With double points, the jackpot, and optimal flip strategy, it might be +EV.

I have mixed feelings about this. I don't care that she is getting money. She's a coworker good for her. I might be pissed if I was getting stiffed while she was getting tipped for hanging around ... but that wasn't the case. I'm happy for her.

On the other hand giving a person $60 out of the table stake is an issue for me. Tipping someone is fine, but handing money to women who isn't actually working .... to me is not really different than handing $60 to his friend who isn;t an employee. So unless this is actually a late tip for something she did earlier I feel that he shouldn't be able to take it out of his table stake.

Since I can't really know if this is just a late tip ..... I'm probably going to rais ethe issue with the floor when I am away from the table ..... unless players seem to be objecting then I would have to address it at the table.

Anywhere I have dealt she would not be allowed to accept any money from a player off the clock period!

Employees are usually strictly forbidden to have any type of financial interactions with guests off the clock.

They just fired a dealer for borrowing money from players where I work.

They dont want dealers loan sharking to customers
They dont want players or dealers gettin in too deep too each other could lead to colusion to pay off big debts.
It aslo protects us and gives us an easy I an not allowed to borrow you money answer, as we get asked all the time.

Amazed the floor allowed this standing right there.

Learned this week that at many/most casinos, if a dealer quits his job (for any reason), he is banned from playing as a customer at that same casino for a certain period of time, say 30-90 days. I was told this is a common rule, but I can't figure out why.

I'm sure it has something to do with preventing collusion or cheating, but I can't see the angle. True story? Is this rule just for poker or for any table game?

I have never seen this. What I have seen is that employees who are FIRED are often barred from coming on the premises for a period of time. When my friend was fired for excessive absenteeism he was barred form the premises for 90 days. This wasn't just about gaming.... he couldn't come to the restaurants either. I suspect its more about keeping potential angry ex-employees away and avoiding trouble then it is about concern for collusion and cheating.

When I resigned my position at that same casino, they very specifically made a point of telling me I was welcome on property because I was not involunatrily terminated.

Sure the everywhere I have worked has rules against lending to or borrowing from guests ..... And of course solicting tokes is out of the question, But I have never heard it suggested that accepting a toke handed to you after your shift is over is a problem.

Why? How is he being harmed? He doesn't think for even a moment that maybe he'd be getting a piece of that money if the floor came over and put a stop to it, does he?

He's just jealous, that's why it upsets him. He needs to STFU and get over it.

Happily, both of these questions come with the same answer: Be happy for her, laugh at the "mark" who thinks this is going to lead to sexy time for him; and above all, if the players aren't objecting, why on earth should you/I?

how do they possibly enforce that? they don't, that's how.

A lot of regulated businesses have rules like this. It isn't so much that they are watching to make sure that the employees aren't buying a cheeseburger from the local McDonalds who's owner plays there, but rather a simple way to get rid of an employee where there is a suspicion of a problem.

For example, a dealer is suspected of flashing cards to a player. Surveillance catches the dealer and player in the parking lot exchanging money. Dealer says, "Hey, I was just buying Pokemon cards from the guy, not doing anything wrong," while holding the cards. "You've got to prove I was flashing cards." The dealer can be fired without re-dress.

Pretty much every place I have worked want people who resign to stay away for 30 days and people that are fired for 90 days. I think this is is possibly to keep popular employees from trying to take business to their new job.

That would make sense for management employees. I don't know how concerned they are about us grunts stealing employees.

I should also add that when i was recently laid off from my floor job I was given no restrictions about coming on property.

I have no experience leaving Vega casino. When I left Vegas I moved to LA.

I have heard of the "don't come back for 30 day" rule, but it has not been in place at casinos I've worked at. I've always asked when leaving and they said they don't have that type of stipulation.

The 30 day rule is in effect here.

Recently there were public notices posted concerning some employees in other parts of the casino who were barred for 5 and 10 years for some kind of malfeasance with a customer.

I've seen several public notices posted banning a few specific players and former employees for life.

90 day rule is massively enforced here in Australia. I think it may be 6 months in some casinos. I think it is just to prevent bad situations and possible theft. Doesn't look great if I quit one day and win the Carrib Stud jackpot the next day!

Even if the player giving her the money was her boyfriend/husband/family member, no chips or money should have been taken off the table to hand to her. If he was pulling bills out of his wallet, I don't see a problem with it, but ONLY if she's somehow related to him or he's her boyfriend.

I would think that SHE would be uncomfortable with a player handing her money/chips off the table, no matter what the reason. If he wants to tip her from an earlier hand, he should wait until he's cashed out and then give her something.

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"You obviously don't know women."

EDIT TO ADD: Funny I need to write that on the National Holiday Where Women Gauge Our Love For Them Based On How Much We Spend On Them Today. Or as Bill Maher calls it, "The Flowers for Blow Jobs Exchange Program".

I AM a woman. And also a dealer. I would definitely feel uncomfortable about accepting chips/cash from a player after I've been off the table and clocked out for the day.

I knew when I wrote that there was at least a 50% possibility of that happening.

But I stand by it, sexist as it may be. We don't buy expensive flowers and expensive jewelry because WE like doing it. These things happen because one of the genders tends to equate affection with money, with a large percentage of that gender perfectly happy to take advantage of this by accepting valuable tokens of affection from idiots they feel no affection for themselves.

You know that What People Think I Do / What I Really Do Internet Meme? I made a quick and dirty one for us Poker Dealers. I welcome any better ideas/images/whatever to make this more accutate/funny:

Ha, nice!

(As far as "Low Content" goes, this may be my lowest post ever. You've been warned.)

I push my buddy Chatty Charlie out of a $6-12 limit game. About ten minutes into the down I realize this is going to be a below-average down, tipping-wise, but I don't sweat that stuff, it all evens out in the long run, etc.

A few new players sit down, and I'm trying to arrange the seating, and help the chip runner figure out who needs what, while a hand is in progress. As soon as the hand is over and the pot is pushed, the SB asks me, "Don't I get $1 change for my SB?"

I can't remember what happened three streets ago, but I'm not going to reconstruct the pot over $1. I reach into my rack and toss him a dollar chip. As I start pitching the cards for the next hand, I tell the player who just got the $1, "But next time, could you do me a favor, and point it out BEFORE I push the pot?"

He started stammering out excuses defensively, but in my best "no worries" tone I told him, "Oh no, I'm not blaming YOU. I'm just making excuses." That got a small chuckle from a few players. One piped up, "Most of the dealers here would have asked the winner of the pot for the dollar back, at least you manned up and ate it yourself." Another player chimed in cheerfully, "Yeah, and now he won't shut up about it!"

"It's not the dollar," I explained, "it's the embarrassment of making the mistake."

At this point the girl who won the pot, whom nobody has said a word to nor given a cross look to, says with a smile, "All right already, here's the dollar back!", and flipped me a blue chip. I thanked her and put it in the rack.

Why did I tell this story? What's the point?

You dealers may find it interesting that the tokes started pouring in after this. Maybe this "shut up and deal" stuff is overrated, maybe I need to learn how to talk and deal at the same time--just a little, I don't mean never shut up, I just mean deviate a little from my typical "radio silence" bit.

After that down, I ran into my buddy Chatty Charlie in the break room. He immediately asked me about that table. When I asked why, he told me, "One of the players asked me if I would STFU if they all chipped in $1."

(Don't worry, I'll still Shut Up And Deal in the bigger games.)

Nice story! I like the "I'm just making excuses" line, I'll try to remember that. I find any kind of table control is easier if I humble myself. "Hey boss, could you do me a favor and make sure I can see that you have cards? I don't want to accidentally skip you. Thanks!" Maybe this is obvious to most, but I was socialized weird, to put it mildly, so I'm used to more Spock-like interactions.

As you, I'm also improving on the social side of things. I recently started a new gig, and the reaction I'm getting from staff and customers is far different than I've gotten in the past. It's nice to get better.

I still know nothing about sports. I just can't make myself give a **** about it. I enjoy watching it, but I don't seek it out, so I'm useless in a conversation. "Yeah, I liked the part where they all worked as a team and got the ball where it needed to go. And when it almost didn't work, that was exciting!" I'm getting better at faking my way pretty far in a conversation, tho'. "Oh. Yeah, for sure. No kidding. Oh, I didn't see that one, but probably. Yeah, that's what someone was saying. Ooh, nice!"

What does Valentines day have to do with this? Women are obviously comfortable accepting shows of affection from boyfriends/significant others. But why should that mean they would be comfortable taking them from a stranger.

I'm a male dealer, and I'm happy whenever anybody wants to hand me chips. The more the merrier!