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05-27-2013 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bmurph
i didn't "see" this one happen, but i had to deal with the aftermath: tourney is playing the last hand before break, the player in seat 6 has folded his hand and left the table. the players in seat 4 and 7 wind up getting all in. the player in seat 7 wins.

when everyone returns from break, the player in seat 6 comes back to a seat with no chips.

upon some investigation, it turns out that when shoving the last pot to seat 7, the dealer included the chips from seat 6.

(of course, the push had gone through during the break, so the dealer who caused the error was no longer at the table, just to make matters even more difficult.)
So this just happened again tonight. Except it was seats 8 & 9 this time.
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05-27-2013 , 02:29 PM
Playing in a 1/2 game several years ago at a seneca property in wny. Late night, the game is very deep. 3 ways to the flop, first player has 300bb, the others cover. QT5 flop. First to act bets, the player in the middle calls, last player raises. First to act goes all in, middle guy snap calls. Last to act goes in the tank for a long time. Long enough i guess everyone stopped paying attention.. He finally calls. Instead of actually counting out the side pot the second and third players remaining stacks (after pf action and the first postflop bet had been pulled in) simply became the side. Players show TT, QQ, 55 respectivley. TT sucks out on the river for the main, but the pot was light by 200 or so...
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05-27-2013 , 06:33 PM
I went all in for my last $17. Dealer quickly counted it as $22. There were 3-4 people in the pot so would have been an extra $15 if I had won, but I lost.
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05-27-2013 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blackjack32
I went all in for my last $17. Dealer quickly counted it as $22. There were 3-4 people in the pot so would have been an extra $15 if I had won, but I lost.
A five dollar counting mistake is the biggest mistake you've ever seen a dealer make? You my friend are running well.
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05-27-2013 , 06:59 PM
Garden City (San Jose) had just added Holdem and dealers. Prior to that, the room was mostly Ace-5 Lowball, self-dealt. Many of the new dealers had come from Nevada or SoCal and had never dealt Lowball.

Lowball. $30 Limit. 3 way action, multiple raises. Each announces they want one card.

Dealer burns and puts out the flop:

3 3 3
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05-27-2013 , 09:15 PM
Daily Tournament last week at Showboat.

One player was all in preflop, with 4 other players still in. Dealer burned, floped, and then insta burned, turned, burned and rivered. She did it so quickly, no one at the table was able to stop her.

Floor was called, and said that the turn and river, and the burn cards for those cards had to be shuffled back in to the deck, the proper call.

One player decided to bet the flop before the new turn came out. Everyone folded.

The worst part, with the old turn and river, the all in player would have won a big hand. After the new cards came out, the all in player was eliminated.
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05-28-2013 , 10:42 AM
WSOP-C event, the dealer was moving around on break and bumped the table pretty hard, knocking down 3 or 4 chip stacks from seats 7-10 into one big pile of chips. I was in the 3 seat, and the 2 seat and I watched the whole thing happen. The dealer wouldn't even admit to doing it, said the chips "just fell over."

They didn't go to camera to re-create the stacks, just based it on what everyone thought "looked" right, although I'm pretty sure the 7 seat got more than she should have. <Shrug> Just one more reason why I don't like when people tower their stacks, and why you should always count your chips before leaving the table for a break.
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05-29-2013 , 08:53 AM
Watching my buddy at a blackjack table at Tampa Hard rock. Lady had $500 in green chips and asks for a color up. The dealer changes it for a $500 chip and pushes it to her but not all the way leaving it on the bet marker. The lady is talking to someone behind her and is not paying attention. The dealer then begins to deal the next hand giving this lady's $500 bet which wasn't supposed to be out there a Blackjack. The lady looked at my buddy stunned and gave him a high five, tipped the dealer $10 and walked away.

Another funny story was playing at a smaller room in tampa where they dont have auto shufflers. This guy wins a hand with AA. The very next hand he wins again with AA. One player called him out to the dealer that he never gave back his cards and he played the same hand 2x. Apparently the other 2 cards that the dealer delt him were under the table. haha
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05-29-2013 , 08:46 PM
$400-800 head up mix game with two known players around the world.

on the river, at showdown, each player has 6 bets in front of him.

Famous guy #1: "Live deuce" (shows a 2 and some other card to make a sucky 8-low)

Famous guy #2: "9 high straight and a live deuce"

Both players show their hands.

Being the good dealer I am: "Famous guy #2 has a 6 high straight for low and 9 high straight for high and a scoop".

So both players did not recognize Famous guy #2 had 6-2 in his hand completing a 65432 low, while opponent had an 8 low.

Lets change this to biggest mistakes you've ever seen a player make. Has as much value as this thread.
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05-29-2013 , 09:34 PM
told by TJ Cloutier but i heard it 1st from Al's son


>One of the baddest of the bad beats I've ever seen happened several years ago at the Bicycle Club. I was playing in a no-limit hold'em side game with Al Krux, a very fine player who has made several appearances at the final table of the Big One at the World Series of Poker. But Al wasn't doing very well in this game, and he was losing most of his money. He brought in the hand for his case chips, $435. Two seats away, a player was holding his hand up in the air so that he could see it while a masseuse was giving him a rub down. His opponent to his left could see the cards, too. This player decided not to call and threw his hand away.

It got around to me sitting on the button right next to the casino dealer, and I called the $435 with two tens. "This might be the best hand here, and Al's all in so I can't lose any more than $435," I thought. But the dealer didn't see that I had called and so she dropped the deck on the muck. She asked for a ruling. The floorman said that she had to reshuffle all of the cards except the two hands that Al and I were holding.

The flop came K-10-4. We turned our cards over and Al had pocket kings against my pocket tens. We both had flopped a set. On fourth street came another ten, giving me four tens and winning the money. But the kicker to this story is that the guy who had held his hand up before the flop had been dealt the two tens that came out on the flop after the reshuffle! The only way I could possibly have won against Al's hand was for the dealer to make a mistake, reshuffle those two tens back into the deck, and bring them back out again on the flop and fourth street. That ended Al's day, and I never won another pot that session.
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05-29-2013 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JayJune

The only way I could possibly have won against Al's hand
Nope. Still had a small ( 1 in 30 -- better odds than throwing boxcars @ dice or hitting 00 @ roulette ) chance.
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06-03-2013 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bigfishead
$400-800 head up mix game with two known players around the world.

on the river, at showdown, each player has 6 bets in front of him.

Famous guy #1: "Live deuce" (shows a 2 and some other card to make a sucky 8-low)

Famous guy #2: "9 high straight and a live deuce"

Both players show their hands.

Being the good dealer I am: "Famous guy #2 has a 6 high straight for low and 9 high straight for high and a scoop".

So both players did not recognize Famous guy #2 had 6-2 in his hand completing a 65432 low, while opponent had an 8 low.

Lets change this to biggest mistakes you've ever seen a player make. Has as much value as this thread.
Am I looking at this wrong or does Famous guy #2 have 8 cards, 2 through 9?
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06-03-2013 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by llDayo
Am I looking at this wrong or does Famous guy #2 have 8 cards, 2 through 9?
Omaha?
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06-03-2013 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Omaha?
Yes O/8
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06-03-2013 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bigfishead
Yes O/8
Thank you! Makes more sense now. Mondays....
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04-24-2021 , 12:15 AM
Happened today. Playing in a tournament. I have a stack of apx 7k. I limp call 800. SB raises to 2100, bb folds, utg calls and it folds back to me at the button. I shove the rest of my 7k. Dealer pulls my raise into the pot and rolls the flop. As sb checks, I ask the dealer if there was a mistake. I thought maybe I misread the sb raise and maybe I was all in for less? She flat out ignored me and they fly through turn and river. I win the hand and get the pot. Utg gets a "side pot" but I count chips and it's only 6.3k. I stop the table and ask what the F happened to my chips. She said I called for less. I called the floor and they reviewed the tape to confirm I was right. Floor never gave me an official verdict until after I cashed out of the tournament in 6th a few hours later. They told me I was correct but there was nothing they could do about it at the time of the hand so they left it as is.

This was by far the worst case of incompetence with a dealer and a floor I've ever experienced. I won a 3 way all in and lost chips.
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04-24-2021 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by W0nka
Dealer pulls my raise into the pot and rolls the flop
"HOLD UP THERE DEALER, DID THEY CALL MY RAISE?"

As soon as the dealer drags my chips into the pot I'm
doing every thing I can to stop the him from bringing the flop.

Yell, put my hands where the flop goes.

Yes, dealer mistake but also your mistake.

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Originally Posted by W0nka
I thought maybe I misread the sb raise and maybe I was all in for less?
You have to pay closer attention so you know the situation.
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04-24-2021 , 05:27 AM
The most common costly mistake that I have seen happen a few times is a dealer losing track of who is eligible for the side pot. I’ve had to stop a dealer from pushing a side pot to someone who is ineligible, or fail to push the side pot to someone who is eligible to win it because they thought they were all-in for the main.
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04-24-2021 , 06:22 AM
Not sure how often a dealers mistake is actually a mistake or them trying to favor a friend of theirs.

I had one similar to OP. I raised and the person throws a chip in and calls. I show my hand and other player mucks and dealer begins pushing me the pot minus the call. Before It gets close I make the dealer stop and say the other player did not put his call into the pot. Both dealer and player make a grumpy expression and dealer tries to say he did collect it but others at the table speak up that he did not. Floor was called and I got my pot. This casino made a few other mistakes that favored a few players.

Had another situation where I called all in and lost and they shoved my greater stack to the winner even though he had a lot less chips. I again stopped it but by then the dealer had already mixed all the chips together. Had to call floor again and cameras was able to get me my remaining chips back. This I think was not on purpose though as at this casino I am one of the regulars and the pot was shoved to a player Iv never seen.

Each time something like this happens I learn and adapt my play to help prevent it from happening in the future.

1: Make sure people actually put chips into the pot. I watch the pots I am in to make sure money is added properly. I am surprised how often I see mistakes where people get "discounts" when calling. Im not afraid to let the dealer know the pot size is not correct and if needed to get cameras involved.

2: Do not muck or allow my cards to be mucked without having the pot sent my way and if it is high hand eligible to have it verified. If this means keeping my cards as close to me as possible until then so be it. Have had dealers try to muck my cards before or attempt to say I folded when I did not. Protect your cards.

3: Always verify action. Do not assume someone has folded or called your bet until there cards are in the muck or money is in the middle. This has actually gotten worse lately as with mask and plexiglass the shitbags are trying to angle shoot this as saying it was a fold/call/all-in.

4: Do not put more chips in than necessary. If making a shove/big bet I will place it out and as soon as I get a call I will pull any excess back. I do not leave the excess out there for the dealer to potentially take.
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04-24-2021 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by madangrypally
Not sure how often a dealers mistake is actually a mistake or them trying to favor a friend of theirs.
A dealer purposely stealing chips from one player to give to another is very rare, at least in real card rooms. The reward is too low and chances of being caught are too high. The worst I've seen that I believe was intentional was a dealer pulling in an extra $5 from a drunk guy calling a bet against an off duty dealer. I've heard stories about home games but don't have any first hand experience with them.

I have seen dealers try to cover up mistakes but don't think it's favoritism. It's a combination of laziness, not wanting to get in trouble, and most of all not wanting to stop the action because it will cut into their hands per hour.

I try to watch hands I'm not in to see if the dealer is being careful with counting bets and isn't making mistakes. If I see them being sloppy I know to watch them when I'm in a pot.
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04-24-2021 , 10:19 AM
I went all in on the river for $1000 and the other player tanked for a while. Eventually I saw a black chip roll in to the pot. I looked at the dealer and the dealer told me he called, so I turned over my hand which was top 2. Then the dealer asked the guy if he called! He said he didn't call and the floor ruled in his favor. I'm not sure if he was trying to call or not, but I definitely got freerolled
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04-25-2021 , 12:10 AM
5 way pot 5/5NL. I'm third to act at a table full of fish, the only tight player is directly to my right and he has me covered. I have 88 on a ten high flop. SB bets small into bloated pot, I'm not folding unless tighty raises.

Tighty tanks for a minute then mumbles something I can't make out. Dealer loudly exclaims ALL IN and moves his hand towards me. I fold. Tighty folds. WTF, you told me he was all in? What? No, I was telling a story to the floor behind me. My cards are gone.

Remaining players call, turn 8, river A. I was ahead on the flop, crazy action when 2 players hit their A.

After the dealer leaves a couple of players tell me they also thought the guy went all in. I guess I should have paused for a minute to verify but it seemed really clear.
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04-25-2021 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
"HOLD UP THERE DEALER, DID THEY CALL MY RAISE?"

As soon as the dealer drags my chips into the pot I'm
doing every thing I can to stop the him from bringing the flop.

Yell, put my hands where the flop goes.

Yes, dealer mistake but also your mistake.


You have to pay closer attention so you know the situation.
One of the best lessons I learned playing live poker was how to say 'DEALER STOP' in an authoritative but not confrontational voice. This is critical to stop the dealer mistake from getting compounded or obfuscated. You need to be firm, but you don't want it to be adversarial.

Don't worry that many, even most of the times, you will wrong and the dealer right. You are absolutely entitled to stop play to protect your action.
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04-25-2021 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Reducto
I guess I should have paused for a minute to verify but it seemed really clear.
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Originally Posted by Reducto
Tighty tanks for a minute then mumbles something I can't make out.
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04-25-2021 , 08:00 PM
5/10 NL

Pretty big whale limps, I open QJss, he calls. Flop Ks Tx 9s he checks, I bet, he calls. Turn 9x he checks, I am thinking about my sizing and dealer just randomly puts out the river; it's the Ts. She goes "oops my bad, that will be shuffed back in."

I'm like WTF in my head, but I still have a straight so I bet. Fish throws his hands up and folds JTo face up, he was pissed because he was gonna call again and would have made Tens full and now he's oi and folds. Of course I would have had a straight flush with 4k behind, lol. Still tilts me because she didn't apologize for her mistake or even acknowledge the circumstances and real $ stolen.
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