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Originally Posted by Aurora Tom
1. Never make any action to fold or muck when it seems like you have the winner until everyone else has thrown in his cards and the pot is being pushed to you. Mistake by the hero.
2. This is absolutely an angle by the Villian IMO here, allowing for the possibility that he wasn't intending for it to be an angle. It completely brings into play the possibility of the Hero throwing his cards in, and the villian winning based on being the last one to hold cards. Which is exactly what did happen. He enticed the Hero into believing he automatically won the hand, when in fact tossing his cards in would cause him to lose the hand. If that's not an angle I don't know what is.
If there was no intention to angle, there was no angle. Angling is a deliberate action.
In the OP, there is a possibility it was an angle, but also a pretty strong possibility that the 'villain' held onto his cards because 1. He wanted to make sure that his missed draw wasn't somehow still good, and 2. He may have wanted to see the other players hand. if the other player was the last to take aggressive action, not releasing your cards is perfectly fine.
Under the OP's revised scenario, actions of the the 'You're good' guy become irrelevant, and it strictly becomes a matter of room rules regarding the recoverability of cards in the muck.