Rivers Schenectady banned me for life like 7 years ago and only reason they’ll offer is “suspicious gaming activity.” It could be for anything though I guess and tough for me to really apologize specifically for something if I were to write a letter requesting to appeal the ban. Any suggestions on how to get unbanned from a casino? specifically looking for insight from people who have experienced this before. Thanks.

Write a letter (old school) to the head of security.

That is what people i know have done to become unbanned.

This ^^ deliver and apologize in person and hope they forgive you.

7 years is a long time, perhaps they won't even remember

They remember. I called them a few weeks ago and they said I’m still banned for life and suggested writing letter. I did that years ago and they ignored so I called a couple times spoke to VP and he said still banned try again next year. ***********.

You really don't know what (they think) you did to get banned?

Suspicious gaming activity is pretty generic, but you can at least assume it has to do with gaming, as opposed to being drunk/belligerent or causing some other issue.

Did you fancy yourself a card counter at blackjack? Move bets around at last second in roulette or craps? There's a lot of little things that throw up red flags, but a single instance almost never ends with a ban.

Writing a letter asking for reinstatement is the only way, but you need to be contrite, which starts with figuring out the cause for the ban and apologizing for that specifically.

Good Luck.

If he got caught counting cards he would of known exactly what he got banned for (been there, done that).

I find it extremely hard to believe that he has no idea why he was banned. I think the probability that he knows what got him banned is close to or above 99.99999998% but that's just me.

lol i mean i have an idea but def not 99.9999% sure like you claim. they mentioned its something about the cashier. i guess maybe they don't like when you buy in for $5k in $2 bills shrug

So you were laundering money.
Or they suspect you were.

You're probably not going to get the ban lifted. There's no upside for them to do so.

No I was not. I just was collecting cool $2 bills and chose to buy in chips with the rest of them cuz I didn't want a whole bunch of $2 bills. Anyways, someone suggested I have a lawyer write a letter instead of myself and that would increase likelihood I'm unbanned. I guess that's worth a shot

It doesn't matter if you were or were not.

They THINK you were. That's all that matters.

Exchanging $5k in $2 bills is an unusual transaction. It looks like money laundering. And you have no way to show them, 7 years later, that it was not.

So you got banned for changing 2 dollar bills? How's that possible? The casinos (having been a casino manager on a boat) don't give a **** where the money came from. They only care about getting you to lose it. That's not why you got banned I can assure you.

If you have a variance with the cage you won't be able to play until you pay it back but I guess if it takes you a year to bring back the money they would still have a right to ban you.

I think the nazi mod bot deleted a post i'm not sure. getting sick of this stupid forum with the stupid highly sensitive bot. anyways I def don't owe the cage - or at least they didn't tell me I do

[QUOTE=Grimstard;58481580I just was collecting cool $2 bills and chose to buy in chips with the rest of them cuz I didn't want a whole bunch of $2 bills.[/QUOTE]

Not sure there are 2500 "cool" $2 ever printed. Any chance that a number of them have sequential serial numbers? And why not deposit them at a bank if you wanted to cash them in?

Not sure about the lawyer but for a letter I prefer to be succinct and not mention everything. Also don't put excuses but you don't have to necessarily take blame exactly.

"I'm writing to request being unbanned from casino and apologizing for the actions that led my banning blah blah blah. I hope to be allowed to play again there soon.

Thank you for your consideration"

mod: To the best of my knowledge I would see it if so. So...no.

best advice ive seen so far thanks

If they had a problem with tons of small bills, it seems like they would have just not taken them, or at least told you not to do it again, would be bizarre to ban you for that.
And actually that isn't even "gaming activity" by my definition anyway.

It would be unusual and a little annoying for someone to show up with $5k in $2 bills, but it would make sense. People collect them for a while then decide they'd rather have that money for gambling. Not really suspicious IMHO unless they think the bills could be fake or stolen.

There has to be something else, like you buy in with small bills all the time or you buy in, don't really play, then cash out again. A while ago someone mentioned getting kicked out for buying up large quantities of $1 bills, looking for cool/valuable ones, then selling them back. But yeah.. doing odd things at the cashier can get you banned and they aren't going to tell you specifically what it was.

If you can figure out why else you were on their radar maybe you can better craft your letter.

this is why and it won't be lifted.
the casino cage is not a bank

you tied up the line for what 20-30 minutes
and your action screams of trying to see if your fake bills mixed in will pass the scanner.

don't understand why anyone would drive by what a dozen or so banks to bring 2500 bills to a casino ;the whole thing REEKS of illegal activety and stupidity.

I am shocked that someone making these posts also ended up being banned by a casino.

I worked at the gaming commission after the fact and we have a beef as a result. Hence the middle finger. Matter of fact … middle finger to didace too.

Yup, shocking.

mod: to be clear, Grim is (I think) talking about a new AI bot we're using here on 2+2 now to automatically delete spam and certain other offensive posting. It's not perfect yet, so it has been having both false positives and false negatives according to reports.

Calling it a "nazi mod bot" is perhaps a little over the top, but just as an FYI I don't think he meant he thought the actual human mods were nazis, rather that the bot has at times been overaggressive, which it has been at times.

As info, I don't believe the bot has moderated any posts (for spam or content) by anyone here in CCP (yet).

Having said all the above, we don't allow personal attacks here in CCP. I'm going to leave the above posts up, but they are treading close to the line, as just a warning.

Also, so that it doesn't become confused, I did just (manually) remove another post by Grim in a different thread, for being low content, which is I think the first post of his to be moderated here in CCP. It said "lol". As a general rule, we remove low content posts here, though I'm more likely to leave it in if you're actually complimenting someone's joke rather than trolling their posts.

Thanks all. Good to see CCP with a little bit of activity these past couple days/weeks.

As somebody who has worked in casinos and sat through way too much anti-money laundering stuff, I don't see the correlation. It's annoying, but just buying in with a bunch of $2 bills is not enough to suspect money laundering. It would have to be what he did after buying in.

Fun fact: 99.3% of people banned from casinos are banned for absolutely no reason at all. Source: The individuals banned.

ETA: Between this and your stand-up thread, you don't really seem to have the most respectable word choice towards most people in casinos. I think it's very possible this is not exclusive to the forum and when something doesn't go your way, you don't conduct yourself is the best of ways. Would not be shocked if it was a very typical 'This guy is a complete twat and brings no value to the casino, **** them' ban and the "suspicious gaming activity" is just an excuse to ensure it never gets lifted even years later.

thanks for tryna humble me but....that place was a dump anyways and I probably was verbal about my opinion more than once. if that's enough to ban someone oh well