Me either. Did he go by Bobby in real life?

Yes. None of the dealers who worked with him or players where he dealt knew him as YTF.

He went as Bobby. When I write my summary, it will include where YTF came from (If you did deep enough, it is posted somewhere on 2+2).

My day yesterday:

I signed the EO list, but I had no big hopes as we have big high hand promos on Saturdays and I was near the bottom of the list.

I had to call the floor zero times.
I had to ask players not to fold out of turn or discuss the cards zero times.
I had to ask two players to speak English only while the cards were out one time. They complied.
One player on a 5-10 table consistently stiffed me regardless of the size of the pot. I received a buck or two for every other significant pot that I pushed for the rest of the night. I also received a buck multiple times on 1-2 tables when the pot was $10 or less.
Nobody told me a bad beat story.
Nobody bitched about the crappy cards I kept giving them.
My EO came in and I left 2 hours early.

This is just a reminder that miracles do happen.

Funny, I was thinking about how I got "screwed" out of a few downs, but in retrospect my Saturday night was actually quite good. Very few conflicts of any kind, no floor calls, only had to invoke English Only 3 times which is very low for a Saturday and all complied, and I had my second best tip night ever. 5-10 was the best table tonight, it's usually the worst.

And then you woke up and had to get ready for work?

Not sure if it was an EO or just the 'go home' short stick, but one of our Dealers parlayed it into 'winning' our PLO BBJ on Saturday ($20K). It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the chatter to die down .. and I will be watching the tips at the PLO table to see if there's any collateral damage mentally.

There was another off duty Dealer at the table who got a table share as well. Obviously those at the table didn't mind one bit having a little 'rake back' at the table when the hand played out. GL

Tapping into a 1/3 game, I see a maniac (great tipper) with KT turned face up in front of him asking the other guy if he should call the all-in for his gutshot (AQ5 board) other guy is stone-faced...as this is going on, they call the maniac for 2/5, I guess that was all he needed to call the shove as he now calls (~150 bet into a 250 pot)...board runs out another A and Q, stone-faced guy angrily throws his counterfeited 99 face up, maniac says "thanks for the runout" and tips the dealer 30 and goes to grab racks

It's maniac's BB and I ask "so you're going to 2/5 right" and he says "f*** it one more hand" and puts his BB out...now normally you're not supposed to be dealt in another hand if you got called for another game, unless you already posted a blind beforehand and want to play to your button, but who am I to tell the guy who just called a shove with a gutshot and then tipped the dealer 30 that he can't play his big blind and has to leave now? I doubt anyone at the table will mind either

So the next hand is in play, flop of QT9 two clubs, already close to 300 in the pot preflop alone, heads up between the maniac and a $1/hand grinder, maniac shoves his remaining ~400 all-in and grinder who has him covered goes deep into the tank, I'm just hoping for a call and a maniac win, but I'll take a fold too...the host calls the maniac for 2/5 again, I call up to them that he's in a hand, table is starting to get agitated with how long the grinder is tanking, finally after what had to be close to 5 minutes the grinder calls, maniac immediately tables KQ asking if he's good and unknown doesn't budge, I'm already celebrating the incoming tip in my head

Turn 8c, ugh pretty bad card for me, river blank...grinder shows JJ for the straight and I'm just left with thinking what could have been...well who knows maybe the grinder will surprise me based on the situation (long tank, suckout, stacked a great tipper)...$3, sigh "thank you"

I mean, that's a pretty fist pump tip from a grinder. I'm super happy there even though things could have gone different.

$3 from a grinder is the equivalent of them putting you in their will.

And you know that “extra” $2 is still gnawing away at him!

Amazing how one person on this thread makes an insane different.
RIP YTF!

I will be doing a bio soon. I was just released from the hospital.

Geez, glad you're on the mend!

Dealing 5-10 NL at yesterday, and discussion of the cash games at the WSOP came up, with the consensus that the dealers there are generally horrible. I explained that many/most of the dealers have little to no experience and that Vegas during the WSOP is forced to hire incredible under-qualified dealers, considering that in addition to the Rio, they're also looking to double or triple their staffs at the Golden Nugget, Venetian, and Planet Hollywood, not to mention that even the rooms without big tournaments running are getting a lot more cash game business at that time of year.

The players (mostly) understood that. I then compared it to the room where I work, where 90% of the dealers in the room have 2+ years of dealing experience and where 80% of the dealers in the room have 5+ years of dealing experience.

Their solution - keep the inexperienced dealers away from 5-10 NL. Let them just deal 2-4 limit and 1-2 NL. I explained that it's a burden on the room and a lot of extra work for the DC to constantly rearrange the strings to accomplish this. In my own room, we've had times where they have to do this for 1 or 2 break-in dealers who were recently promoted from poker brush, who deal all games except for PLO, and that in itself is a huge burden. I didn't add that it's a huge burden on the experienced dealers who would gladly deal just 1-2 NL and 2-4 limit rather than go near a 5-10 NL table.

"You guys tank for 3 minutes on the river, win a $3000 pot, and then tip a dollar. Why should I get stuck dealing extra downs of this just because I have more experience?" But I didn't say that.

However, I did say that dealing 5-10 NL is the easiest game to deal in all of poker. You don't have to keep track of the pot. You don't have to remember to rake (it's a time-raked game). You don't have to babysit the players about acting in turn. All you have to do is remember to pitch two cards to each player and the game generally runs itself.

"Right now I'm using about 1/4 of a percent of my brainpower on running this game," I let them know, as I successfully pitched two cards to each player and remembered to burn a card before I put out each flop.

They hated that explanation.

It sure did justify the dollar tip though...

Did you say that to impress them with how smart you are, or to show how easy it is to be a dealer? Though I know what you were trying to say, I think many players would take it to reinforce their belief that dealing is so easy it should be a min wage job at best. I would never make a comment like that to players, but then again it takes a much higher percentage of my brain power to make sure everyone gets the right number of cards and I burn before each flop . (Am I the only guy who ever kept dealing after two cards after coming off back to back omaha downs?)

Always a fine line to involve one's self in those conversations. In an experienced room there's definitely built up relationships where higher degrees of candor are available.

Possible point to add in ... Newer Dealers should have the PLO and higher stakes games out there as a carrot/goal, even if the grass isn't greener.

Might want to add to (or replace) the brain power statement with how refreshing it is to sit down with Players who know the game and don't need as much babysitting through each hand. It's a complement to them while still expressing your point. I agree that it could be taken either way if a Player tries to tie it into a tipping conversation. GL

Keep the inexperienced dealers in the higher paying games?

Send the experienced dealers to deal to the higher limit stiffs?

No thanks.

Why?

I would disagree that the bigger games are easier, at least for new dealers. Sure, you aren't expected to do very much but when you are, you are expected to do it IMMEDIATELY and if you don't, they will make their displeasure known to you and your supervisors.

You misread a hand in $1/2 and maybe there's a moment of bitching, but start pushing a pot to the wrong person in $50/100 and you'll be hearing about it for a while if you still have a job.

I remember dealing $75/150 Stud/8 at the WSOP and hearing non-stop bitching from the players how bad the last few dealers were and how they should only send experienced dealers to their game. They stiffed me over and over again as I made zero mistakes. They couldn't even be bothered to tell me I was good, just that the other dealers were bad. If they made the good dealers stay in those games they would lose the few they had.

I tend to notice sometimes when I'm following a bad/slow dealer that the ranges of tips can vary greatly! Sometimes they are better than average because the players are just happy to have a better dealer in the box. However, sometimes players will stiff you because they are still pissed off about the last dealer!

I've given up trying to figure out why these things happen!

I've been fighting a pretty bad ear infection. It makes it difficult to hear conversations on my right, but the pain has been manageable with some drugs.

I'm considering getting it for my other ear too.

just read about YTF's passing , he was really a joy to read , im sure you guys miss him here. hope you guys keep this thread going .

I guess I'm under the impression that people 'aspire' to learn, improve and certainly increase their value and income in their job. Maybe I'm naive in that respect, but if I took a job and was told that I couldn't do something until I was better at the 'beginner' level then I would assume that the 'something' was at least more valuable to the boss ... and probably paid more as well in the long run.

Most people want to 'move up' .. it may not be rosy when they get there but give me 4 of those as opposed to 10 folks who just want to settle into their role without any further ambition. GL