Yeah I think any one who takes the time to post in online poker forum already is showing they have that passion. Not every one does this.

Play as a hobby. 7 years and not even 100k from poker is v clear that you shouldn't waste more time on it. Poker is getting worse each year. If you didn't make good money in 2011-2013 you won't make good money now. Focus on your true passion and you won't need a side income.

I would agree with this... the juicy years of poker are done... it's on a downswing as a whole as a sport/egame/career... It's still alive but if you didn't crush it in the old days you won't now and it's not getting better as previously said.

So now you are putting words in his mouth? Try to read comments before teaching others. I did, so now your turn.

That's exactly what he's saying. If you're too dumb to understand context, perhaps forums aren't right for you. Go back to reading AOL News and stop posting here. You're embarrassing yourself.

I'm going to have to disagree with this. There are a lot of people who weren't even old enough to crush it in the old days who are crushing it now. Furthermore, there are some people (like myself) who played in the old days, but who didn't put in the time to properly learn the game who are doing much better now than in the "old days". Poker is a game with a time continuum, just like other games it evolves over time and players learn to adapt to it. Poker will always be poker, the game itself hasn't changed, the only thing that has changed is the way people play the game. If you can learn to exploit what people consider the "standard" at any given time during the evolution of the way the game is played then you will always have an edge.

Lol you guys are 25 acting like your 55 year old degens. 25 is young 35 is young here's the thing you don't have to choose one thing. You can do multiple things with life actually it's kind of dumb to just stick to one thing and put all your time and energy into it. My friend is a doctor a lawyer a author and a magician. He never stopped going to school he will actually be a official lawyer at the end of this year I think he also has some type of culinary background as well but anyways yea do more then one thing if you like poker don't quit just don't make it your life either be well rounded.


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bump, updates OP?

Anyway, I posted in this thread a year and a half ago, and I'm still thinking about going for it. I haven't played much but I read strat on this forum everyday, because I love poker. I've got a dilemma though, I can try to be normal in the world and be always somewhat miserable because i don't get to play poker... I know this because I've been living the past few years without having a passion. On the other hand, if I do play I'll probably have to sever ties with my family because they hate it to an extreme degree. Like really really hate it. Also, I'll have no social life because poker turns me into a weird dazed antisocial zombie. I'll probably never have any more cool moments that come around in life. And I'll stop talking to girls, which is probably the biggest worry... And I'm not even that good at poker because I make so many dumb plays and not really smart enough in general to excel at it.

Best day of the last year was holed up in a hotel room watching PAD reruns and playing 2 tables of 1c/2c. The thing is though, if I pursue poker I'm basically committing suicide..................

I'd cut down play by 50% to see if you enjoy it more. If you're losing, hey, you'll be losing 50% less.

-" I doubt if it is worth it at least 2 times/days almost every week, this makes those days decrease in overall happiness etc."

"I love the thing I’m studying and I want to make a big career in that field. So I should make everything I can to improve my possibilities there. (poker is maybe taking to much time from this)"

Not enough passion + busy life with poker likely to interfere with negatively playing the odds = quit poker. Gonna drop the cold hard truth on you because its what you need. I've played msnl+ on stars for 12 years now currently playing one of the toughest games in world (500z stars) as regular online game to keep sharp, as a show of credibility of authority on the subject. I've seen it all.

You say later that you sometimes do love poker and that you "will" regret not giving it a shot. Almost all of the regs throughout the years I have played have disappeared. It is a very hard job to sustain long-term and in my opinion requires a fiery passion for improvement as well as more free time than you have.

If you enjoy the game, keep playing some and learning with income you can very comfortably lose, just make sure your expectations are in line with reality, which is that the odds are severely against you to have significant long term success in poker with your other responsibilities. I suggest just playing small stakes for practice when you feel like it, while learning and not letting the results delude you. Aside from that, I highly recommend to start a meditation daily habit, as I have significant reason to believe it is one of if not the most important daily habit to have for long term happiness/fulfillment of every human, and have researched/subjectively experienced this first hand over the past 3-4 years.

If you insist on giving it a legitimate shot despite my advice, I suggest you grind up a bankroll playing live somewhere near you at 1/2-2/5 while studying on sites like runitonce/networking with strat groups. If live isnt available, play low stakes knowing full well its just practice for future and are not expected to crush due to insane rake compared to stake. Continue to learn and improve as often as you can, and play only 1-2 tables at a time fully focused with no distractions. Forget anything you see "GTO" related for now for both live and online and focus only on finding exploits in your opponents game and hyper exploiting them with a combination of notes and hud's.

Some basic low stakes population tendencies :

1. Severely underbluffing all spots, especially the river and especially deep.

2. Overfold preflop (online only)

3. Overfold postflop (if reg) (with fish just bluff the overcard obvious spots, keep it simple)

4. Their getting in preflop ranges are extremely tight, make sure you're positive you're ahead of their range in certain spots. Dont be afraid of making folds that "nobody on 2p2 would make" etc. Follow your intuition over your conscious mind, especially as you develop more experience. Never do things like "called riv jam because I was at the top of my range". People are not going to exploit you, its your job to exploit them because they have infinite leaks.

In conclusion, I would say keep it as a hobby without risking too much money, learn when you get time and are in the mood. Once you get the job (your main goal) and are making good money and maybe start to get extra time, poker will still be there. I suggest you put most of your effort into your career and replace most poker related things with building good habits such as meditation, nutrition, exercise, relationships and family.

Hope everything works out for you either way, good luck.

bump.

Sitting at the library with foreign keyboard, so difficult to write too much. Just want to say I relate to what you are saying OP, it is something that is on my mind consistantly lately, this question that you bring up. I will most likely post more of my views on it soon, in another thread.

Where do you stand now in this? Any poker?

I'm not OP, but at the moment I'm in a really awkward life situation. I took one of those coding bootcamps, finished it despite not enjoying it, and started an internship at this place. I'm still living on my parents' dime at 27 years old who really want me to move the **** out, so i had to do it.

Basically, every second i spend doing job stuff, all i think about is how much i hate my life. i knew the second i started that internship that i was going to do everything i could to get fired asap, and i ended up just quitting with no notice 2 weeks in. but i don't have the skill nor temperament to play poker professionally. i'm completely lost and still living with my parents who are absolutely PISSED, dependent on their insurance. and yet, the only time i'm happy is when i'm doing anything poker related (playing, watching, reading, analyzing). i'm a significant winner at microstakes and NL100 and have a roll for those games, just so i don't look like a complete failure after this post. Quitting poker, not an option. Working, not an option. The writing is on the wall...