As someone who is drug and alcohol free, I respectfully disagree. Good luck.

Hey kenny, take that Politards garbage to Politics. The knowledgeable people here gave you advice; now you can use it as you wish, but this isn't the thread to debate legalization of marijuana.

Rapini, you're blocking again. You need to learn to express your true feeling and not hold back so much.

But seriously, what Rapini said.

I think I missed something here. Why are the cops making the player leave? Didn't you say it was the player's brother standing behind him that was making all the threats and stuff? Seems pretty heavy handed by the cops to handle it that way.

Basically before the cops came, the brother was the big problem. As soon as the cops came, the brother was like "Okay, we have to go now" but the player was in the hand. So the cops had two guys being ejected, one was willing to leave and the other was not so they used force against the one who was not. It just happened that the guy who was willing to leave was the bigger instigator before the cops showed up. The player was not perfect either, just not as bad (and at least he was playing, unlike his brother).

In the hand, Kevin could have asked for the floor to declare the guy's hand dead since he was no longer at the table, I suppose, but it didn't occur to him, I guess. Given the insanity at that point, I cannot blame him. We were surrounded by floor people who could have made a ruling (one of them threw me the keys and had me lock up the rack as the guy was being tasered) but that would have required some fast thinking under very bizarre circumstances and in the end the best hand did win the pot and Kevin didn't have to call off even more chips from the all-in bet with a loser.

You were surrounded by floor people who didn't have the basic common sense to tell the dealer to deal this guy out long before the police got there.

Lets .... see player and brother are disruptive to the point that security has to be called .... but lets keep dealing him in. Security can't handle the situation so lets call the police .... but keep dealing the ******* in while we wait .....


I don't think I would want to have these guys making a decision .....

Look, I wanted to tell a light-hearted story about the hand and Kevin, the guy in it, not open up a debate as to the effectiveness of our floor and security (or lack thereof).

I had issues with how things were handled and the response from the head guy at the time was "you weren't hurt because we didn't go in and make a big deal, instead of showing force and waiting for the cops. So it ended without anyone being hurt and we had your back the whole time."

You wanted to tell a light hearted story about excessive forced used by armed police agaisnt a guy who just wante dto finish playing a poker hand?

I don't think its possible to tell such a story ... and call it light-hearted.

I dunno - it lightened my heart. I like hearing about douchebags getting tased though, so your results may vary.

If I'm dealing this hand and the police show up, I'm halting play to call the floor and let the floor make a decision about whether tazered guy has a live hand and what should happen to the pot. Not proceeding with the hand as if nothing is happening.

How can you act like nothing is going on? Unless it just makes the story sound better.

Or if it is a made up story. What kind of casino calls the police to show someone the door rather than security taking care of it? The only time we have had police take someone out of a game is when we identified that the player was trespassing by being in the casino.

Actually, I got praise from the other players and a couple of supervisors about how I kept my cool while it was all going on.

Additionally, several supervisors and security people were watching the table from the time the guy became a problem until the cops showed up. There was no shortage of people around the table and at any point a person in a suit could have stepped in - I did say that the shift manager threw me the keys to lock up the rack, for example.

As for RR's assertion that it was made up: No, it wasn't. I fail to see what I could gain by making up such a story. It is easily verifyable to anyone who knows where I work. The incident even came up in a thread here for the room.

Also, if I made it up, I would have done something more heroic. Or more in line with my previous posts, I diffuse the situation with a cheesy line about how that was the most shocking hand I ever dealt.

Between this story and the ones about your "act" and "routine", NYC you sound like the worst possible dealer possible.

I am crushed.

That's a lot of hate NYC, kudos to you for not letting it get to you.

The above is a bit too harsh and somewhat redundant...possibly.

NYCNative:

I don't think you're a bad dealer, I think some experience and seasoning will improve your perception of what a good dealer is and what they do.

Honestly though, if a player stood up and left a table in the middle of a hand, wouldn't you either kill his hand or ask a floor if the had should be killed?

The player in question created the situation that caused the police to remove him. He left the table.

Once the player was removed from the table, I think you should have asked a floor person how to handle it. i feel like they left you hanging there and they should have stepped in before the situation got out of hand, which it did.

I would have stopped the player from playing once he was going to be removed. I would have tried to talk him into leaving, unless I wanted him arrested.

I would have told the dealer to deal around him since he was liable to be removed at any time.

The other thing is I think you made an error in even telling the story. Where you work is not a great secret. These aren't the kind of stories you tell about your current employment.

I have a number of pretty good stories that i won't post in this or any other forum because it's not professional to discuss your co workers and employer.

I won't comment on floor decisions made at the room I work in, either live and in person, or in this or any other forum. IU get asked about floor calls once in a great while that happened where I work. I politely tell the player that since I wasn't there, I can't comment on the situation. I respect the people I work with and I will not second guess them.

Giving my opinion about a nameless, faceless floor person, dealer or player who I will probably never meet, that's different, it's educational and occasionally fun.

i play where nycnative deals and he does a good job. for the half hour he's at my table, i have a good time. it's a long, long game when you play a lot. fold, fold, fold. nycnative breaks the monotony.

i can see where it would irritate some people. if you're stuck, card dead, not having fun, you probably don't want to hear '12 is the new 2.'

but i will take nycnative over a lot of the dealers where he works. at least you know you're getting in more than 6 hands per down.

people playing $1/$2 are there to have a good time and he helps that. that's what i play so that's what i'm basing this on.

there's a new dealer there ... asian. slow from what i hear; haven't had her at my table yet. but not a single guy there cares because they all think she's hot. so they put up with it.

at least nycnative can run the game. not every dealer can.

Nice thread. Mostly poker dealers huh? Any reg casino dealers itt?

Que the violin. C'mon, you knew the potential consequences of smoking pot when you did it.

The next person that discusses smoking pot is getting banned.

I guess no regular casino dealers in The Breakroom. I'll check back in 20 minutes

"I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU"

You realize this is a poker forum, right?

You do realize that they play a lot of poker in casinos, right? Poker dealers aren't the only dealers that play

I would also imagine it would be somewhat common for dealers in the pit to eventually deal poker.