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11-05-2012 , 01:59 AM
what would you do if this was happening to you regularly?

imagine the casino is busy, not overflowing, say 15 games on average.

you work around 6 p.m.-2 a.m. most nights. tournament starts at 6:30. some nights, 5 some nights 6:30.

this is your typical night:

table, break, table, chip run, tournament table, chip run, table, break, tournament table, break

10 downs, you get 3 cash games, 2 tournament games and 5 combos of chip runner/break.

this is pretty standard. best you are doing is 5 cash games in your first five hours.

would you point this out to floor people? would you keep your mouth shut because you're not a complainer? no one else is getting 10 cash games in 5 hours, but it doesn't seem like anyone else has this bad of a string either. it's impossible to know unless others complain to you, though.

thoughts?
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11-05-2012 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ibelieveinkolb
what would you do if this was happening to you regularly?

imagine the casino is busy, not overflowing, say 15 games on average.

you work around 6 p.m.-2 a.m. most nights. tournament starts at 6:30. some nights, 5 some nights 6:30.

this is your typical night:

table, break, table, chip run, tournament table, chip run, table, break, tournament table, break

10 downs, you get 3 cash games, 2 tournament games and 5 combos of chip runner/break.

this is pretty standard. best you are doing is 5 cash games in your first five hours.

would you point this out to floor people? would you keep your mouth shut because you're not a complainer? no one else is getting 10 cash games in 5 hours, but it doesn't seem like anyone else has this bad of a string either. it's impossible to know unless others complain to you, though.

thoughts?
How are you assigned your "strings"?
In the example that you gave, what to the strings of each of the other dealers who are working look like?
Are the comparable?

Is there value in seniority in so far as how live games are assigned?
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11-05-2012 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Yeah. It tilts me when dealer picks up mucked cards and places them on top of the muck.

Slide the cards to the muck so you don't expose them, and don't
put them on top, mix them into the muck so they're unretrievable.

It tilts me when dealers push a pot without mucking all other hands.

It tilts me when dealers muck all hands including the winning hand and muck the board before pushing the pot.
I don't know where you people work, but around here so many dealers roll the deck that it immediately pops out at you when a dealer does NOT do it. The dealers who don't roll the deck are usually the same ones who have a low pitch, slide the cards INTO the muck, don't box the muck, muck the losing hand/don't muck the winning hand, don't muck the burn cards/stub before showdown, cut the deck with only one hand, don't move the deck from hand to hand during a given hand, and are generally more aware of the rules and also generally more pleasant.

Last edited by Rapini; 11-05-2012 at 11:11 AM.
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11-05-2012 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ibelieveinkolb
what would you do if this was happening to you regularly?

imagine the casino is busy, not overflowing, say 15 games on average.

you work around 6 p.m.-2 a.m. most nights. tournament starts at 6:30. some nights, 5 some nights 6:30.

this is your typical night:

table, break, table, chip run, tournament table, chip run, table, break, tournament table, break

10 downs, you get 3 cash games, 2 tournament games and 5 combos of chip runner/break.

this is pretty standard. best you are doing is 5 cash games in your first five hours.

would you point this out to floor people? would you keep your mouth shut because you're not a complainer? no one else is getting 10 cash games in 5 hours, but it doesn't seem like anyone else has this bad of a string either. it's impossible to know unless others complain to you, though.

thoughts?

I think if the method of creating and assigning strings is fair .... then you shut up and curse your bad luck.

But if the method isn't fair then maybe you speak to someone who can change it.

Of course if your management is like ours the official answer ... We don't care ..... and if you complain more we will make it worse......
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11-05-2012 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
if I were to make a list of the meanest, trouble-making players in our room, two of these guys would be in my top five, and the third would have a shot at the top ten.
Where do I rank?
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11-05-2012 , 03:42 PM
I push into Table 2 last night. The player in the five seat has just joined the game, and has posted a blind in late position. I need to hand shuffle, because the red light just came on right before the outgoing dealer left.

I need to hand shuffle for three hands, because suddenly the machine is having a problem every time. The players assure me that it had been working fine up to now. Even the "off and on" trick didn't work.

The third time I need to "Remove cards", there were only a few cards left in the unshuffled stub, and the problem became apparent--there was a player's MVP card in there. The new guy in the five seat never got his card back after the dealer swiped him in. It was in the machine, and choking it.

Everyone who saw it, and everyone who heard about it later, all had the same reaction: "Well, that's a first!"

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Where do I rank?
You're not even on my list...but I don't speak for all dealers.
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11-05-2012 , 06:25 PM
There's no "most creative players" list? The first time you dealt to me I was able to drop a "you talk funny" and a "two plus two" naturally into the conversation. That has to count for something!
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11-08-2012 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by psandman
Of course if your management is like ours the official answer ... We don't care ..... and if you complain more we will make it worse......
The **********, everyone!

(I know where you work, and I nodded. The management apple doesn't fall far from the tree, so to speak.)
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11-08-2012 , 02:07 AM
If I am having a poor day due to the rotation, I look at the dealer ahead of me and the one behind me and know they are having the same kind of day.

I really don't sweat the rotation assignments since I know they are assigned fairly.
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11-09-2012 , 05:24 AM
Player drags a nice pot. Man next to him says, "Nice pot." Winner says that he was stuck, and that he's relieved to "recuperate" some chips.
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11-09-2012 , 05:55 AM
Guy has recently dug deep for typical douche bag moves when he's losing during my down. You know, mucking intentionally 2 inches in front of himself while in seat 2 to make my life difficult, and has even mucked his 84o face up on purpose and sarcastically saying "oops", etc. typical prick

He usually plays 5/10nl but today was playing 2/5. In a straddle pot he makes it $40 with KK and sees a 4 way flop of KJ5sss, eventually getting it in against the biggest fishes Q4ss and doubling the opponent up for $475. I saw he was like $550ish deep and knew I'd have to coin both stacks down, as I reach for the winners stack to count it he takes his ~$400 in red from the 10 seat and just splashes them all on the middle of the table. He's complaining (fairly quietly, more like muttering to himself) and finally goes "you know dealer? I don't like you very much"

I calmly say "well that's pretty obvious" and got a laugh out of most of the rest of the table. Got me a couple of red birds too for my humor in an annoying spot
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11-09-2012 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Strife
He's complaining (fairly quietly, more like muttering to himself) and finally goes "you know dealer? I don't like you very much"
I recall 6 or 7 years ago we had a player who would constantly "teach" other players lessons and quip and quote the how and why of odds etc. When other players lost pots he would tell them how they misplayed, how he would have played it "correctly". He was also notorious for berating dealers when HE was losing, he played a lot of 40 or 60 limit Holdem.
One down he is losing quite a bit , gets into a large pot,( with aces or kings) gets hammered by a river-card and he starts in on me, $&^ dealer , You ALWAYS F*^#@% kill me etc etc.
I push the pot and start the next hand, he is still fuming and just glaring at me and making comments about how i killed him. As i start to pitch the next hand i say as calmly as i can:
" Hey , (insert name here)You've been playing poker for a long time haven't you?"
right away he recognizes that i know that he knows ( in his mind) that he knows alot about poker, that i recognize it( )and says something along the line of , "Yes, almost 20+ years playing this game, i know... yack, Blah,yack. yack..etc,etc."

I let him finish, looked him straight in the eye and said with all sincerity:
"That is interesting, all that experience,and you STILL haven't figured out its not the dealers fault."

The rest of the table busts out laughing, he shuts up and doesn't say another word.
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11-09-2012 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by UbinTook
I recall 6 or 7 years ago we had a player who would constantly "teach" other players lessons and quip and quote the how and why of odds etc. When other players lost pots he would tell them how they misplayed, how he would have played it "correctly". He was also notorious for berating dealers when HE was losing, he played a lot of 40 or 60 limit Holdem.
One down he is losing quite a bit , gets into a large pot,( with aces or kings) gets hammered by a river-card and he starts in on me, $&^ dealer , You ALWAYS F*^#@% kill me etc etc.
I push the pot and start the next hand, he is still fuming and just glaring at me and making comments about how i killed him. As i start to pitch the next hand i say as calmly as i can:
" Hey , (insert name here)You've been playing poker for a long time haven't you?"
right away he recognizes that i know that he knows ( in his mind) that he knows alot about poker, that i recognize it( )and says something along the line of , "Yes, almost 20+ years playing this game, i know... yack, Blah,yack. yack..etc,etc."

I let him finish, looked him straight in the eye and said with all sincerity:
"That is interesting, all that experience,and you STILL haven't figured out its not the dealers fault."

The rest of the table busts out laughing, he shuts up and doesn't say another word.
LOVE THIS. Hahaha.
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11-10-2012 , 03:07 PM
I played 5-6 hours at Revel the last time I was there. Will see if I get any offers for comp rooms now that it's the down season.
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11-13-2012 , 04:02 AM
I just spent a few minutes trying to decide where to post this. It obv belongs in the Games and Puzzles forum (or whatever it's called), but I never go there. It's too crappy to start an OOT thread with. I decided that since it literally took place in the breakroom at work, that it couldn't be too out of place here:

I walk into the breakroom tonight, and a dealer and floorman (both from the 21 pit) are playing chess. This is unusual. I walk over to observe, and it's immediately apparent that neither of them has a clue about this game--after five moves each, only pawns had advanced. The back rows were packed like a subway car.

"The winner of this match goes on to play Kirby," I announced, and everyone scoffed. Kirby is a poker dealer where I work, and he's a certified SuperGenius. Dude won a couple of games on Jeopardy, was only a brainfart away from a third win (which usually locks up a spot in that show's annual Tournament of Champions; he explained the brainfart as a side effect of taping three shows back-to-back-to-back)...and while trivia is a fun pastime for him, what he REALLY likes is chess! Good luck playing him! I don't think he's going to dick around with pawns for his first five moves.

"The winner of this match goes on to play Kirby," I joked, "and I'm installing him as a -9700 favorite over either of you!"

That's when I learned that Kirby might be better at chess than even I had imagined.

"He won't even need the BOARD to beat you two guys!", chimed in another poker dealer. "I've seen him do it! He played this guy while he was dealing at another table! The guy had a game on his iPad, he's calling out his moves to Kirby, Kirby's calling back his moves--while he's dealing!"

"A lot of those experts do that," I said. I mean, it's impressive, but I didn't think it was as superhuman like these guys thought. "I could describe a hold'em hand to you, and you could follow along without actually seeing the board cards, the hole cards, the chips, etc."

"Well, yeah, but there's FIVE cards on the board! There's a lot more than five things to keep track of in chess! Oh, and Kirby BEAT that guy with the iPad, too!"

I laughed, because I realized that my line of -9700 was way too LOW! And it made me wonder, is there a number high enough that you could actually take bets on a match like this? I mean, the only way Kirby loses to one of these guys is if someone poisons him on the way to the match. I was going to say, "...if he were drunk," but I'm confident that even a catatonic Kirby could beat these guys (I don't even know if he drinks!).

I started to compare it to "me vs Carl Lewis", but even Carl Lewis might break his leg, pull up lame, something, there would be a mathematical CHANCE I could beat him in a 100m.

Is there any price you would take on one of these crumbs vs Kirby in a game of chess? And if you answer that question, don't be like that guy who jumped into the East River, who explained why after they fished him out: "A guy offered me a million-to-one that I couldn't jump over the river--I was pretty sure I couldn't do it, but I had to bet it for value!"
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11-13-2012 , 08:36 AM
Well there is always the chance one of these guys is a chess genius who is just screwing around wasting time. But since chess doesn't involve any aspect of luck (other then the draw for sides) if in fact Kirby is that good a player and these guys aren't sandbagging you I don't see any way that can bet on them to win outside of small value of betting on Kirby to have a stroke during the match.
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11-13-2012 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
I just spent a few minutes trying to decide where to post this. It obv belongs in the Games and Puzzles forum (or whatever it's called), but I never go there. It's too crappy to start an OOT thread with. I decided that since it literally took place in the breakroom at work, that it couldn't be too out of place here:

I walk into the breakroom tonight, and a dealer and floorman (both from the 21 pit) are playing chess. This is unusual. I walk over to observe, and it's immediately apparent that neither of them has a clue about this game--after five moves each, only pawns had advanced. The back rows were packed like a subway car.

"The winner of this match goes on to play Kirby," I announced, and everyone scoffed. Kirby is a poker dealer where I work, and he's a certified SuperGenius. Dude won a couple of games on Jeopardy, was only a brainfart away from a third win (which usually locks up a spot in that show's annual Tournament of Champions; he explained the brainfart as a side effect of taping three shows back-to-back-to-back)...and while trivia is a fun pastime for him, what he REALLY likes is chess! Good luck playing him! I don't think he's going to dick around with pawns for his first five moves.

"The winner of this match goes on to play Kirby," I joked, "and I'm installing him as a -9700 favorite over either of you!"

That's when I learned that Kirby might be better at chess than even I had imagined.

"He won't even need the BOARD to beat you two guys!", chimed in another poker dealer. "I've seen him do it! He played this guy while he was dealing at another table! The guy had a game on his iPad, he's calling out his moves to Kirby, Kirby's calling back his moves--while he's dealing!"

"A lot of those experts do that," I said. I mean, it's impressive, but I didn't think it was as superhuman like these guys thought. "I could describe a hold'em hand to you, and you could follow along without actually seeing the board cards, the hole cards, the chips, etc."

"Well, yeah, but there's FIVE cards on the board! There's a lot more than five things to keep track of in chess! Oh, and Kirby BEAT that guy with the iPad, too!"

I laughed, because I realized that my line of -9700 was way too LOW! And it made me wonder, is there a number high enough that you could actually take bets on a match like this? I mean, the only way Kirby loses to one of these guys is if someone poisons him on the way to the match. I was going to say, "...if he were drunk," but I'm confident that even a catatonic Kirby could beat these guys (I don't even know if he drinks!).

I started to compare it to "me vs Carl Lewis", but even Carl Lewis might break his leg, pull up lame, something, there would be a mathematical CHANCE I could beat him in a 100m.

Is there any price you would take on one of these crumbs vs Kirby in a game of chess? And if you answer that question, don't be like that guy who jumped into the East River, who explained why after they fished him out: "A guy offered me a million-to-one that I couldn't jump over the river--I was pretty sure I couldn't do it, but I had to bet it for value!"
You know you can't bet on an event when the outcome is known. I also know that Kirby did well enough on Jeopardy that I remember him and have never stepped foot in the state you are in.

Edit to add: you could do something with a clock to make it so you could gamble against Kirby.
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11-13-2012 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
Edit to add: you could do something with a clock to make it so you could gamble against Kirby.
OK, now we're getting somewhere!

Trouble is, give Kirby 1:00 and his opponent A MONTH, and I STILL don't think you can make the line high enough! Then again, if his opponent had a month, he could always try to stay awake longer and time his moves accordingly...
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11-13-2012 , 08:51 PM
I would take the bet if the amount I would win was large enough so that if I gave Kirby half, he would throw the match.
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11-15-2012 , 05:04 AM
AA vs. JJ

AAJJX

Time game. Not jackpot eligible. =(

Oh and it was a 16/32 game. Anyone ever deal one of those before? =P
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11-15-2012 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
AA vs. JJ

AAJJX

Time game. Not jackpot eligible. =(

Oh and it was a 16/32 game. Anyone ever deal one of those before? =P
How many bets went in? Assuming no cap heads-up.
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11-15-2012 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by IHeartEmoKids
How many bets went in? Assuming no cap heads-up.
Seven - the two players are on friendly terms. She finally called and said "If you've got pocket aces, you're good."

It was a wild game. 16/32 played with 2 dollar chips. They were having a lot of fun splashing around with tons and tons of peach colored chips. I wanted to get to the break room to PM a few 2+2ers telling them what a good game was running, but I never got a chance to leave the room.
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11-15-2012 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
AA vs. JJ

AAJJX

Time game. Not jackpot eligible. =(

Oh and it was a 16/32 game. Anyone ever deal one of those before? =P
I saw it listed on BPL and was tempted to head down there. But I had to move furniture back since we just had our carpets cleaned.

When I went, also on a Wed night, we did a round of 16/32 because all 7 of us had overs buttons. I hope this continues to get traction, and I'll be making more appearances.

Was anyone playing with overs at 16/32?


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I wanted to get to the break room to PM a few 2+2ers telling them what a good game was running, but I never got a chance to leave the room.
Yeah, don't do that. Especially since you don't have my number
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11-15-2012 , 03:37 PM
Board shows 8665 on the turn, three diamonds. Two players in a low-limit game put in eight bets. I'm thinking, "They GOTTA have it." Player on my right is certainly chirping like HE has it. Player on my left is a timid girl--could she even put in eight bets without an unbeatable hand? But she's the one who finally backs down and calls.

River is another 6, board now shows 86656. What???? Well, obv, they didn't have it on the turn, but now they've GOT to have it, right?

Spoiler:
I can't remember the action on the river. Guy had straight-flush. Girl had 85.
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11-15-2012 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Was anyone playing with overs at 16/32?
When I was dealing 4 people had them.
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