THERE ARE NO WORDS THAT JUSTIFY grabbing anyone by the throat
to try and defend this just shows the level we as a society have sunk to.

op had a gut reaction to an attack and there was no provocation indicated in the post.
setting ones chips down and asking for the table to be squared are normal everyday occurrences in a poker room.

It is absolutely delusional to suggest that a lunatic who we know to have grabbed another human's throat would not have been set off by less. I have been told "**** you" without reacting with a throat grab. I have said "**** you" without having my throat grabbed. I have received and said much worse. The vast majority of us do not ever grab throats.

We are not talking about a stable person here. There is no predicting how an unstable animal will react to anything, so telling the victim that he should not have done the thing that happened to set off his assaulter is straight victim blaming.

How NHTPA and his like can read their posts back to themselves and not be crippled by their own embarrassment is beyond me.

This is a good post though.

I'll bet they outlawed dodgeball when you were in school and you have a bunch of participation trophies and ribbons up on your wall. I can handle the "lunatic throat grabbing animals" easier than stomaching your characterization of the people and this (non) fight and how society should react to it. Come out from under your bed and experience the real world every so often.

P.s. Telling someone to FO in a chatroom doesnt count.

This

Why does the nut shot bother you so much?

If someone is beating your ass trying to take your life, (which if you're in a fight nowadays is a strong possibility), or property, why is a crotch rocker off limits or a sissy move?

Just because you hit them doesn't make it gay.

Lunge at any throats lately?

Asking to have the table squared is perfectly standard and not firing a shot.

Meh. Maybe you enjoy rough housing with strangers and risking permanent harm to yourself or others in a bar scuffle, but I'd prefer a society where it's not cool for someone to physically assault me just because he has some sort of anger issues. Not everyone can defend themselves and it would be nice if no one really had to.

I like how immediately after you and Steve accuse me of trolling and wonder how anyone could take me seriously, the next several posts are people who agree with me and take me seriously.

At some point you're going to have to either claim I'm running a bunch of gimmick accounts or realize that my opinion is far more popular than you realize.

To that end, consider this: even if I were an idiot, it's clear that my brand of idiocy is popular. Specifically, the person who sits next to you may very well be a craaaazy psychopath. They may punch you in the face with little or no provocation, and then not even think it's a huge deal because among their craaazy psychopath friends, punching each other isn't a huge deal.

That's even MORE reason to tread lightly and be even MORE accomodating. Or, alternatively, spend even MORE of your time filing police reports with Officer Rolleyes and suing people with Ann Bulance-Chaser, Esq on retainer.

yes, we have gotten soft as a society, but reading your numerous post throughout this thread is embarrassing. I don't understand your need for creating an artificial tough guy image in this thread.

Grabbing another mans throat is serious business. It's worse than punching someone. In Alabama, if someone grabs your throat and won't let go, you have the right to use lethal defense. The villain went after the OP's throat not once, but twice. Personally, I think he should be commended for restraining himself from kicking the guys ass.

At the risk of making it look like callipygian has made another fake account...

Completely agree.

Assuming the facts are as the OP put it, (and I usually lean more towards Dr. House's point of view that everyone lies), I have no idea what reaction he was expecting when you tell someone that is apparently sitting 6 inches away from you F*** you.

This reminds me of Pulp Fiction. He probably didn't expect the stranger to react the way he did...but he had to expect a reaction. You don't tell a person F*** you to their face man....you should've dang well known better.

Well said. If you continue to escalate the situation (F you, you heard me) you are not blameless. Sure, the other guy crossed the illegal line first, but there were several opportunities to avoid it getting to that point.

I learned this one the hard way. I thought the one finger salute was a good way to express mild displeasure, but then I ended up in a life threatening situation. The other guy was more wrong than me, but I contributed to the situation.

Bottom line is, when you say "**** you" to someone you don't know (and don't know how they will react), you risk a violent response. Act accordingly.

Nobody is saying scott free, it's just most likely a crime that won't lead to incarceration.

The United States prison population rate is the highest in the world, I think you are safer in Canada because well it's Canada, not because of our lax approach to putting people away.

Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-3-22 is a "stand your ground statute" but nowhere does it say being grabbed by the throat allows one to use lethal force as you claim. Can you provide a citation or are you just pulling your theories out of you ass?

I don't know if it's your terrible judgement or your bizarre desire to be clowned on relentlessly, but you really couldn't have chosen a less believable persona to push forward than a tough guy who definitely would not keel over and piss himself in response to the slightest threat of confrontation.

When i start using "unstable animal", "victim shaming" and "crippled by their embarrassment" in response to a story about guy that got "spocked" at the poker table, you can call me a pussy.

Part of being a man is letting go of a stupid misunderstanding where tempers flared. They are not worth criminal charges, making false injury claims or fighting dirty. Little boys do this, not men.

Lots of different angles here, but here's the gist of my opinion:

-- OP should reconsider aggressive words unless he is OK with these types of responses.

-- V deserves the permaban and I'm perfectly OK with this being reported to police as well. Even if it's a first-time offense and he gets off with just a plea and 6 months probation, that's the only way he's going to get a record created so that the next time this happens he's punished accordingly. If nobody presses charges then his punishments for each incident are going to be less severe than they should be. Anyone who grabs for a throat at a poker table from a couple of fu** yous over something this stupid has probably done far worse things than this. Get that animal off the street.

-- If V truly had a one-time moment and this isn't indicative of his true behavior, then having this on his record will be relatively meaningless anyway. It's not a felony and it's not going to come back to hurt him unless he does it again.

-- Forget about this "handle it like men" crap. That's just an excuse for people not to be held accountable for their actions. OP's actions were held accountable by getting put in an uncomfortable situation with a person putting their hands around his neck and V's actions will be held accountable by getting permabanned and getting this on record with the law. How both of these parties handle this situation in the future is how they'll "handle it like men." You fu** up, you admit it and make the change. Being a man is not a competition to see who has the most caveman genetics intact. A man today is different than a man 50 years ago.

What, exactly, was the misunderstanding?

The OP asked whether he should press charges. I said that he should because his assailant crossed a bright line: he attacked someone physically. It's that simple. When his assailant does something like that again, there should be a record so that the DA, judge, etc. are able to see that this is a pattern of behavior, not an isolated incident. If it happens to be an isolated incident and the assailant never ends up in front of a judge again, great!

callipygian, I recognize that you're not the only person promoting your "brand of idiocy," as you put it. That doesn't make your recommendation of not reporting physical attacks any less harmful to the public.

Note well that I'm not arguing whether OP should have taken a different approach to his situation from start to finish. I am, and have been, advocating for pressing charges when someone attacks you physically. He absolutely should press charges because society should be on notice regarding people who think it's OK to physically attack other people. And people who have a pattern of that behavior should be removed from society.

Also, callipygian, I'm sorry you took the time to write a serious response (if it really was a serious response) to my re-troll of the goofball who thought playing sports, flipping off someone, or having cold fries is the same as being attacked physically.

That's just ridiculous. So if a person attempts to commit a crime, but fails, they should no longer be punished for it? Or are you really naive enough to believe this guy just likes to grab people's throats without any intention of ever taking it a step further?

If he did this to his teenage son, should he not get in trouble because no visible marks were left?

I like how he talks about treading lightly and being accommodating, while at the same time his posts don’t follow that advice at all.

Not sure I buy that cops, judges, etc. will hate the OP for pressing charges unless they hate him because they are flat out lazy.

A good story? Being attacked like that in public is embarrassing.

And even if we assume the other guy had a serious problem in his life, there are plenty of people with similar issues and they don’t attack people. For him to attack someone and make excuses like that-THAT is being soft.

I mean, you’re arguing with a guy who has spent a dozen posts fervently trying to convince internet strangers that he totally would have stood up to the big bad meanie and whose insecurities make him think that anything short of doubling down on the stupid **** he says is a sign of weakness. But good luck!!