I'd follow Suit (into battle)

And in the thread too!

I think this would better connect the breakroom to YTF's posts and his legacy here. I never knew his name was Bobby until he passed. But the name YTF is well known not just in the breakroom thread but all over. So many new readers will still encounter YTF's posts throughout the forum in various threads. Then they see the breakroom with the name YTF and will make the connection.

So rather than title the room "Bobby's Breakroom (which in my opinion will still hit many people as some sort of spin offof Bobby's Room, or Bobby (aka YTF), I would suggest leading with the YTF name, and then in the little intro you could have something that says something like

"this breakroom is named for and dedicated to the memory of You Talk Funny, one of the most prolific, generous and respected posters in the history of this forum. Bobby (last name), posting as YTF, shared his remarkable life experiences as a poker dealer with thousands upon thousands of forum readers over the years with a unique sense of wit and humor that was unmatched. He was in many ways the heart and soul of the Casino and Cardroom Poker forum and will always be remembered fondly by those who enjoyed his remarkable way of sharing his stories and experiences."

I didnt really know him at all, so I'm sure those that did can come up with better words than these. I just wanted to show an example of how we could lead with the YTF name while still including his real life name.

That sounds perfect! Well done, sir!

Just now heard the YTF news, wow that is awful. This is one of my favorite threads to check once in a while and I always enjoyed his contributions the most. So sad.

And I think it makes sense. Top 10 posters in this thread:

User Name Posts
youtalkfunny 1,791
psandman 1,619
Quadstriker 1,033
pfapfap 679
Rawlz517 445
steamraise 394
Suit 388
NYCNative 387
RR 387
bolt2112 318

aka over 10% of the posts are YTFs.

I'm kind of surprised I made the top 10. Sometimes I can be prolific I guess, but I also have vanished from this form for many months at a time.

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Hey Peeps, just curious to know what you all think about poker players instructing other players what they should tip you while the game is in progress? Why I understand discussing bankroll management as a poker player and setting a limit as a professional poker player I have experienced some players who I know play for a living and therefore consider them as more of a colleague rather than a customer inform or suggest to players who are clearly playing for pleasure and fun and not trying to make a living playing poker that they should tip less. First of all outside of being completely insulting and rude for a pro player to interfere in me making an extra dollar from the very person they are hoping to felt, I feel like it's unprofessional, and basically just a big **** you to the service we provide as poker dealers. Some very weak minded folks do not even realize everything a poker dealer actually does to ensure the game, protect the game, more over protect their game, I feel like if a player thinks it's okay for them to instruct casual players to tip less then it's also perfectly okay for me to reccomend they never get involved in a hand with that player and let them know that the player in question is a pro, never bluffs, loves to slow play aces, and what all of his tells are.. oh yes I know what your tells are, if you're good to me I'll happily tell you but from now on if you're a nit and **** me out of an extra dollar I think you should expect me to return the favor.

You're assuming racism and that seems off, but if you're a witness to sexual harassment which is what that actually was then you are obligated to report it, especially if you're an employee but even if just a customer absolutely the moral thing to do is report it.

I don't know YTF but I support this motion out of principle.

Just say "look, buddy, I don't go to where you work and start slapping dicks out of your mouth, so please don't interfere with how I make money.

+1 for "YTF's Breakroom" > "Bobby's Breakroom"

As a floor I don’t tolerate players telling others how to tip. I will quickly tell them to STFU if I’m informed about it. That includes players shaming other for “not tipping enough”.

It's a shame too many dealers don't do the right thing about this last part. I ALWAYS pipe up when people try tip shaming. "Hey guys, tipping is a personal decision. Let people tip what they want." I want the pros to feel like I'm worth tipping that dollar after a "pot over a certain amount". I don't ever want to give anyone a reason not to tip me (pro-'tip', there's a lot of people out there looking for any reason not to top me)

If they're just helping out a player who's new to the game about tipping etiquette, no harm no foul. If they're telling players they're tipping too much, pull to the side and have discussion about how this is their only warning they'll receive and next time is a permanent ban from room.

But it doesn't sound as cool and isn't a funny play on Bobby's Room that way.

Ooh best answer, I'll use that when I want to find a new job...
Thanks though

I think that's one of the main issues....? You're not a dealer anyway.

As soon as we get the summary blurb from RR I'll make the change.

I'm leaning towards some version of "Bobby's breakroom, a YTF joint" because the alliteration sounds better. Ideally we would just go with the consensus of the dealers here, but it doesn't seem like we have one so latt and I may just make an executive decision.

No, I am not a card room employee. But I think the person who originally suggested the name was, and the reason it was suggested was because of the similarly to the Bellagio high limit room.

I will try to do that tonight. If I don't have it to you by tomorrow, PM me again to remind me.

Maybe you've misunderstood what I wrote, there is never any reason for a player to tell someone that they should tip less, especially while the game is in progress, moreover the only reason these type of players ****talk * about or comment on how much someone else is tipping is because they want to get that money before the dealer does, and to top it off they don't want to look like a dbag for not tipping or only tipping a dollar on a pot that is over several thousand dollars, but they are dbags, because a casual player who has a job and isn't looking to make a living playing poker has zero reason to give a **** about how much they tip, the point is to allow people to tip what they want, they don't care about ettiquite or they would be keeping their mouths shut. Nobody asked them how much they should tip, they just got pissy because the tip was over a dollar and they quickly did the math and realized that if that player tipped that much every time they won a pot it would cut into what they were there to get from them, dont kid yourself only an extremely selfish and greedy rude degenerate would ever even concern himself with what someone else is tipping out. I've watched and listened while the most angry nitty rude bitter jerks get pissy about the very random occurrence when a player is overly generous, I know more than a few casual players who will tell said "pro" to go **** themselves and even go as far as to put more money on the table to appease such ingrates, I once had a player push me the whole pot which was awesome but also because he was a family friend and when the grumpy people complained he just rebought for twice as much and when he won again I got another pot. Because it's his money he won it and he can do whatever the **** he wants to do with it, nobody complains when a player spends $60 to $100 out of his stack for a massage or food while at the table where do they get off complaining about how much they tip the dealer, the dealer is the only person keeping that game fair, we hold the deck because players cant trust each other to do so, we make rule calls because the players can't agree on what the rules should be, we stop angle shooting, cheating, collusion,
and ensure the game is ran efficiently, we follow the action, we keep track of what's on the table and in the pot, and we do this all while taking care of requests for table changes, drinks, floor services, food services, and sometimes we even keep the whole table entertained and you think that it's okay to tell someone to not tip more than a dollar? What if I went to your place of business and told your employer that they should pay you less? This isn't allowable in any other profession, personally as a casual player I would rather the bulk of my winnings go to the dealer than someone who is so blinded by their own greed that that can't stand it when a dealer gets more than a dollar for a hand. They want to make more than a dollar they should respect my right to make more too.

When I started in this business dealers would juice the floor it was an unspoken rule if you will that you tipped out your boss, because your floor person was there to take the heat off of you as a dealer, unfortunately so many floor people took unfair advantage of the juice policy and would give special treatment to dealers who tipped them more, the juice was supposed to be given anonymously but of course it wasn't because some dealers are shady too, so when they made it against the rules to tip your floor most floor people lost their incentive to take care of their dealers by making sure players do not adversely effect their tokes. I work for some of the best floor people in the business and most of them I would love to be able to tip out but then they would get fired if anyone reported it so I don't. But now players can tip the floor directly so most floor people are more concerned with pleasing the players than they are interested in protecting the game and the dealer. The power and control of how the room and game is run is being affected in a negative way due to this policy change if you will, imo, because historically casinos got away with paying their floor people low wages too because they had their hands in the dealers pocket. So now the dealer has lost their power as game boss, yes game boss, poker dealers are the "boss" of whatever table they are dealing, floor people are the boss over those dealers, and then there is always some dude in an office somewhere doing paperwork who is the boss of all of those bosses and they are usually bald or going bald from the stress of bossing all the bosses... that's why I dont complain about how much vacation time they get.


I would hire you as my boss �� lemme know if you ever need a job!

I said that because I have had players who had the audacity to physically stop me from mucking a hand, I can't even tell you how many times I could have pressed charges against a player who overstepped physical boundaries in a public poker room, I have stopped giving a **** however and I think tf the next time someone grabs my hand I might go to jail myself from knocking their ****ing teeth out. Now typically I don't like to take these type of players off the table before they go broke because I am a true blue poker dealer, poker royalty if you will second generation, and I know my job is to keep the fish at the table and make sure the donkey's get overly confident and I am very good at doing that, disrespect me however and I feel free to treat you accordingly, and by that I mean stop thinking the dealer isn't the most important person and your only friend at the poker table, everyone else is there to felt you period, I just want a little juice!

I'd like to add without editing because this should also be included, I know very well the swings that occur in poker because my father was a professional poker player for 25 years and I know I'm probably the only dealer he ever tipped more than a dollar to. However he was supporting our family with his earnings and he didn't play tournaments he was a for cash player and he did this for a living way before poker blew up and was popular and on espn. He's an old rounder and retired from the business however he once told me to be nice to the player who only ever tips a dollar because most of the time that player is tipping out overall 10% of his winnings because he could calculate their losses as well, so I appreciate the dollar regardless, however there's also something called professional courtesy and too many pros don't respect that. The dealer is the host of your game without the dealer the pitfalls of professional poker, live poker ruin your chances of having a fair game. A dealers job is to remain neutral and level the playing field as reasonably as possible, that means enforcing rules, I have had players try to angle shoot and when I stop them they threaten not just my toke but my job, that same player will lose his **** if I don't stop someone else from angling them. The problem with some of these new players is they only think of themselves, they want everything in their favor and **** everyone else, well boys that is not how the game works. Without me you don't have a game. While I'm certain that there's many poker dealers who do not have a clue what their actual function is, as I didn't my first year, I will tell you that I'm ready to start passing my experience on, if players can't respect the dealers right to make an extra dollar on occasion you will be forcing us to form a union and if that happens expect your rake to skyrocket because none of us are in this to work for minimum wage, all the reasons why you bowed out of the rat race to go for your own as a professional player are the same reason as a poker dealer I go for my own. Hashtag respect that!

Ok, let's put an end to the tipping talk please, or move it to the containment thread. Thanks.

Why this? I am new however this is what employees talk about, why is this a problem for you?

I wouldn't take it personally. As someone who has been here for many years, it inevitably turns into 200 posts of arguing back and forth and results in being asked to move to the tipping thread where every in and out of this discussion has already happened in cycle after cycle of the same repeating loop. Moderators just step in at the start and ask it to be moved to the tipping thread right away. Basically, every thread that starts talking about tipping becomes strictly a conversation about tipping and the original intent of the thread is lost forever.