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For all you old folks, how big of a deal was check-raising back in the day? For all you old folks, how big of a deal was check-raising back in the day?

10-03-2024 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by uberkuber
So you find it more rude if he fools around by check raising than if he fools around by open shoving 150 bb into a 20 bb pot?
You have it backwards.

But it's the motivation I find rude. If you do it because you think it's the best way to win a pot that's one thing. But the clear implication was that the kid didn't care about the money and was getting his jollies by seeing what would happen with his blind shoves.

I know the "correct" answer is to wait and take the free money he's offering but it offends me nonetheless. If that's the way to get your jollies, go get a lap dance.
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10-03-2024 , 07:33 PM
How is it backwards, lol.
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10-03-2024 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by uberkuber
How is it backwards, lol.
He said that check-raising bothers him not at all. No qualification for fooling around either. Maybe you don't know what you wrote.
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10-03-2024 , 11:42 PM
Well, he also said that if someone fooled around by check-raising just for giggles, he considered it rude.
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10-05-2024 , 04:07 AM
Adapting to a player who plays differently can be hard.
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10-05-2024 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Adapting to a player who plays differently can be hard.
Being aggressive is not the issue. Being able to adapt is not the issue. If he wants to do this (1/2 to full shove EVERY hand) at his regular stakes, let him have at it. But this is not aggression and he is not at his regular stakes. the clear context was that he was slumming and, yes, I find that rude.
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10-05-2024 , 09:24 PM
Yes, he could have had a derogatory attitude connected to it, that's rude. Only consolation is to try and take the money offered. Winning itself need to be more important than the nominal value in the "civil" world.
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10-06-2024 , 03:11 PM
If you find rude a specific style of play, maybe you shouldn't play poker.
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10-06-2024 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by richlp
Being aggressive is not the issue. Being able to adapt is not the issue. If he wants to do this (1/2 to full shove EVERY hand) at his regular stakes, let him have at it. But this is not aggression and he is not at his regular stakes. the clear context was that he was slumming and, yes, I find that rude.
How is shoving every hand not aggression? What does he have to do to be labeled aggressive in your book?
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10-06-2024 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by uberkuber
If you find rude a specific style of play, maybe you shouldn't play poker.
And were I actually in that game I would have racked up and left, letting the floor (not the dealer, nothing s/he can do about it) know exactly why..

Question for you ..... What at the table behaviors do you find rude and do you think not playing is the correct response?
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10-06-2024 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by richlp
And were I actually in that game I would have racked up and left, letting the floor (not the dealer, nothing s/he can do about it) know exactly why..

Question for you ..... What at the table behaviors do you find rude and do you think not playing is the correct response?
Wow. Someone wants to literally give away money and some people on here want to leave and discourage them from doing it...
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10-06-2024 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JimL
How is shoving every hand not aggression? What does he have to do to be labeled aggressive in your book?
I'm confused.

What did I say to give you the impression that I think shoving every hand pre-flop is not aggressive?

What do I find aggressive? Three betting non premium hands, very light continuation bets, bluffing. Probably the same things you find aggressive. But I find NONE of those things rude. I applaud all of those actions and wish I had the skill set to know when it is appropriate for me to act that way and how to properly follow up.

So, what did I say to give you the impression that I think aggression equals rudeness?

I explicitly stated "being aggressive is not the issue." What part of that is unclear?

To (try again) to be clear, In my opinion it is the motivation that is rude. I certainly could be wrong about this but from the poster that first mentioned the behavior I got the impression that the player was doing this every hand because he found it amusing. He may find it amusing, I find it rude.
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Yesterday , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by richlp
I'm confused.

What did I say to give you the impression that I think shoving every hand pre-flop is not aggressive?
Dude what?

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Originally Posted by richlp
this is not aggression
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Yesterday , 01:46 PM
With the current state of poker being largely No Limit Holdem check-raising doesn't occur all that often that it should be any kind of issue with anyone as it is well within the rules of game play. Speaking personally, as someone who spent a large portion of my playing career at mid-stakes Limit Holdem check-raising was rampant (often on multiple streets in the same hand) so I'm very comfortable with it!
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Yesterday , 03:48 PM
Started playing live poker and online in the late 90's, early 00's. Had a guy online go ape$@^& over me checkraising him, made all sorts of threats if I ever tried that in person. Live poker, it was always an allowed part of the game, though maybe the occasional oldtimer (old timer back then, I guess I am an old timer now) would talk about how you couldn't do that back in the day. But I think the game changed a lot around the time that the WSOP got started.

I have never seen anyone in live poker get angry over getting check raised.
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