If I'm the dealer i certainly don't want you complaining to my boss. I would rather you said something to me away from the table.

That doesn't mean thats what you should do .... but since you asked what I would prefer If I was that dealer I answered in that way.

You run into all kinds in a poker room.

I was standing behind the dealers chair, waiting for the hand in progress to end so I could push into the table. It was a 1/2 game very close to the front desk.

I noticed that seat 1 was empty and I checked the board but there was no list for 1/2.

Just then, a prospective player walked up between the table and the front desk and asked me if he could get a seat at a 1/2 game?

"I have a 1/2 seat right here sir." and pointed to seat 1. We made eye contact.

The would be player then turned to the board person sitting at the front desk and said "Is there an empty 1/2 seat I can get into?" The board person looked at me and said "Is that seat empty?" (It was 8 feet from the board person. He heard the conversation)

"Yes." I said.

"There's a seat for you sir."

The wanna be player walks around the table, steps right next to me, looks at the empty seat and says "What game is this?"

I wanted to say 3/6 stud.

I wanted to take him to an empty table and play HU with him.

I thought about telling him the seat was reserved.

I smiled and said "1/2" he sat down, played 3 hands then went to a 2/5 game right after felting a player.

How he found the casino, much less the poker room is beyond me.

I don't know if this is a myth or a real story but it's a story of some type.

Supposedly, in another casino, they allow BJ players to play on top of another hand if there are no empty seats. Player A has the sat, he gets to decide how the hand is played. Player B stands behind him and places a bet beside Player A and takes the chance that Player A will make the right choices.

Sometimes, Player B will tell Player A how stupid he is for hitting when Player B thinks Player A should have stood. This can cause friction.

Supposedly, Player A is getting tired of Player B criticizing his play. A hand comes up where Player A is dealt K,K.

Dealer is showing a 6.

Player A has been betting $25 while Player B has been betting $200.

Player A turns to Player B and says.

"Give me $100 right now or I'm going to take a card."

"You can't do that." Player B screams.

"Yes I can, can't I dealer?"

"Yes sir but that would be a bad play." the dealer says.

"$100 now, cash."

Player B pays him. Player A signals he will stand.

Dealer has 16, hits and catches a 5.

holy ****.

Yeah, that's a very common myth/story. Just like the "omg woman mucked the bad beat intentionally because a kid was a jerk" story. They're all part of casino lore. I'm sure something similar enough has happened to warrant the story. The 16 hit to a 21 part is new to me.

I usually wonder if I'm speaking english at least once a week.

That's how they play blackjack in the Netherlands. There are in fact four betting spots behind eachother for every seat:
This way, up to four people can play the same hand. Often, players that are already playing will place bets behind the bets of other players at the table.

Solid gold line haha

Yeah in the UK multiple people betting on boxes is not uncommon, whoevers box it is gets all control

Meaning, the player should really report the dealer?

I actually DO touch random player's chips, and sometimes in their stack! That's to post their blind, if they are tied up.. and I let them know I'm doing it, or did it. Then, if it seems to upset them in some way, I'll know not to.

I'm just a helpful player. Feelin' my luv??

For the push-in, I'll usually try to use the flat hand edge push technique, so I'm not actually picking up any chips. And, I'll flip the hand after, to show the cameras I'm not palming.
I'll only do that for the table ends, when the dealer's reach is short. Often the betting lines, or 'standard' chip placement is not a comfortable reach for anyone under 6' or so.


+1.
When I move the button, I almost always yell out as well... and when it moves to my button, I put a chip on top of it, in case the dealer missed my announcement.
This can backfire sometimes- since I can't put a chip on the button when it's not in front of my seat, the dealer can sometimes get used to the visual cue and tries to move the button again. So, I generally should limit myself to moving it to my seat.

If I pick up a vibe from the dealer, I'll often say something such as "Just tell me if you don't want me to do something"... and I don't get offended if they're a bit short with me, the first time they react.

Mostly they quickly realize that I'm just trying to help, not screw with the game...... and, since I'm a steady tipper, and tip a little larger than the minimum for my bigger pots, I'm usually forgiven.

Not necessarily. It seems the player feels he has a something of a relationship with the dealers in the room and that may make it appropriate to address it directly with the dealer away from the box. If he thinks that doing so will be received well.

+1 right back at you sir, haha

as far as your other question for the actual dealers, tell him straight out how you feel before it becomes a problem with other players thinking that you have some inside information passing gong on

1) I cannot speak for all, I prefer players do not push chips in towards the middle. I may on occasion ask for a specific bet be pushed closer, but i will ask the player who placed the bet. Once chips are in the center players shouldn't be handling them.

2) Yes. It breaks a rhythm, if you are going to do it, at least make sure the dealer hears..."dealer button moved" . in a 4/8 game once after a hand, the button seemed curiously out of position, by seat 5..."did someone move the button?" i asked ( i though it was in seat one and was supposed to be in seat two) Seat 2 3 and 4 all raise their hand..."stop helping me please "

3) One thing that i think many player DON'T do that they should, is pay attention to what the dealer is saying, LISTEN. There is a LOAD of information be relayed by the dealer that is pertinent to the game.
Straddle is on, seat x is 300 behind, bet raise re-raise cap...etc etc

3a) Do not try to table captain or run the game in any manner, you are not helping, and often slowing down the game by adding noise. Ive been dealing full time for 18 years, and i run a game well, there are very few things a player can do to assist me at any given time. I will happily accept constructive criticism or observations if offered, but do it away from the table.
( your mileage may vary , some dealers need the help, just be aware of who is dealing and hold your horse if its obvious the dealer knows what they are doing. In any case always point out a critical mistake so it can be correctly immediately.)

3b) Do not read hands "for" the dealer. Ive seen this happen on occasion where the player is wrong, it can get ugly.

I'm not a dealer, but...

In a tourney, combining the antes of 2 or 3 people because someone needs change. It always slows down the game because the dealer needs to stop and figure out what is going on. Just put your oversized chip out there and let the dealer do their job.

Ive heard that story is different variations as well.

This is from personal experience:
I was dealing a 1-3 stud game on a riverboat many years ago, one particular player was agitated and getting worse through my down and he was becoming more vocal, insinuating that i was manipulating the games so he would lose.
About 20 minutes in, he finally broke, "your doing this to me on purpose, you want me to lose you pice of &*%3".

So, i stopped and i said, "Sir, obviously you think that i have some hand in the fact that you are losing..." This is where he says "Yes, i thing you are doing something so that i will lose".
"Ok, im sorry you feel that way, but i want you to consider something."
"what??"
"IF, in fact i could manipulate the game,why in the world would you want to piss me off?"

His face went blank, he just started at me for a second or two and never said another word.

Question for the dealers:

I play a lot of 2/5 where there is a lot of red chips in play. During large pots, I've seen bets handled differently by different dealers. Say there is a bet of 200 and a call, some dealers pull the stacks in to the pot (after verifying the amount) but leave them in stacks of $100. After showdown, they slide the stacks to the winner.

Other dealers will pull the stacks in and drop them into the pile of chips already in the pot. Then just push the huge pile to the winner.

Was curious as to the reasoning or preference for each way. Is it a dealer specific thing or maybe rules of the room?

More dealers added comments and it seems as though "helping the dealer" is a bad phrase. A better phrase might be "keeping the pace of the game high." However, one thing that seemingly rings true with all of the dealers who have responded is that no one should touch anything unless the dealers knows it is happening and is OK with it happening...that and don't piss off (or on) the dealers.

And 2+3, I believe that TECHNICALLY they are supposed to topple the stacks because you aren't technically supposed to allow players to count the pot when making a decision technically. However, if it is a heads up pot and big stacks are bet, I am sure veteran dealers would not get in trouble with leaving the stacks up...technically speaking of course.

Headed to mohegan sun this weekend to "cash in" on the tourney bust outs...ill most likely be wearing a mets, jets or rangers jersey...sup bros welcome

Different rules for different rooms maybe?

Once I've confirmed the bets are the same I will either pull the stacks in and push them over or leave them in front of the players, especially if a player is all in.

If it looks like there is a split pot coming, I may leave the stacks in front of the players.

If the stacks get pulled in, unless it's a high/low game, they should be pushed over


HELPING THE DEALER...

Most of the time, it's welcome, helpful and appreciated. Sometimes it's just a PITA.

The times I have a problem with it is when they try to make change in a tournament. Sometimes it's great when a player owes 1 black and puts out a purple, the guy next to him gives him 5 blacks for the purple and the ante/bet is left out there without disturbing anyone else's antes or bets. That's fine but if they decide to use someone's ante to make change and as I pull them in I don;t have 10 ante's, now I'm going to spend more time figuring out what happened than I would have making change myself.

Makes sense for sure - hopefully this topic has run its course, lol

Is it true that the higher limit the game, the less amount tipped? Or is it just the same as lower limits?

No one who is a dealer wants this to become a tipping thread.

This.

Please stop all tipping theory posts. Save it for the other 34920371234897321 threads created on this forum about it.

The traditional rules say "don't stack the pot, blah blah blah." This means do not take time to stack the pot. If chips are stacked, you can leave them stacked if you want. It is usually preferable to leave them stacked in big bet games so that everyone can see the bets are right, etc. Sometimes it is easier to leave them stacked. Sometimes it is not. If they are confirmed stacks of $100 in red, I'm normally leaving them stacked when sliding them into the pot.

Interesting theory. How long have you been dealing?

Are you asking how long he's been dealing, technically?

technically I'm asking about his technical dealing, yes.

"Not allow players to count the pot." That was a good one. Very amusing. That's why they place all bets in a huge box and cover it with a blanket between rounds of betting.