I got a new one. Someone is suing us for $1000 that he lost because we wouldn't let him go south when he switched tables.

Like as in, "I'm gonna sue you guys!" or as in a lawsuit actually legitimately filed?

Either way is amazing of course.

As in a threat 2 weeks after the occasion. My manager talked to him though and is going to smooth it over. Apparently a dealer told him he could when he switched tables. We allow that in a must-move situation, but not in a main-to-main move.

There was a Vegas room (not sure if it’s still the rule there) where if you table changed you had to go to the next table with no more than the table max. Literally a “must go south” policy. Absolutely awful.

A lot of places are like that.

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That’s how it is at most places in so cal, mostly because they really hate deep stack play.

In bigger rooms on the east coast, i.e. Borgata, Maryland Live, Parx and MGM juat to name a few, I have witnessed players do this regularly when they table change and it drives me absolutely insane because nothing is ever done about it!!!

There's been a few thread comments on this in other threads. Hollywood Toledo has that policy. They view it as 'protecting' the table from a deep stack coming in and bullying it. Obviously it a great way for a Player to go south in most eyes. Not sure if there's are time restrictions associated with a request.

Poto (Milwaukee) prohibits existing Players from table changing into a new table for at least an hour. Players may not go south in an effort to sit at one of these tables either. (Obv)

That rule certainly eliminates the need to track a moving stack to make sure it all gets put on the table at the new seat. This has been a major issue is one room I play PLO at to the point where a Floor may resort to a 'tournament move' using racks when a Player leaves the MM table. GL

In my room if you voluntarily change tables you have to go back to game min/max. If coming from a broken game you can move over with less than min or your full stack up to the biggest stack at the new table.

Any must move->main or main->other main you have to take your whole stack.

I don't like this. You essentially allow players to go south voluntarily. If I ramp up a big stack, I just ask for a table change. I think the best policy might be that if you voluntarily move or come from a must move table, you take your whole stack. If we make you move from a broken game, you have the option to take you whole stack or come in with whatever you want within the table limit.

FYI: My rule in my place is that you take your whole stack when you move to a different table of the same limit no matter what.

Well I think in ca the rule is designed to keep the limits highly separate, and because the casinos love short stacked games. Also you tend to see more people that want to keep their stacks and thus stay at the same table.

1) Not sure what you mean in the first line. Limits (stakes?) are already separate in all rooms and I doubt casinos love short stacks since it leads to lots of multi-way all-ins (slower hands w side pots) and more active chip running (labor).

2) I do agree that a 'forced' going south may encourage Players to remain at their table since building a 3-4x stack can take some effort. This is less labor for the Floors that have to deal with the table change requests. GL

For instance, at commerce there is a 40-80 nl with 1/2 blinds, a 100nl with 2/3 blinds, a 200nl with 2/5 blinds, a 300 nl with 3/5 blinds, a 300-600 nl with 5/5 blinds, and a 500-1500 nl with 5/10 blinds. So they don’t want players building big stacks at the smaller tables necessarily.

As far as keeping stacks short, well they think it encourages action and is better for the bad players I guess? I am only speculating because it’s not the way I would structure the games or the buyins. Also since they simply take their share out of the pot at a fixed rate, a short stack game with a ton of limping already gets the max rake out of every hand. They don’t need pots to get to the max rake.

Pretty common really. I agree it sucks but not all agree some like it.

The intent of limiting stacks is (so they think) so that the weaker players don't go completely broke as quickly. More broke players means fewer tables means less rake.

Some of said weaker players regularly manage to go broke quickly anyhow. But it slows them down a little I guess.

deep stacked games are slower than short stacked and its not even close.

the 30 seconds that it takes for the dealer to count out a side pot < 5 minutes of the deep stacked player tanking every time they have a big decision

Just shipped the dealer fantasy football league. PASS THE SUGAR!!!

Sweet! Wp!

Nice. I had to autodraft for mine, and ended up with 7 WRs. Not a great year!

FLOOR! Can you watch the table while I crawl underneath to plug in Jerry's scooter?

Overheard as I was cashing out and day shift was getting the 3-6 limit game going. The average age of the players in the room suddenly jumps about 40 years right around the time I clock out.

Sad what this thread has become. Please delete this post, along with the 2 spam posts ahead of it.

Miss YTF around

Just wanted to pay my respects to YTF...I’ve been away from the forums for about a year and a half, until a couple weeks ago. Been revisiting threads I enjoyed and finally looked this one up and saw it had been renamed. I went back to where I left off but hadn’t realized YTF passed until I logged in from a new source, went to the first page accidentally, and saw the notice. I’m still catching up (about 20 pages back) but I just wanted to give my condolences to everyone here...YTF was a great poster and dealt at one of my locals. RIP and I’ll raise a glass to him tonight. Cheers!

Funny one that I witnessed while playing. Not sure I agree with the dealer’s tactics but I respect the moxy.

So guy wins couple of huge hands in a row. Doesn’t tip, and of course follows both hands with a speech (played both hands super passively and turned over a set both times, one of them in a set over set situation). Then he has pocket queens and 3bet someone (this is limit) and a maniac 4bets him with fives and spikes a five on the turn.

The guy is upset and begins talking loudly to his friend at the table in arabic, all while shooting dirty looks at the dealer and making hand gestures. To be fair, I know the guy and don’t think he was saying anything about her personally, but he was definitely being aggressive, loud, and shooting her dirty looks.

So the dealer say this (starting quietly and then getting louder as she talks): “You’re blaming me...? You’re blaming me? You just won two big pots and now you want to get mad at me? This gentleman lost all those hands and didn’t say nothing. And now you want to get mad at me? Please.”

So the guy that won laughed and said “true” and tossed her a couple bucks.

Then the guy that lost says, “of course I blame you. You are my enemy! Why wouldn’t I blame you?”

She responds, “sir, I have nothing to do with what cards come out. I’m just doing my job.”

So the guy is just seething and muttering things under his breath about her wanting to cause trouble with him. Meanwhile I make eye contact with the winner and he thinks it’s hilarious. Honestly I thought that dealer was rude before this incident but I can tell now she is just frustrated by the rude douches that populate Los Angeles casinos. And he could not say **** because she wasn’t wrong, that’s for sure. Anyone with a brain would realize that

Any one work in a room where it's an honor system as to what you've earned in cash tips each day so far as reporting to the IRS is concerned?

Example: I work 8 hours on Wedneday. I have $185 in my tip box when I cash out. I am allowed to claim 0-180 in regards to letting the IRS know.

What's your standard if you are in this spot? I'm thinking 2/3-3/4 of what I make each day is more thab fair.

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