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12-18-2013 , 05:38 AM
smaller than 2 5 live games in europe do not exist. u need to play tournaments. all in all london, madrid, barcelona, just pick 5% to 10 or comparable games, the relative rake being nlhe, plo 100 level at 2 5, and 200 level at 5 10 thats a popular game in spain, and in france they play 5 and maybe 6 card plo also. outside of europe there is only vegas as the rake is too high elsewhere. i heard plo is pretty dead in london and the only place is vic, but 2 5 runs there sometimes and with a reasonable rake. the 2nd best place might be madrid but its hot during summer and no beach.
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12-18-2013 , 08:41 AM
forget Rozvadov, very little action outside bigger tournaments and a rake capped at $20 (but you get the food for free lol)

they brand themselves as europe's poker hotspot but that's certainly not true for cash games
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12-18-2013 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MKarne
smaller than 2 5 live games in europe do not exist. u need to play tournaments. all in all london, madrid, barcelona, just pick 5% to 10 or comparable games, the relative rake being nlhe, plo 100 level at 2 5, and 200 level at 5 10 thats a popular game in spain, and in france they play 5 and maybe 6 card plo also. outside of europe there is only vegas as the rake is too high elsewhere. i heard plo is pretty dead in london and the only place is vic, but 2 5 runs there sometimes and with a reasonable rake. the 2nd best place might be madrid but its hot during summer and no beach.
It's not true the Vic is the only place that runs PLO, it is running often at the Vic but also regularly if not always at Aspers and you'll find a table open (on request) quite often at the Empire and Hippodrome.
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12-18-2013 , 09:58 AM
+1

I would suggest following as many rooms in as many countries/cities as you can find on Twitter to see what games are running at what times of day.

There has been PLO at Aspers (1/1 and 1/2) and 1/2 PLO at the Hippo nearly every night for the last week or so. Empire had PLO once or twice last week and also 1 2/5 game.

All this information gathered just from checking Twitter every once in a while.
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12-18-2013 , 04:27 PM
The gossip about Rozvadov is that there is smoking, and there are games from 8PM-4AM and a lot of Germans go there because in Germany there is some bad gambling law for poker so there are good games game. Althrough Germans online are mostly shortstackers.

If I saw well, everywhere in Spain the minimum buyin is 25bb, thats 50€ at 1/2, are many people sitting there and waiting for a premium hand? How much is the rake? Is there smoke coming into the rooms from the smoking area for example in Madrid?

In Belgium there is Casino Namur, they wrote: "We do offer cashgames everyday in the casino. NLH, PLO and mixed (NLH/PLO). Stakes are starting at 2/2.
Buy-in: 2-2 NLH 50-300€, 2-4 NLH, 2-2 PLO, 2-2 Mixed 100-500€, 5-5 NLH, 2-4 PLO 200-1000, 5-10 500- No max. Higher games upon request.
We open cashgames everyday from 16h (15h weekend) untill 4h at night.
During the week we have around 4 tables running.
Smoking is not allowed at the tables, there are smoking cabins nearby."
and Viage:
"We have an average of 4 to 6 tables of cash games open during the week. We have a smoking area next to the poker room." On their homepage they have 2-2 to 10-20, and Omaha 2-4 5-5. The rake is at 2-2 is huge if I undestood well its 7.5% plus 4€ per hour. So it doesnt worth. Every higher stakes than 2-2 has 5% rake with 20€ maximum. The smoking area is next to the poker area, maybe the smoke is coming in, I dont know. Maybe you can play Omaha in these two places too, and Viage is maybe good for higher stakes than 2-2. Has anyone played 2-2 in Namur? It sounds pretty good.

In London the Empire has Omaha.
NO LIMIT HOLD’EM
Blind (optional) Min buy-in Max buy-in
£1 - £2 (£5) £50 £400
£1 - £3 (£6/£12) £100 £1000
£2 - £5 (£10/£20) £250 £3000
POT LIMIT OMAHA
Blind (optional) Min buy-in Max buy-in
£1 - £2 (£5) £50 NONE
£1 - £3 (£6/£12) £100 NONE
ALL GAMES SPECIFIED WILL BE RAKED AT 5% WITH A CAP OF £10 (£5 between 8am and 2pm)
£1 extra will be deducted from pots over £25 in all No Limit Hold’em games. This will contribute to the Bad Beat Jackpot."
It seems like London despite the huge accomodation fees has quite many games. Althrough I dont know how juicy are these, and if there are more juicy games elsewhere. 1/2 2-2 games are nearly everywhere, so it would be better to play with whales in big average pot games, than in reg-filled and cigarettesmoke-filled games with a lot of tight 25bb shortstackers.

Last edited by ciwf; 12-18-2013 at 04:52 PM.
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12-23-2013 , 08:10 AM
"London offers much more in culture"

I heard the opposite, that in the English houses heat insulation is zero, non-plastered, three degrees in the bathroom in winter, the hot water is often only lukewarm, cracking floor, thin walls, at night you hear if another resident turns around in bed. Often there is hole in the wall, slugs move on the carpet, no lock on doors. Dirt, mold wherever you look. The taps are not able to produce warm water, separate tap for cold and hot water. This is the description of the average British house 90%, and not only the ones given to foreigners. It sounds like not an "offer from culture", but rather like terrible things you need to bear besides the bad weather, big expenses, big distances and big crowds.
How can you enjoy living there?

"There has been PLO at Aspers "

Aspers is in Stratford, I Googled it and its written that Stratford in East London is awarded the accolade as the country's worst crime hotspot with stealing, robberies and things like that. Is it safe to walk there, especially in and out of a casino in the night?

"Another thing that you may need to consider. Is how many actual hours are tables running? Netherlands, its from 8 PM till maybe 2 AM."

More important that in Amsterdam there is 10% rake up to 10€, and 25bb minimum buyin at 2-2 and 2-4. Is it even beatable?

Last edited by ciwf; 12-23-2013 at 08:34 AM.
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12-23-2013 , 08:12 AM
Berlin, cause it is less expensive then london
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12-23-2013 , 08:20 AM
Yea but london has sick rake in mpst plaves or ?

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12-23-2013 , 08:38 AM
But in Berlin, Spielbank there is only ultratight 1-2 and about 20€ tournaments if I remember well. And German players love to buy in shortstack. Cheaper than London, just you are not able to make normal money.

No, London has low rakes, and many games, but expenses are high and life conditions are horrible from what I heard. Unless of course if you are a tourist, who lives in an expensive hotel near the casino for three days.

Last edited by ciwf; 12-23-2013 at 08:47 AM.
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12-25-2013 , 01:09 PM
What are the rooms right in downtown prague (near the statue) like?
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12-25-2013 , 06:13 PM
U have showdowpoker room and ambassador casino there....live cash games tracking pokerman.cz

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12-25-2013 , 07:23 PM
What are they like? Rake? Drinks? Player pool?
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12-27-2013 , 02:30 PM
In the Showdown 10/20 Czk, rake is 5%, players are smoking at the cash tables, because it's allowed... I don't like smoking at the tables. Basis of the stake players probably don't have a ton of money eighter.

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12-27-2013 , 02:41 PM
Do you know some juicy casinos somewhere, 1/2 2/2 with very juicy games and no smoking?
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12-27-2013 , 02:56 PM
Go somewhere where you have a friend or relative. Problems of adapting to a new place, getting settled etc. far outweigh rake concerns.
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05-11-2014 , 12:39 PM
Its not compulsory to settle. Any info about German or Belgiumish or Italian or other games?

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05-28-2014 , 07:11 AM
Any good casinos in a warm, sunny place in Europe?
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01-09-2015 , 11:09 AM
The Grand Barcelona I think. But very long waiting list and game closed at 4am when I was there. So are the best places Vienna and London for 1/2? Vienna has very smoky cashgames, and if i know well rake is high + tip. Prague has smoking in every casino too, right? So basically the best place is London? How much win a month is possible if you lets say a regular, who plays 1/2 in the Vic or Empire or Hippodrome every day? Isnt it better to just get a job?
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12-28-2015 , 09:05 PM
How is Prague?
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01-27-2016 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fuluck
How is Prague?
Smoky. Ambassador has one 25/50 (1/2) table running most nights with 3 10/20 (40c/80cent) tables. Showdown is all 10/20 with the occasional higher plo game. The Hilton is only place with a regular 50/100 game running.Tbh I wouldn't recommend Prague for live cash but is a lovely city

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01-27-2016 , 10:54 AM
All I can add to this thread is "not Stockholm".

The games are juicy enough all right. Stacking off when someone hits an ace is not uncommon. but the living expenses will kill you. That is if you're prepared to sit for thirty years on a waiting list to rent an apartment.

On the positive side (for your BR), tipping the dealers and/or floor-staff is illegal.
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01-30-2016 , 10:41 AM
gonna hit up spielbank potsdamerplatz tonight in berlin for the 200EUR bounty tournament, as part of their AAA poker series. never played in germany before, this should be amusing to say the least.
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01-02-2017 , 07:54 AM
Hi all, what is the current rake in Berlin for 1/2-2/5 games?
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01-02-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Hi all, what is the current rake in Berlin for 1/2-2/5 games?
http://www.spielbank-berlin.de/poker...ab01042013.pdf
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01-28-2017 , 05:21 AM
What are the games like in Lisbon?
Allowed to smoke at the cash games?
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