I'm generally giving them leeway there but often I'll do my best to make sure the other player is aware they haven't called yet. I might hold my hand up in a stop gesture towards the all in player then say hold up, action is here and point at the one making the decision.

When I feel they have committed to calling and start turning their hand over I'll look right at them and say "That's a call" and if they don't immediately protest it would be hard for them to back out.

What I really hate is when they just turn their hand over without saying anything definitive. They made the decision in their head and don't understand that they need to verbalize it.

As a dealer, I wouldn’t treat any of those as a call. So I wouldn’t announce call or showdown. If a player decides to table a hand without me announcing either call or showdown, then that’s on him, IMO.

"I have to call."

"You're right."

Next.

Do you see that you might be enabling an intentional angle?

If V is intentionally angling to get H to expose prematurely, your lack of protection AIDS him. Otoh, if V is not angling just trying to work things out then no one is harmed by ensuring no premature exposure happens. No hArm done.

I think than any statement that includes the word 'call' that might not have been clearly heard or might be leading should be 'double checked' by the Dealer and possibly include a 'stop sign' towards the potential calling player.

One thing that I've noticed in a lot of spots is that a player will (re)act when a Dealer looks their way. It is one of my keys in a loud room for sure. It's really no fault of the Dealer who might take a quick glance away from the acting player, but if it's more than a quick peek it could be a cause of OOT action, or in this case a premature showdown. GL

Had a fun, friendly debate yesterday. I was playing $1/2 and a DR from my room was in the game with me. At the time a floor person came over and the dealer in the box made for four poker room employees.

My friend said "Yo bet" and threw out $11.

I asked the people at the table how they would rule if a player said "Yo bet" and threw out three reds. The "we all know what a yo bet is and it's a casino reference" side said to make it $11. The "yo is not a valid bet sizing" said to make it $15.

And I didn't even bring up the possibility of someone throwing in a green chip while saying "Yo bet."

What do you guys think?

For the benefit of those not in the know, could you tell us what a DR is and why 'yo' would mean 11? I've spent a lot of time in poker rooms but never heard of either of those terms.

DR = Dual Rate. Often abbreviated as D/R as well.

Yo = A roll of eleven in craps is referred to as “yo,” “yo-leven,” or “yo eleven.” It's called out this way by the croupier because the word “eleven” can easily be confused with “seven” since the sounds are so similar.

In craps rolling an 11 is called a "yo". Actually might be spelled "eyo"? A DR is probably a dual-rate dealer/floor.

IMO, if someone throws out 3 red chips, while saying "yo", the bet is 15. He should be saying "yo 11" to make it proper.

The bet is $11 the dealer should clarify for the non craps players and the player is told to knock it off. There is nothing gained by making a player make a larger bet because you don;t like the terminology he used. What if the player said a dozen dollars? would you say that isn't $12? how about if they say a nickel while tossing out a $25 chip do you tell them they can't bet in five cent increments and that the bet is $25?

What if I threw out a $25 chip and said "Betty Boop"? To me, "Yo" as a bet number would be just as meaningless.

Except that to others it's not meaningless, yet alone "equally" so.

What's the minimum number of people needed that are familiar with a particular lingo for it to be acceptable? Would this number be in general or just those sitting at that particular table?

In a casino environment there are certain terms which have meaning that they don;t have in other environments. Yo is one of them. You may not know what yo means but that is why the dealer should clarify it and tell the player to stop using it .... but that doesn't mean we should pretend it doesn't actually have a meaning in that environment. If nothing else the other players are on notice that you said something and they don;t know what it was or what it means and they should seek clarification if the dealer hasn't clarified.

Just like if in your home game "Betty Boop" came to mean "raise" by usage that now when someone in that game says "Betty Boop" it should be a raise.

Most importantly the staff.

What happened to English only?

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As a young dealer, I once announced an $11 bet as "yo-leven". More than one player misheard that as "all-in".

Again, people see what they expect to see, and hear what they expect to hear.

I haven't used "yo" at a poker table since. I now use "EEEEE-leven," to distinguish it from "seven" (which is the whole reason why they use "yo" in craps).

If I see a player who looks like he is going to turn his cards over, I will try and stop him. But if he is one of those “insta tabled my hand”guys then he is probably out of luck, though of course a supervisor would make that call, not me. But the instashow guy could just as easily be angling with any of those statements. If a player says one of them, believing (correctly IMO) that they are not bindind as a call, and the bettor has the nuts, he could quickly table his hand and try to insist that he did it only because the guy called, hoping to get a floor to rule the guy has to pay when he never really called.

We have a 'special' bet as well "Numb Numb" (55) ... and "Moack Numb Numb" (155) typically when a specific Vietnamese player is at the table but lots of players use it all the time when they bet those amounts. GL

and no one gets hurt by this because if I'm playing and a guy says these nonsense words I'm not taking them as check or fold .... I'm asking the dealer what's going on....

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I agree if he instashows then protecting him may not be possible. That would be on him. That is also why imo you almost want to pre anticipate the flip and even cover the exposed cards with a hand if you make st even if caller did get a glimpse.

As to the all in reverse angle. The same actions that protect him make it clear to all there is not yet a call. So he can try and hope a ruling goes his way but only if the floor goes the opposite way. This would be seldom imo.

The bet would be 15 in the three red example.

Something actually interesting happened.

So make a long story short...

the dude had 2 minutes to run from the center podium to his car to get his ID and back in order to win the 900 dollar drawing, and the mother****er actually did it, understandably out of breath!

"When's the last time you ran like that?!"

"I left... the marines... in 2007."

Semper Fi, my dude. Pay that man his money!

I’ve never understood that, but have seen it several times, where players win a high hand, and then say they have no ID with them. I ask them did you drive here, and they say yeah, my wallet and drivers license is in my car. WTF is up with that? My car is the last place I would want to leave my wallet. I just don’t get it.

Totally not casino specific but I find it happens with people from north America and GB all the time. They just don't carry ID! Every time I'm on a trip abroad and doing a group tour Brits/Americans leave their passports at their hotels.

The guests at my casino who can't produce valid ID are 99% shady people. Students & housewives spending 10s of thousands a month, that one guy who hits a table share then doesn't come back.