Quote from Wikipedia: "(testosterone levels increase) Mental and physical energy" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testost...ogical_effects and from Pub Med: "On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

Those links above seem to suggest a abstinence of masturbation for 7 days increases performance on the 7 day. Opinions?

Perhaps it only enhances certain tasks? Testosterone increases/reduction in masturbation would increase sexual arousal, which is related to non-sexual arousal, so according to Yerkes-Dodson Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerkes-Dodson_law perhaps it will only increase performance in more simple, intuitive tasks, such as socialising/exercise and reduce performance in more difficult tasks such as exams/poker.

I've never really thought about this till now, although if I have something important for the day I force myself not to masturbate the following morning.

I always yank off whenever I'm all in. The only downside is getting thrown out of the casino.

above = hillarious...
shoot and scoop!

Thank you very much. I'm here all week

Too bad it's not the opposite

^ lol

no its only ejaculation which reduces performance... masturbation alone is actually very beneficial...

for me anyway, sexual energy is the most potent... notice how if you go a week without spilling, you get out of bed 10 faster than if you had knocked one out before you went to sleep.

The problem is you need a woman- because you have to empty your balls or they lose power, and also having a woman helps them fill up faster. Just don't give them too much, they are the rake and will drain everything you have if you let them.

Also you reasoning is abit off, as masturbation increases testosterone production, but it is overworking your balls and reducing your vitality and lifespan...

The Tao know their ****. I suggest you look into Tao, its like a poker manuscript.

I couldn't do that

How so?


Tell me more so I actually can be bothered to look into it?

in that case you probably tilt alot and don't know how to show women a very good time.

just is, cba explaining, but look at a graph of testtosterone production relative to point of ejaculation

after about 12 hours it goes up a **** load, then it goes up slowly for about 4 days, and then once peak is reach it flattens out and declines...

It is only a belief but the energy/essence used to replenish your sexual health has a cost. NOtice how one is really hungry after sex, and also cravings kick in like cigarettes, because the will has been weakened...

this is purely speculation but you wanted thoughts...

hrmmmm, I don't think will has anything to do with the amount of desire, but is rather the level to which gives into the said desire

completely wrong

5 Words bitches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0B_UZNtEk4
you aint stopin ****, thread savers please.

Elaborate please

Talked to GP, he said that masturbation doesn't have any effect

http://www.prostate-massage-and-heal...turbation.html

Cliffs:
- Masturbation 1-2 times a week = healthy
- Masturbation every day or few times a day = not healthy

"Over Masturbation and Fatigue -
The "Scientific" Biological Explanation

Frequent masturbation (Over Masturbation) and ejaculation stimulate excessive acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions. This can result in over production of sex hormones and neuro-transmitters (the chemical substances that make your nerves send the messages to your body and brain) such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin.

A large amount of these hormones and neurotransmitters causes the brain and the adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion. This causes the brain and the body functions to become extremely sympathetic. With Over Masturbation, there is actually a big change in the body chemistry.

If this continues for a long period of time, physiological changes occur.

In simple terms, you become dopey and sleepy . Your body and immune system also become weaker. "

Interesting article but seriously, wtf at this: "You can still enjoy sex without ejaculating each time. This saves your body from enormous energy drains."

I've been resisting the urge to masturbate, went from ~ 1.2 times a day to .85, seems to be having good results so far

It also depends how you masturbate. If you do it quick under the shower i guess it has a complete different effect than if you watch porn for hours and completely overstimulate yourself.

That is a load of wank.

You must be a huge nit than, considering you wank every time you're all in

Too lazy to find links, but having researched this a bit in the past my understanding is that 2-3x per week (ejaculation) is optimal for physical health, while 1x per week is optimal for mental performance. And I don't think it's been mentioned in the thread, but prolactin is the chief reason for the laziness induced post-ejaculation afaik. Also if you're not aware, it is possible to learn how to orgasm without ejaculation (and therefore multiple orgasm) so you then get the best of all worlds and can choose to ejaculate at your desired frequency.

I'll add that doing it every day really isn't much of a problem so long as you do it last thing at night since it helps you fall asleep and improves quality of sleep. First thing in the morning though is a disaster wrt your motivation for the rest of the day.

But if you have an orgasm every day your testosterone level is very low all the time. I dont know if this has any big effects on mental energy etc. , but probably it has.

It's true. I don't like to see a flop.

This topic has been discussed quite a bit on mindandmuscle.net. Try searching for '30 day challenge'.

That's strange about there being different optimal frequencies for physical/mental, I figured it would have been the same

That's pretty awesome, although the primary reason why I masturbate is the urge to do so, not because of the pleasure

Wanking at night if anything wakes me up

Couldn't find it, the search was too wide and found way too many unrelated pages. Know of any details to refine the search?

If you search for some of the some of the strings in the referenced page then you'll find that text originates back to an "agony-aunt" type section of some site selling herbal supplements to supposedly "normalize" the said neurotransmitter levels (I can't seem to find it now to link you as the text seems to have been copied so many times to so many sites) and therefore the info presented is sketchy at best.

Juk

The physical aspect comes from my reading of forums devoted to longevity. WRT the mental aspect, the longer the better since lethargy is always induced, but it seems that 7 days is about the point where you need to 'drain' before the mental and physical side effects become unreasonably deleterious.

Ugh, I was linked to those threads from another forum, don't know M&M really. Try here, it's awesome anyway.