Hey man, you want the regs changed, call up Matt Savage or anyone else at the Poker TDA and lobby for it. I don't see the need myself, I think the rules are plenty fair, but knock yourself out.

??? I don't think I said anything about lobbying or wanting it changed. The discussion was about if the rule is needed for fairness or exists just from inertia. I don't think the current rule is unfair, but it is inconsistent for no actual good reason. If I have 375,000 at 500/1000 and bet 374,000, the dealer has to count it, but if I bet it all, they can't.

Got a craps table set up in the back right by our lockers for training dice dealers.

It's fun shooting dice with the boys on break, or give my best effort working stick.

You learning dice to deal?
Or just simple messing around with table games dealers while they learn?


If ya need some tips on certain shortcuts on center bets, I might have some keys for ya!

The second one.

I'm confused.

The dealers shouldn't be counting out your 374,000 unless

a) the action is on a player who asked for a count of your chips
b) you announced "374,000" and the dealer is confirming the amount.
c) the dealer is speeding up the game by counting out your bet without being asked

(c is invalid)

TDA rules are that all bets (other than all-in bets) should be counted and announced by dealers.

This is a 'Recommended Procedure' added in 2019 .. RP-12

It's way at the bottom of the listings .. GL

Where I worked when that came out they had us announce all bets except all ins for both tourneys and cash games.

Dealing the final table of a mini-survivor tournament. Nine players with the top 8 getting $1000 and the ninth getting the leftovers ($110 which covers the buyin). One player has just enough to cover two BBs, two BB antes, and one small blind and is UTG. He will literally be all in one round and one hand from now. Everyone else has at least 15 BB left.

UTG small stack folds. Next player who has the 2nd most chips goes all in. Folds to the button who has the 3rd most chips. He calls. Blinds fold.. UTG + 1 turns over QQ. Button turns over AK offsuit. I run out the board. QQ holds. Tournament ends. AK gets the boobie prize (his buy in back) and everyone else (including the short stack) gets $1000.

The whole time the payouts are being done, AK keeps whining that he had AK and had to call. He even starts saying stupid stuff like he has a solver on his phone and it says to call. No one else corrects him and everyone is silent the whole time. As the short stack is getting paid his $1000 he looks up and says his birthday isn't in October, but he appreciates the birthday present. Everyone nervously chuckles except AK who starts in again about how it is the correct move to call there.

Sigh.

There is a guy who listens to the radio broadcast of Local Team's game that's on all the TV screens.

The radio broadcast is 15 seconds or so ahead of the TV feed.

This guy loudly claps and cheers in the room whenever Local Team makes a big play 15 seconds before everyone else has a chance to see it.

I am absolutely amazed that this guy has not had the **** kicked out of him yet.

wtf lmao how has he not gotten his ass kicked a dozen times, thats too funny I'd lose my mind

$2/$5 game. Two players heads up with about $200 in the pot. Board is K, 4, 5, 7, 8 (suits irrelevant). 1st player shoves all in for over $500. Player 2 tanks for over 2 minutes. Multiple times he holds his cards so myself and other players can see he has pocket 10s. It gets to be ridiculous and I am thinking someone has to call clock soon. I haven't been at the table long, but Player 1 hasn't really gotten out of line yet and I can't imagine what player 2 thinks he is beating. This should be an easy fold. Another minute goes by. Eventually Player 2 throws a chip forward. I announce "call". Player one turns over his cards and shows pocket 6s. Player 2 holds on to his cards as I start to count his chips. He is covered by Player 1, but he is still holding his cards as he moans about how lucky Player 1 is. As he is crying, another player (who saw Player 2's hand) tells me to push the pot and get on with it. I point to Player 2 still holding his cards. I ask him what he is going to do with his cards. Obviously I do not want to ask him to turn them over or muck (in case I read them wrong), but we need to move on. Finally he releases them I push the pot and get ready to move on.

Player 2 has no more money, so he stands up and announces "Open seat". So I take him out of Bravo and start to deal the next hand. After a hand or two, another player decides to move into the now empty seat, another player moves as well, and a new player shows up and we again have a full table.

A few minutes later the busted player shows back up and looks confused looking for his seat. He asks why someone is sitting in his seat. I tell him that he said "Open seat" so I marked it as open. He then starts arguing with me saying that he said he was coming back. I start a mini-panic in my mind wondering if I misunderstood him, but I play back the scene in my mind and he pretty clearly said open seat. While he is arguing with me two other players speak up and tell him that he said open seat. I am greatly relieved to know I did not misunderstand him. He continues to argue that he said that he was coming back so I tell him that I will get a floor to handle it. I call for a floor.

Floor comes over and before I can even speak, the guy starts in on the floor and says "This stupid dealer gave away my seat when I busted when I clearly told him I was coming back by saying "Open seat". I interject and say that the player did say "open seat" when he busted.

The floor turns to the player and tells him to relax that this is easily solvable that the player can sit at another $2/$5 game that just got an opening bypassing everyone on the list.

That doesn't satisfy the player though. He now starts dropping F bombs and accusing me of screwing him. The floor asks the player to tone it down stating that I did nothing wrong and he should stop blaming me. He says he can have the other open seat and he will move him to this table as soon as a seat opens up.

The player then starts swearing at the floorman. The floorman asks him to stop otherwise he will be asked to leave. He continues so the floorman tells the player that he has to leave the poker room and is not allowed to play here for the next 24 hours. The man continues to swear, and the floor tells him the next step is to call security. So the man then leaves.

Of course for the next few hands everyone is buzzing how the guy went crazy. Everyone at the table agreed that he said open seat (which he openly admitted to the floorman). A few minutes later, a reg who had been nursing a short stack of about $100 tries to squeeze an early raise and a couple of callers. The early raiser re-raises and the other fold. The reg sheepishly turns over 10-7 offsuit and the raisers kings hold up. As the reg gets up he turns to me and says "Open seat". I start laughing and ask him what that means. I ask if he is coming back or not. He laughs and says "figure it out" and walks away.

I am at a $1/$3 table. At the table there is a player who openly admits that this is his 1st time in a casino. In fact he says that he has only played a few times at a friend's house. It is quite clear he has absolutely no idea what he is doing. He makes numerous mistakes and to their credit, everyone else at the table is very understanding and tries to help him out. They let his take back a few chips when he did not realize there was a raise in front of him. They even explain to him that he can freely check when he is in the big blind and limped to him and he throws his cards in.

On one hand he opens by limping from the cutoff and everyone else folds while the BB checks. I scoop the $7 into the pot. The flop comes 3s 8h Kd. Both players check. Turn is 4s and both players check. River is 8s. Big blind leads out for $10. Newb immediately shoves all in for about $500. I do a double take, and immediately ask the player to clarify what he said. He says that he want to go all in. I put the all in button in front of him and look at the Big Blind.

A side note on the big blind. She is a reg, a 50ish year old woman who is an excellent player. She could easily play (and win) at higher levels. For whatever reason she is happy to play $1/$3 but just crushes it. I rarely see her leave down and more often than not she has $1000 plus in front of her. She is also one of the nicest people I have ever met. She handles bad beats with a of the grace in the world and always makes other players feel happy even when they are losing to her. She is a shark, but more importantly she is all around 1st and foremost a class act.

Anyway, when the newb shoves she starts laughing. She sort of flashes me her cards. She has As 6s. She is smiling as she replays the hand. She has the nut flush on a paired board while an obvious newbie shoves $500 into her with $7 + $10 +$10 =$27 officially in the pot.

She goes back and forth and thinks for a few. She then shows the newb her hand while making it clear she is not yet calling. He doesn't obviously react, but he does lean back in his chair and relaxes. To someone skilled in reading amateurs, it is obvious he is comfortable with his hand. She thinks some more and folds. He immediately turns over pocket Kings. She congratulates him on his hand.

For the next few hands the table discusses the hand and a few of the more vocal players tells the newb that he should only have raised to $60 of so and maybe she will have called.

Anyways I found it interesting for many reasons. One, it was a situation one rarely sees (a $500 bet into a $27 pot), but it was also a clear glimpse into the predatory nature of poker.

Our local dragon lady (what everyone calls her) used to hate me just like she hates almost everyone. She dumps $500-2000 at 1-2nl every time she walks in. It's always a combination of the dealer's fault and the other players not folding when she thinks they should have. She rarely tips and can get really nasty. She got a 6 month ban at one point for attempting some sort of angle and screaming at the floor who didn't fall for it.

Some time after we re-opened she completely changed her tune and decided she loves me. She's downright bubbly when I'm at the table and refers to me as her upstairs boyfriend. She has one downstairs in the pits too. She is always showing me pictures on her phone and joking around with me, or at least I think she is in her broken English. She'll get momentarily upset with me when she doesn't hit her gutshot or whatever, but it passes quickly. She's still nasty to everyone else.

I do like that she's tipping me and not yelling but it's still uncomfortable. I don't know what I did to deserve it and fear it will end at any moment.

Sexy time?

Classic Player .. 5/5 PLO and in for 4-5 BI, including one shorty allowed by the room. Has worked his way up to about 3 BI in stack and gets caught up in a monotone Flop with blank, blank River by c/c Flop and Turn and is now facing an all-in on River from a Player he covers. After lots of tanking he declares 'Well, if I call I'll still have some chips and this is all profit right now .. I call'

Player scoops with 78 high flush, missing a gutter to a SF on Turn and River but calling anyway with 'profit'

I'm not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing that he considers each 'starting stack' in cash as it's own entity as far a profit goes ... GL

Like when I golf and restart hole one after my first bogey

DNegs actually had that built into his 'break 80' golf bet years ago I believe. If he was playing and had a bad hole, he could reset the starting hole no matter where he was on the course. Not sure how they worked that out with witnesses, but I'll be surprised if I don't remember this correctly. GL

Just finished up my first experience with LA poker after a 4 day trip, and I gotta say as a whole those were the worst dealers I’ve ever seen (5 different rooms, 5/5 NL, late swing/early grave hours fwiw)

No real mistakes other than missed checks and miscounting bets (although there were plenty of mistakes at the nearby smaller limit tables, there were floor calls and arguments seemingly every hour or so), but what really made it bad was the extremely slow speed and that so many dealers put almost zero effort into keeping the game moving. Preflop was especially tilting, so many people not paying attention and dealers not letting them know it’s on them.

Also the amount of rabbit hunting is absurd. It happened at every room I played at, someone just reaches into the stub after the hand is over and checks whatever the hell they want to check for, and the good and bad dealers alike never said anything, neither did any of the other players. I guess that’s just a thing in LA, huh?

QQ is borderline a fold in that situation lol

Not even borderline. Fold >>>>>>>>>> min-open >>>>....>>> shove

Yes, I should correct this

AA is borderline a fold lol

Yes. When the tournament was down to 12 or 13 people, the chip leader (with about 30% of the chips in play) would disappear for a rotation or two, come back fold a hand or two, and then disappear for a rotation again. One of the times he was back, someone commented to him that he was losing his blinds. His response was "So?". Afterwards when everyone was being paid out, he said that the reason he disappeared was because he wanted to resist temptation to do something stupid. He would play a couple of hands and get a decent hand and feel the temptation to play it so then he would walk away from the table for a while. There was literally no reason for him to play a hand.

Yea I made the mistake of playing way too loose in a survivor when I had a good chance of making the money before. I ain’t mad at that guy just leaving nonstop makes sense