This is a product of the room. It doesn't *start* with "F- PIECE OF S- DEALERS, YOU SHOULD ALL BE F- SHOT!", it starts smaller, and if not policed immediately, grows bolder.

Uh yeah. I'm not saying a word to that guy. That's an immediate floor call and a security escort out of the building and probably additional escalation of being barred.

Also YTF is right, which is why curtailing gateway behavior is important.

I’ve yelled at dealers I think only three times. The first time the dealer was distracted chatting and asked about the hand. I yelled at her, but apologized afterwards. Next, a had lost a pot and the dealer miscounted to the tune of 190$. The final one, I was on mega, monkey tilt and kind of snapped because I was facing an all in situation and the dealer was trying to flag down the floor or something and generally moving about (I was in seat one). I yelled, “Would you please sit...” before I caught myself. I apologized profusely and left.

Otherwise, people who yell at the dealers for dumb **** are scum and need to be smacked down.

Obviously there are a few people that yell at dealers and the real problem repeat offenders are generally dealt with through bans and whatnot. I'd say at least half the time you see a dealer getting yelled at, it's situations like yours. Food for thought.

Man I’m so sick of where I work. They let the players run the ****in room... just got hired at Wynn, looking so forward to my transfer. Listen to this...

Middle of my down, guy accuses me of 6-12 months ago “I made fun of him for being gay at the table”...

Mind you, I’ve never seen nor met this guy before. That night was the first time I’ve ever seen/talked/met/interacted with him.

So anyway, in the middle of my down he accuses me of making fun of him for being gay “like a year ago”.

I ask him what he’s talking about, I tell him I’m sorry that happened to you, but you must have me confused with someone else.

We go back and forth for a couple minutes.

Finally, he says “You know man, I don’t know why you have so much hate in your heart. But you better watch what you say, or else you’re gonna get hurt.” Which is hysterical because I myself am gay. Like I wanted to say to him that’s literally impossible but I didn’t want to out myself to the entire table filled with regs.

I call the floor.

They take him into the office. The poker Director happens to be working this particular night because it’s a busy Friday.

The shift supervisor (who is also gay, and knows that I am also gay) and the director speak to him.

You know what they did?

They gave him a ****ing warning.

I was looking over my shoulder the entire night.

I asked another floor (the one who told him they needed to see him in the office) what the outcome of the situation was and he told me that this guy was a psycho and something was “definitely off about this guy”.

Anyway, after they talked to him he wound up leaving on his own. But I just couldn’t believe that they didn’t 86 him. I mean, how the hell can a customer not only threaten one of your employees, but also accuse them of something they could never possibly do, and the guy doesn’t kicked out????

God damn, this pissed me off to another level. I’ll tell you guys right now, if he comes back and I’m designated to go push his table, I will refuse. I don’t feel safe. This guy was a nutjob. He had this psycho look in his eyes. I’ve been threatened before, even had a guy tell me his was “going to ****ing kill me” but I was never nervous about it because I could tell it was just anger.

This guy scared the crap out of me.

Anyway, I’m so sick of this crap. Management doesn’t have our backs at all. For instance, just last week we had a guy in Omaha rip up his cards in half. Floor was called. They didn’t even say a word to him! The floor just got a new deck, dropped it off, then left. Is this real life?

This is the kind of crap that makes me want to leave. It’s a steady job, always busy, and very consistent. But I can’t conprehend the way management thinks.

Anyway, I very much so look forward to transferring out of here.

Yikes. I feel bad for anyone working at a place like that. Once I was informed of what he did/said, there would be no trip to the office. He's gone and I make it a spectacle for everyone to see that homey don't play that in my room. You would also have the option to get off that table and out of the room for a bit to take a little relief from that nonsense if you wanted to. Plus an escort to your car after your shift. I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Terrible management there.

Hope it's better at the new place, CoS.

Saw a similar thing once, but without the hostility, so I'm not comparing this to your story: pretty girl at the table, all the Romeos are flirting with her. One says, "I've played with you before, you called me a (whatever)."

"That doesn't sound like anything I would ever say to anybody. I don't even use that word." He stuck by his story. She started questioning where/when that happened. "Here, about a year or two ago."

She then informed him that this was her first time in the room.

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Yeah, everyone ELSE who does what you do is "scum". Not you, tho. It's different when you do it.

It never even OCCURS to me to yell at a dealer who miscounts a pot, or a cashier who can't mentally calculate how much change I'm due, or any of the other countless imcompetent folks we run into every single day.

Do you do this everywhere, or just when you're gambling for money? I can see how that would exacerbate things, and I know this can be a frustrating game...but good grief, keep it in perspective. It's a game! It's not a referendum on your intelligence, it's not a measure of your self-worth. If the stakes are affecting you that much, find a smaller game. If you need to win every hand you play, you're in for a lifetime of frustration. Why do that to yourself?

File an incident report, threaten legal action. Say you’re scared for your life, which isn’t a stretch at all based on the story and how you told it. Seriously pal...you might be saving someone’s life, or your own, and you would be doing a ton to help your coworkers and hurt this awful person and all the other awful people letting all this garbage fester and pile up.

Table started freaking out the other day saying it smelled like there was a gas leak. Maintenance was called and couldn't figure out why it was only around one table.

Eventually we figured out it was actually the durian flavored candy a player was scarfing down. It smelled like a mixture of natural gas and sewage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian

Question to dealers who play: When you notice a player isn't tipping the dealer do you say or do anything?

I notice that stuff. Sometimes it's because the player takes his time - he last time right as I was about to say something (not even sure what exactly, ha!) the player tossed a chip to the dealer.

Last time I played a guy directly on my left didn't tip despite winning several pots and I felt bad for not saying anything.

I recall one time I was playing in Atlantic City and a guy won a huge pot thanks to a good river card and it looked like he wouldn't tip. I said something like, "She saved you with that river, you should take good care of her." He tossed her a redbird and she silently mouthed "thank you" to me as she dropped it. But I was able to make that sound somewhat friendly and fit into the circumstance.

I can see honor among thieves, but I can also see not wanting to get into a confrontation while playing. At the same time, the handful of times when a player got on a non-tipping player while I was dealing filled me with glee and sometimes resulted in a tip.

There was a case where a player tipped me without winning a pot and announced that they were tipping because "that guy didn't". I can see me doing that but I also could see me being punched out whereas the person who did it was a young woman.

Anyway, just wondering how you guys handle it.

If it is a player who is new, and sitting near me, I will say something.

Once I had a drunk guy at my table playing lots of pots and not tipping. I actually threw the dealer a chip of my own after the guy won a pot. Wanted the guy to stay at the table.

Almost never. If it comes up I might speak up, but I tend not to pay too much attention to how other players tip when I'm playing. On occasion if a loud, boisterous player (typically plied with liquor) is winning big pots, I might egg him on. "You just won a 500 dollar pot and you only give the dealer a red bird?"

I've kicked my dog only 3 times. One time I was trying to sleep and she woke me up because she wanted to be let out. Another time I left food on the coffee table and she ate it while I was out and left a mess. And once when I had a bad day at work I came home and kicked her but then I felt bad about it and gave her a biscuit.

I hate people who abuse animals.

Only when he's running his mouth about what a big tipper he is. Folks who say that outloud, never are.

And never when I'm playing in the same town where I work.

Shaming someone for giving $5 on a $500 pot is ridiculous, especially if they may be intoxicated and not know better.

I wouldn't say anything other than discreetly to someone who I am pretty sure is new to casino poker.

I don't think there's any shame involved. Maybe you have to be there.

What is ridiculous is when you're dealing to the intoxicated player and have to call the floor on him because he keeps exposing his cards or acting out of turn and the entire table gives you looks of dismay because they're all hoping to be the player who sends the drunk guy home without any money and they're afraid he might get fed up and leave before he has a chance to spew.

I've seen people do that before. You are trying to guilt him into giving more than what is already a very good tip, by making him feel like it isn't sufficient. It's really not OK.

And I've been there before on having to walk the line on keeping the game moving and professional and having the drunk guy stay happy so everyone keeps him in the game. It definitely does suck.

Very rarely, only times I have in the past is if there's a good dealer in the box and he/she keeps hitting the same stiff over and over and over and over in one down, then I'll make sure the stiff notices me toss a few bucks to the dealer and I'll say something like "here's a few bucks since you're not making any money this down"...and that's if it's obvious the player has been around poker for awhile and knows the drill, if there's a chance the player is new to poker and doesn't know any better then I'm not doing anything that might potentially embarrass that player, tough luck dealer


I'm more than happy to get a redbird on a $500 pot on any day of the week under any circumstances, it's pretty ridiculous that any player would ever get shamed in that instance.

If an out-of-line drunk guy is tipping redbirds, he gets a TON of leeway from me when I'm dealing. If an out-of-line drunk guy is not tipping, unless the other 8 players are footing the bill, I have no problem calling the floor over to try to put an end to their gravy train.

We recently renovated and it is now about 3x the distance to get a table assignment + the time to get to the new table once you figure out where it is. Not really a huge issue but a real PIA for anyone with mobility issues. 5 minute breaks stink.

Is it room dependent on if a dealer can tell someone if they've been tipped or not? I always tip at least $1 on every pot won and I'm sure I've forgotten a time or two. I miss the old way of rake in my room where they would include a lammer in the pot for the player to put the rake on and hand to the dealer. It always reminded me to tip.

Do you mean telling a player the truth if they asked whether they tipped, or just saying "hey you forgot to tip" after the hand?

For the former I've heard of rooms that don't allow it but I've always told the truth.

For the latter, I think it's universal that dealers are not supposed to solicit for tips. Some rooms don't really enforce it, though, so some dealers start taking the initiative. I haven't gone down that path myself but it is tough when I see others doing it and being rewarded.

1) Never heard of a 'room' policy as to the 'did I' question. More so the Dealer can decide how they want to handle it.
... A) Some Dealers always say yes even if it's no
... B) Some Dealers say the truth .. yes, no or don't remember
... C) Some Dealers say 'I always say yes'
... D) There are many more possible phrases depending on the relationship between the two parties. I've seen where a Player will try to set up the Dealer to see if they will lie or twist the answer in some way

2) The last thing a room wants is for the Players to really 'see' the rake, but that 'old' system certainly keeps things transparent!! GL

Yeah it was more of a question as far as can a dealer answer if I ask if I forgot? Sometimes I forget, and if I did forget I feel guilty about it.

I'm just a rec player myself, but I feel its important for me to tip because I can't play and enjoy what free time I have without the dealers doing their thing.

As a player, I'd be pretty irritated if I had a dealer whose response felt to me like something other than "B."

Assuming a player is asking because he's genuinely not sure if he tipped, I can't see the downside in answering honestly.

One downside is if it's against room rules. I have not worked in a room with the rule that a dealer had to always answer that he or she had been tipped even if that wasn't the case, but I have heard from dealers who have.

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