Well now we know the over/under for temp-ban is/was 300. Still open on the perma ban

My local casino has a change counting machine and encourages you to bring in your change and exchange it for cash (obviously hoping you will then proceed to gamble it, and more).

It tied up that cashier for a decent period of time and if when the casino turned their money in their bank told them say 10% of their $2 bills were counterfeit even if none of your were you are likely to get the blame.

For a debt they do have to accept or the debt would be thrown out in court.

Although in this case i assume he was making an exchange for chips in which case they would of been well within their right to refuse.

No. Here's an example.

just wear a mask and go in and play and see if they catch you, should be fun.

Is OP still on the same temp ban or a new one?

The OP is permanently banned on 2+2, too.

I am shocked!

I'd say it's disappointing, because now we'll never know the results.

But I think we do.

He could come back briefly with a new SN, and tell.

He doesn't need to. If he got rebanned here so fast, then we know he's not capable of getting unbanned from that casino, either.

That's an extreme example so they made an exception to the law, it was literally 3 tons.

Laws can be overruled sometimes doesn't mean it's not the law. If grim was paying a 5000 debt in $2 bills it's extremely unlikely they'd make a similar exception as it's actually feasible that it wasn't being done maliciously.

What law?

There wasn't an exception to the legal tender law. The judge ruled that the company acted maliciously and in bad faith by choosing that method to fulfill an arbitrated settlement.

This wasn't a simple case of racking up a debt. This was a case of the company agreeing to a settlement, and then going out of its way to acquire and then attempt delivery of 3 literal tons of coins. The judge found it as evidence that the payment was done maliciously, that they specifically acquired and then deliberately disorganized the coins before attempting to send them along as payment.

It had nothing to do with whether coins qualify as legal tender, and everything to do with the faithful and reasonable execution of a legal settlement.

Again, what law?

31 USC Section 5103

This is no different than a small business deciding not to accept bills larger than a $20.

From the Federal Reserve LINK

Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?

There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law that says otherwise.


Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," states: "United States coins and currency [including Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve Banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." This statute means that all U.S. money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor.

No, paying a debt is not the same thing as refusing to engage in a transaction to begin with. When you walk into a store and say "Hay, I want to buy a Butterfinger. Here's a 100 dollar bill." They can say no, because they don't HAVE to sell it to you.

But if you pay your taxes in pennies, they have to take it.

For contracted debts, they can only not take pennies if they specifically laid out the terms and conditions of payment. In the court case above, the payment was arranged specifically as part of a legal settlement. Sow hen the court found evidence of malicious intent, the court could declare it bad faith and order something different.

In the case of taking a wad of $2s to the cage to buy chips, no, they don't hav eto take that. Since buying chips doesn't amount to paying a debt.

Courts can make those special exceptions. They weigh the laws, see if there is any law dominating in a special case. Coming with three tons of metal coins difficult to handle and count (costing money) crossed the line of harassment this time. Guess the bar is set very high, and that's good.