Fixed it for you.

Pro tip: If someone is making such a speech as the chips begin to move, I'm going to stop him before his chips get there and clarify his action. I'm going to put my hand on the felt between him and his betting area. My wrist will be on the felt, and my palm will be upturned and facing him--the universal signal for "Halt!"

When he halts, I will ask him, "What do you want to do?", or, "Is that your action?"

If he agrees, I will announce his all-in before he has put any chips into the pot.

I'm gonna let him get called on the string raise. Perhaps that was his plan.

Two weeks ago in a tournament a player throws out her bounty chips into the betting area. Our rule is announced that putting bounty chips out is not a declaration of being all in. I immediately announce "no action" she and all the players immediately act confused (because they all talk over the rules announcements) I start to explain that it means nothing and it's still her action.

She says "can I take them back"

Wtf do you think I just said? I tell her she can and she pulls them back and thinks and then announces all in. She gets called and doubles up.

After the hand she openly blames me for ruining her plan to appear that she accidentally threw her bountys in to trick her opponent...

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This is the best dealing procedure. If someone is giving a speech like that they are most likely inexperienced and in danger of making a mistake. Make them stop and declare their action.

I would so have fun wiht that.... Floor! yes dealer.... this player wants to complain to my superior that my explaining of the rules ruined her angleshoot.

I've never played with bounty chips but I don't understand what her angle would be.

I've seen many an angle-shot where the shooter deliberately string-raised, knowing I would not allow it. Those kill me. I *know* the guy is BS'ing, I know he is weak and trying to appear strong, and I hate that he is making me part of his scheme.

Some day I'm going to NOT call it, just to see if he calls it on himself!

I don't use the term angle here.

But its a variation of the ..... "OOPS I thought those were the small chips" manuever.

In some places throwing your bounty chip into the betting area declares you all in.

So she expected that I would announce "All-In" and then she would act all upset because she thought she was betting and grabbed the wrong chips....." In fact she even went into her routine .... that is why after i explained that it wasn't all-in and it was still her turn to act she asked "Can I take them Back?" She never expected to be allowed to take them back ...... and then her opponent was supposed to call her thinking she had made a massive overbet accidentally and was vulnerable.


When I ssay she complained ..... it wa after the next hand started and she openly stated her disappointment that I didn't do what she had expected .... she wasn't arguing that I should have ruled her all-in.

At this point her opponent forst figures out what she was doing and he arguing with me that it shouldn;t have been allowed. I point out to him it wasn't allowed .... but he is upset so I have to call a floor over....

So now in the middle of the next hand I'm describing what occurred to the floor. Think about what this sounds like .... He is upset that I didn't declare her all in because she threw in her bounty chips .... but then she went all-in anyway and he wants her to have been all-in because of the bounty chips instead of all-in by verbal declaration....

Its kind of like complaining that your heads up opponent checked out of turn, and still checked after you checked in turn....

Another rule that seems to have faded into obscurity is "Deliberately acting out of turn shall not be tolerated." Now, we totally tolerate it.

This guy wanted a version of that rule applied here. "Deliberately shooting angles will not be tolerated."???

Later the floor told me that after this guy was knocked out of the tournament he asked the floor to check the cameras to see if the dealer cut the deck on the hand that he was eliminated.

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I love paranoid players like this because they are always thinking/worrying about so much stuff that they can't focus on the game and end up making mistakes.

I work in the kind of room where any time I'm in the men's room and I see a player wash his hands I'm pleasantly surprised.

I don't think he was focused on this. I think this was an after the fact ... last ditch attempt to not lose

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I found a sticky deck the other day in a hand shuffled tournament and a player who had been knocked out on my table heard about it and started demanding his money back. He would not stop ranting while the floor was waiting to hear back from surveillance. The floor stayed calm and just kept telling him he can't do anything until they figure out what happened. Eventually they got back to us and we found out the card left the table after his bustout hand ended. Another player busted in the same hand and as he was leaving he grabbed one card along with his receipt and put it in his pocket. I found the problem on the next hand so it could not have affected his tournament, just the one hand after he was out.

He spent another half hour demanding his money back anyway, for good measure. The tournament had been tainted and he felt he deserved a refund.

I've dealt places where throwing the bounty chip means nothing, where it means you're all in, or where you don't special chips in the first place. The most important thing is to be very clear about what your rule is and keep repeating it to staff and players so everyone knows the deal.

I prefer to not have them at all. If someone busts, give the seat card of the busted player to the winner of the pot. Call the floor over to exchange the card for the chips or voucher or whatever. In my experience this works great as long as the tournament is not too big and there are enough floors to go around. If there is only one person trying to handle floor calls and handing out bounties for 30 tables it gets a bit backed up.

It occurred to me that not everyone knows what a sticky deck is - it means a card is missing.

Short version - someone walked off with a card after busting. I dealt one hand with a 51 card deck. Someone who busted BEFORE that hand demanded his money back because the tournament was unfair.

sticky deck is a code, yo.

Fixed that for you.

I didn't expect this job to be easy. In fact, anyone I have talked to I have said the same. I know plenty of players who think dealing poker is a cush job that a monkey could do.

Maybe monkeys are smarter than I am.

But after one week, I have never felt like such a failure when it comes to doing a job. I am struggling at almost everything.

Mostly I can't get the well right. I make change, or change out chips for the rake and I invariably screw it up.

I'm sticking with it, cause, well, the money is pretty good (it could be a lot better) and I need the job.

It gets easier, but it takes time and effort.

Don't rush. Place the large chip in front of your tray. Take the smaller chips out of the tray and fan them out next to the large chip. Put the large chip in the tray. Every single time. The same order, one chip at a time, no shortcuts. It takes a few extra seconds, but you need to get used to taking extra time when you need it anyway.

If you went to dealer school you should have procedures for this for many things such as multiple side pots. The slow, foolproof way. After you get comfortable then you can start using the shortcuts you see other dealers use but for now just do what it takes to get it right.

One week is not enough time to get everything down. Try to get enough sleep, ask your co-workers questions, and make little improvements. The information will settle in and in a few months you'll be able to decide if this is the right job for you. Maybe it isn't, but I suspect it's too soon to tell.

Guy facing an all-in bet throws his cards in face-up. I pick 'em up to muck them, and reflexively ask, "You're folding?"

He goes bananas. Of course he calls, he has the nuts, blah blah blah.

I try to calm him down, but he's inconsolable. I suggest that next time, he announce his call HALF as loudly as he's currently carrying on.

But then it gets silly. He explains to me that first he put his stack in, *then* he "turned his cards up," so he clearly called, and I'm clearly wrong.

This is ridiculous. If that's what he did, then why would any dealer ask him if he's folding?

At this point, the player next to him chimes in with, "I heard you say 'call'."

The caller continues to yell at me. Somewhere in his rant, he allowed that he never said anything, but his chips going in before his cards were clearly a call.

Now I've got TWO completely delusional people I need to deal with.

I've vented about this story to several coworkers tonight. They all said the same thing: "I woulda just mucked 'em."

He had the nuts, or his opponent did?

Procedures, procedures, procedures. Stick to them. Learn them. Love them. They feel constricting at first. But after a while you depend on knowing that everything is in the right place because they're second nature to you.

(On a somewhat related note, this is why so many of us in this thread prefer for players not to do us the "favor" of moving the button for us.) When you get used to doing your procedures the same exact way, over and over and over, you no longer have to give a second thought to worrying about whether the well is right, or whether the button is in the right place, or whether you remembered to drop the rake, or remembered to shuffle-shuffle-box-shuffle, and you can just focus on keeping track of where the action is and having fun with the players at the table.

And, yes, the money definitely gets better. I have memories of cashing out at my first job. I was on a shift with a veteran dealer and we both cashed out our tip boxes at the same time. I watched as my co-worker cashed out nearly double what I'd made that day, despite the fact that we were both working the same hours at the same tables.

That gave me hope and incentive to stick at it. That, in time, my dealing speed would improve, and that as the players became familiar with me, that some of them would actually appreciate me. And all of these years later, I'm still at it - albeit at an entirely different casino.