over
I'm not really sure that it matters other than its faster to push a pot when you aren't trying to keep stacks standing.
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08-19-2010 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RR
Yes, you are right. It isn't the dealers it is places that mix and match have pit people running the poker room and figure if they can deal they can deal poker. It would certainly be advantagous to have poker dealers be able to deal in the pit and I have never seen it done where they bothered to actually teach the dealer to deal poker. I went to one room where they did this and there were dual rates that didn't know how to cut the cards.
I got sent to deal at a sister property that had a small poker pit. Usually they had some pit dealers trained to deal poker (but this weekend most of them were busy with a special event so myself and another poker dealer were sent to deal.

The players begged us to stay. They told me that there were a couple of the regular dealers who were ok as poker dealers but that most of them were terrible. At one point when I wasn;t dealing i was helping out as chip runner, I brought a $100 bill to the floor (who had control of the poker bank) and asked for a $40/$60 soft break. The floor just looked at me as though I was speaking another language, and then I taught the floor what a soft break was. What was the problem. Well this particular floor was a pit floor. I will say this for her, she at least was willing to talk with me about it and tried to learn some of the terminology. I do thank god I never had the need to have her make a decision at the game.
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08-19-2010 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 2+3
Question for the dealers:

I play a lot of 2/5 where there is a lot of red chips in play. During large pots, I've seen bets handled differently by different dealers. Say there is a bet of 200 and a call, some dealers pull the stacks in to the pot (after verifying the amount) but leave them in stacks of $100. After showdown, they slide the stacks to the winner.

Other dealers will pull the stacks in and drop them into the pile of chips already in the pot. Then just push the huge pile to the winner.

Was curious as to the reasoning or preference for each way. Is it a dealer specific thing or maybe rules of the room?
I deal a 2/2 dealers choice game with a huge amount of action, players buying in for £2.5k and during a night we will see a few 1k + pots, because it is PL we are taught to stack the pot in rows of 100 making it easier to keep track if we do lose track or get sidelined by something else, it can help
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08-19-2010 , 12:34 PM
I liked the story about the floor not knowing what a soft break is.
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08-19-2010 , 12:40 PM
so I was just wondering how easy is dealing poker? I've dealt a little at home games and i'm a pretty bad dealer and was wondering if going to dealer school really helps you even if your just a bad dealer? Like is dealing cards really easy with practice or do some people just fail at dealing?
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08-19-2010 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JKpoker1
so I was just wondering how easy is dealing poker? I've dealt a little at home games and i'm a pretty bad dealer and was wondering if going to dealer school really helps you even if your just a bad dealer? Like is dealing cards really easy with practice or do some people just fail at dealing?
Haven't you heard? Monkeys can do it, replaced by robots, etc.
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08-19-2010 , 02:55 PM
I know a couple dealers at the Taj/Borg that have a short reach. If there's a bet they can't get to, they'll use the money slot pusher thing, and hold it from the bottom, and use it as an extension of their hand, hooking the bet in.

I always say "Button's moving".
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08-19-2010 , 04:12 PM
I posted this in another thread but i'll add it to over here.
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Don't mean to derail the thread in any particular way, but I have a question about my own situation.

I have received an opportunity recently to become a poker dealer in a small casino inside a backwater area in Florida. two hours off of Orlando - I currently brush for a poker room and earn approx. 30k annually. The poker room which will give me the opportunity for advancement has only 8 tables but is the only poker room in existence inside that entire county. Thats practically a two hour radius within the area. I currently live in a more urbanized area than where I am expecting to relocate where the job may be. It's pretty much a rural area with a lower population and lower income. Does anyone think I can make a good living off of where I am expected to become a dealer? I'm pursuing that casino because dealer positions are barren for break-in dealers in south florida and they provide shoddy hours. I am capable of dealing at least 25 hands an hour, and looking to improve that hourly.

On the side note, I'm excited to go somewhere else thats different than where I live since the past 18 years of my whole life. Is there some fullfillment to find in a more rural area, without all the partying? I'm not a party animal, I prefer a nice outdoor environment with quality people. I can use some input.
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08-19-2010 , 04:45 PM
Dealing is very easy.

Being a good dealer who understands the subtleties and nuances of a game and how to run it well, not so much. As with most things, if you do it really well, it's not obvious that you're doing it.

But still, on the grand scheme of things to do in the world for money, dealing ranks among the easiest. But I still appreciate and respect the craft of doing it well.
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08-19-2010 , 10:00 PM
Whether or not to push in bets and move the button depends greatly on the dealer. If you ask a 4'11", 66yo overweight dealer with a bad back "do you want me to push the bet in" the answer is always "YES!!!!" And the game tends to just stop every betting round when you have someone in the corner seat who simply won't put the bets out at arm's length. These same dealers often just point at the button when it's in the 2 or 3 seat and say "button moves, please... button... someone please move the button".

When you have a 6'2", 170lb, long-armed, 22yo guy dealing, you can mostly let him do his thing--he can reach almost anything and "helping" just breaks the rhythm.

Less is often more, but don't just sit there when the dealer is stretching and still can't get her fingers on the chips. If the guy who put the bet out there is too oblivious to realize he's the cause of this game stoppage and dealer discomfort, I'll move the chips 8 inches closer.
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08-20-2010 , 12:26 AM
I find it terribly tilting when players repeatedly place their bets a mile away from the dealer. Is it really that foreign to some people to have consideration for those around them?
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08-20-2010 , 12:29 AM
So are there anymore good breakroom stories?
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08-20-2010 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by punkass
I know a couple dealers at the Taj/Borg that have a short reach. If there's a bet they can't get to, they'll use the money slot pusher thing, and hold it from the bottom, and use it as an extension of their hand, hooking the bet in.
Because thats easier than saying "excuse me sir would you please push your bet a bit closer to me?"
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08-20-2010 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by punkass
I know a couple dealers at the Taj/Borg that have a short reach. If there's a bet they can't get to, they'll use the money slot pusher thing, and hold it from the bottom, and use it as an extension of their hand, hooking the bet in.

I always say "Button's moving".
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Originally Posted by psandman
Because thats easier than saying "excuse me sir would you please push your bet a bit closer to me?"
It could be, I mean a lot depends on the room and what happens next if the player says "F you, get it yourself."
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08-20-2010 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nuisance
So are there anymore good breakroom stories?
A million of them. This one really has to be told in the first person, but I'll try to do it justice for him.

Heard this one from a 30+ year veteran of the business. He's in his 20s dealing in vegas. This would have been in the 70s.

He's dealing blackjack one day.

Next dealer to push him out was one of these Korean girls who married a G.I. back during the war. Her name? Suk (rhymes with Luke.) Unfortunately for her, it didn't match up well with her last name.

"Alright gentlemen, thank you very much. Here's your next dealer, Suck Johnson!" The table roars with laughter and he gets about fifty bucks in hand-ins from the punters.

So he gets called into the office.

"You know why you're here?"
"No."
"One of the dealers tells me you were referring to her inappropriately on the game."
"Suck Johnson? What because I used her last name?"
"IT'S PRONOUNCED SUK!"
"WELL I DON'T SPEAK KOREAN!"
"Oh just get out of here."

To this day, the phrase "I don't speak Korean!" has become a punchline in our household.
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08-20-2010 , 11:33 AM
Rofl that's phenomenal. Great stories and advice itt.
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08-20-2010 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
A million of them. This one really has to be told in the first person, but I'll try to do it justice for him.

Heard this one from a 30+ year veteran of the business. He's in his 20s dealing in vegas. This would have been in the 70s.

He's dealing blackjack one day.

Next dealer to push him out was one of these Korean girls who married a G.I. back during the war. Her name? Suk (rhymes with Luke.) Unfortunately for her, it didn't match up well with her last name.

"Alright gentlemen, thank you very much. Here's your next dealer, Suck Johnson!" The table roars with laughter and he gets about fifty bucks in hand-ins from the punters.

So he gets called into the office.

"You know why you're here?"
"No."
"One of the dealers tells me you were referring to her inappropriately on the game."
"Suck Johnson? What because I used her last name?"
"IT'S PRONOUNCED SUK!"
"WELL I DON'T SPEAK KOREAN!"
"Oh just get out of here."

To this day, the phrase "I don't speak Korean!" has become a punchline in our household.
I worked in a room where we had a regular player named Phat Ho.
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08-20-2010 , 12:30 PM
I didn't know "Johnson" was a slang term in the 70's. I can't think of a single example of hearing it in a 70's movie.
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08-20-2010 , 12:43 PM
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I didn't know "Johnson" was a slang term in the 70's. I can't think of a single example of hearing it in a 70's movie.
There is a funny scene in "Police Academy" that uses this slang.

"There were Johnsons as far as the eye could see."
"Excuse me, sir"
"You know, 'Johnsons'" points at his man regions.
"Oh, yes and what a lovely sight to see" awkward silence.
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08-20-2010 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
I didn't know "Johnson" was a slang term in the 70's. I can't think of a single example of hearing it in a 70's movie.
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Originally Posted by The Big K
There is a funny scene in "Police Academy" that uses this slang.

"There were Johnsons as far as the eye could see."
"Excuse me, sir"
"You know, 'Johnsons'" points at his man regions.
"Oh, yes and what a lovely sight to see" awkward silence.
Police Academy movies were from the '80s.
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08-20-2010 , 01:27 PM
The term Johnson actually seems like it would have derived in the 50's or so.

Apparently may have started back in the 19th century.

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/508763
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08-20-2010 , 03:57 PM
If we really have to nit it up, it's possible the story occurred in the 80s guys.
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08-23-2010 , 06:21 AM
No cool dealer stories this weekend?
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08-23-2010 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter
No cool dealer stories this weekend?

Sorry nothing cool this weekend. crappy time instead some ******* threw cards at my face.
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08-23-2010 , 12:34 PM
There's nowhere else to post this story, so since I actually heard it in the break room, I'll put it here. It's easiest to tell this story in the first person, so realize that the "I" in the story is not me:

I was over at [insert name of racetrack that has poker] playing in a cash game. A dealer walking past the table asked the dealer in our game, "You're in, right?" Our dealer replied, "Hell yeah, give me $20 on it."

This mysterious exchange naturally piqued our interests, so we all immediately started to interrogate the dealer to see what was "on".

He explained that one of the dealers had a hot tip on a horse (knew the trainer or something), and they were all going to bet on it.

Guess what our next question was?
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"WHAT HORSE????"


Churchill Downs, "Larry Bird". Really? The horse is named Larry Bird? "No, but he's #33. Three horse, third race." Well, that's an easy way to remember it. The dealer added, "He should go off at about ten-to-one."

Naturally, we pester the floorman to put Churchill on one of the tv's next to our table. I decide what the hell, I'll throw $10 on it. I told my brother, who was playing on another table, and he also planned on throwing away $10 on this silliness.

The third race goes to post. It turns out that I'm the only player at our table to actually bet money on this race, but everyone at the table is rooting for us.

They opened the starting gate, and our Larry Bird dominated just like the real LB used to. The three horse led by daylight all the way around the track, winning easily by about ten lengths. A thoroughly, completely dominating performance, he absolutely mopped the floor with his competition.

Our whole table was whooping and hollering throughout, all the other tables looked over at us quizzically.

Naturally, my next concern was if my brother got the bet down for us. He came over shortly after the race, all smiles, alleviating my concerns. "But that horse didn't pay ten-to-one. He paid THIRTY-to-one!", and my brother handed me $310.

Everyone is smiling now...except the dealer. He's not seeing any other dealers smiling, he's not hearing any cheering from the break room. He's completely distracted, paying no attention to the poker game, dealing completely on auto-pilot.

Finally, his tipster walks casually past the table again. Our dealer, confused and desperate, calls out, "You put the bet in, right?"

The tipster looks confused. "Not yet. I can't bet the horse until Friday, the day of the race."
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