I assume he means there is no such thing as "free."

Sandman is correct.

They're hiring dealers for a few locations in southern Ontario/greater Toronto area. Every room in the province pools pit & poker though, no strictly poker spots.

If anyone is looking to FT floor in the best room I’ve ever worked in, please PM me. We offer “free” benefits too.


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1) I posted in two spots (here and tipping) .. hardly spamming. Although I did do a full breakdown of the advertisement in the local (West Michigan Poker) thread.
2) Lots of folks are looking for a change of pace, this is one that you could put some thought into before acting on. Getting in on the ground floor at a new location might be something to look at.

3) I thought their wording was cleverly put using 'full time' and 'up to', which are phrases that some my not consider when applying. Not knowing that it could be starting in the pits before poker and, more importantly, part time may surprise some once they go through all the 'trouble' of Dealer school. Not to mention the 'free' health care ... (You said what are my deductibles and co-pays?!!)
4) Sure, I want to recruit. Although any casino should look to promote from within I would hope that pure skill might over-rule that in the long run ... which is better for my goal, good Dealers keeping the game moving along while I'm putting in my hours at the table. GL

It is my considered opinion that this is NOT the place to come job-recruiting. Google is just a click away, if you're looking for a change of scenery.

To be clear, I'm fine with general observations on the job market. For example, my place has seen a LOT of poker dealers transfer over to table games, over the past year or two...and none of them ever regret it, and come back to poker. They're happier over there, AND they make more money.

I wish I had the guts. But I know I can't handle the ups and downs, the way I used to. Give me one down where I make $0, and it ruins my week, emotionally--I'm sure those guys pitch shutout-innings every night over there. I see them cash out $60 one night, $600 the next, and my heart goes into palpitations at the thought of my living being so whimsical.

There is a new guy that has started coming in our room daily to play 1/2 and 1/3. He reportedly came in from Colorado. He regularly looks like he keeps his clothes wadded up in his backseat before putting them on to play in our room, but his most recent outfit was not even up to that level.

A New England Patriots onesie with sandals and a jacket.

Sorry to drag this out of the mire over a month later, but I thought of you, YTF, when I saw him.

these backwater american poker rooms sure do have some funny stories. i never see any of this gross stuff in our cdn rooms

i mean i guess its for the best but its boring, everyone too polite i guess!

I have never worked in the pit.

But...

If I had the ability to snap my fingers and have a full time job in the pit with my same schedule and seniority, it would have been done yesterday. But I have no desire to go to graveyard *at all*. I've tried it twice and both times it made me hate my life.

Please expand on why? Is it just a grass is always greener thing? Do I really tip that much out in the pits?

I would shoot myself in the head before I would would spend hours dealing blackjack. If I had to deal in the pit ... I could tolerate dice.... But I would never be very good at it.

Plus I have only worked in places where poker is the better job financially (on an hourly basis).

Yeah, same here. I have only worked in places that pool table game tips and poker dealers keep their own. The toke rate is always a lot less, even taking into account up-downs which are common in the small room I work at PT now.

I am not officially trained in any games. I dealt blackjack and did roulette for casino parties and probably could be passable - more so with blackjack - but I have zero desire to do that. The relatively small amount of grief I get from players about how they never win a pot with me dealing is magnified a hundred times when I am taking their money myself.

STIFF: (just lost on the river) Dealer, why did you give him his 2-outer?

WINNER: (tips me)

YTF: (holds up toke) THIS is why!

How did he handle that very deserved ribbing? I mean over the laughter from everyone else at the table.

Had a guy the other day giving me thumbs up as his checking motion ...definitely the weirdest one I've seen.

PLAYER: (starts to count out a call, then pulls his chips back) How much IS that?

YTF: I don't know... but you just called it!

Pretended not to hear me.

He even stiffed you on the joke.

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SB: Why not? (limps)

BB: Raise.

YTF: That's why not!

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PLAYER: I'm going to move to the 8-seat.

OTHER PLAYER: You can't, it's a kill pot, you can't move out of the blind during a kill pot.

YTF: The blind can move. The player posting the kill, cannot.

NATE THE NIT: (weighs in with his opinion, too, but I never listen to him)

OTHER PLAYER: (to Nate the Nit) Why don't you ask the floor?

NATE THE NIT: Meh. I ask them enough stupid questions.

YTF: (dying) Yeah, Nate has to save his stupid questions for when they count! OMG. I can't even....

(It was the first time in my life, tho, that I heard a poker player willing to drop something because it wasn't worth arguing about. I would have laid some mighty-long odds against this guy, of all guys, ending that streak.)

Our room just hired a bunch of break-in dealers, for the first time ever. I pushed one out of the O/8 game tonight, and as you can imagine, the players had something to say. You need $60 in the pot to trigger the kill in this game, and it seems this guy was routinely shipping the kill button without having any idea how much was in the pot. The final time, they quizzed the dealer on how much was in the pot, and he didn't know.

GRUMPY: All ya gotta do is count to 60. How hard can that be?

DECENT PERSON: Well, when you're new, this game can be kinda overwhelming.

GRUMPY: He's not that new! He's been here a while now!

DECENT PERSON: A month?

YTF: If that.

GRUMPY: Still!

("Still!"??? Sure, Grumpy, I'm sure in your career, you had it all mastered in your first month.)

GRUMPY: I asked him how much was in the pot, and he said "more than $60". There was $48 in there.

HAPPY PLAYER: He was bluffing! He tried to bluff Grumpy!

(everyone is laughing now)

ANOTHER PLAYER: Yeah, if he's going to lie, he should have said a specific number!

HAPPY PLAYER: That would be his Continuation Lie! "Over $60" was his preflop lie, then "$72" could've been his C-Lie!

(later in the down, I pushed a $66 pot to Grumpy, along with the Kill button)

GRUMPY: How much is in this one?

HAPPY PLAYER: Aw, c'mon, this is YTF we're talking about here.

GRUMPY: I just want to know how much was in there.

YTF: I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone who asks that when I give them the Kill button: "I'll give you $60 for it, right now!"

GRUMPY: (relents) Yeah, we haven't caught YTF wrong yet.

(soon after, I push a $54 pot to the biggest stiff in the room. I did not give him the Kill button)

HAPPY PLAYER: He'll sell it to you for $60!

YTF: Did you see his body tense up when I pushed him the pot? He was all set to argue that this wasn't a kill!

(Stiff gonna stiff, and he stiffed me the entire down...but when I got pushed, he tossed a couple bucks and gave me a "Good job!". That's something, anyways.)

I'm sure I've told this story before but my favorite argument about whether a pot was big enough for a kill went like this.

I push $56 pot (so even after rake it was more than the $50 required for the kil)l along with the kill button.

Player immediately combines the pit with his own stack and throws the kill button back.

I toss it back to him announcing "It's a kill." He tells me it wasn't $50. I tell him it was $56. He says there is no way that was $50. I recount to him all the action on each street along with a running count of the pot size. Everyone at the table including him agrees that I have recited the action correctly.

So he says " well then I don't know what you did with the rest of the pot because what you pushed to me was certainly not $50"

I compare this to the WSOP coverage or any other coverage where the announcers 'need' to say 'something' that sounds good to the audience ...

"He rakes in a pot of over $1MILLION DOLLARS" ... Uh, no .. He raked in a pot with a net gain of $275K in chips since he over-shoved the Turn with his $800K remaining stack. AND it's not dollars .. it's chips until you bust or win!

And the classic on your local sports show ... "It's the first time they've made the Playoffs since 2016!" How exciting, they must have been really bummed about not making the post-season last year.

Players constantly forget that most of a poker pot is their own chips, especially when the Dealer combines the pot with an uncalled bet. GL

Well I've been looking for a polite way to say "I'm the one that counted it. You're the one staring at your phone the whole hand. Now shut the **** up." for a long time now. Looks like this is the way.

This is a big reason why I don't leave the stacks in front of the players during a heads-up pot. If it's a scoop, the scooper grabs back his $24, then counts what I push him and says, "This isn't $60!" Tell him he already pulled back $24, and he doesn't believe you. All he sees is the pile of chips you shipped him, and nothing you say will change his mind. Give him an indisputable rundown of the action, street by street, and it bounces right off him--he can't process it, because it doesn't jibe with the physical evidence laying in front of him.

"Why don't you leave the bets in front of them? It's quicker."

"No. It's not."

There are very few players in our room I feel comfortable leaving the bets in front of.