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06-10-2024 , 10:58 PM
I think it's fair to say if you want to make a living playing poker, and not grind your face off for 60 hours a week, you need to be playing 2/5 or something similar where you can make $30- $50/ hr.

In the past, I've mostly taken shots at bigger games, but never played them day in and day out.

But if I ever want to get better and make money, I won't get there being fearful.

So I committed this entire month to play bigger. And I am playing awful.

I'm doing things I know are wrong, things I learned a long time ago, and I do it anyway.

I think this is the most frustrating thing about poker for me.

There isn't a single course, book, or coach in the world who can help you execute.

All coaching / studying does it makes you more knowledgeable, but how do you execute in game?

I will just have these "brain farts" where I can't think and I don't know what to do in a very basic spot.

How do you stop that?

I don't think there is a solution.

I want to be the best poker player I can be, but while I've watched everyone around me move up, I'm still stuck in the kiddie game because I just can do the right thing often enough especially in big pots.

Maybe I just need more reps, but at what expense?

I don't even like poker anymore. I've been playing forever, and its either play, do nothing, or start panhandling.

If I actually won and crushed, it might actually be fun again.

Even though I am educated, none of that matters.

I can barely get a $15/hr job, and I pretty sure the guy with the sign on the street corner is doing better than that.

I'm frusterated and fearful of losing more money. Money that could go to better use than to someone who has a job and doesn't need it.

I really have no idea why I am on this earth, and there is nothing anyone can say or do to fix it.

I hope I'm wrong, but I am sick and tired of who I am as I know it.
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06-11-2024 , 06:54 AM
If this post is an accurate representation of your mental state, you are not anywhere near where you need to be mentally to play poker professionally. Sorry if that's harsh but pro poker is a serious endeavor so if you're considering it you need to get comfortable with hard truths. Few thoughts on what you might do to improve the situation:

- You need to seek professional mental health support. Everybody benefits from it, but when you're in a place where you're anonymously posting on a poker forum that you "have no idea who why you're on this earth, and there is nothing anyone can say or do to fix it," and "you're sick an tired of who you are as you know it," that's more than a little bit of a red flag. Talk to someone.

- If you don't like poker, don't play poker. You are going to put as much or more time and effort into playing poker professionally than you would in almost any other career. If you don't love it, it's not the right choice.

- If you don't like who you are, you need to a) love yourself more, there are inherent components of your identity that are independent of poker or anything else you do that are good and should be celebrated, and b) change things. Like it sounds like you're not happy with where you are in poker, so you need to do something different than what you've been doing in poker.

- Be brutally honest about how well you know poker strategy. You say you know the right plays you just make the wrong plays because of implementation errors. In 90%+ cases when someone says I'm good at poker there's just this XYZ mental block that prevents me from executing, they aren't as good at poker as they think they are. True because everybody can always get better at poker, and because you're playing 1/3 and 2/5, if you're decent at poker the opponents in those games should appear to be awful, because they are.

- Really understand the nature of the game. If you're playing professionally, at some point you are going to run worse than you ever imagined possible. Somewhere right now a winning player who has crushed his game for the last 5 years is in the middle of a multi-month downswing questioning whether he's any good or if he can continue. But needs to have the grit to get through that. If you can't fight through the way you feel right now, poker is probably not for you.

- Study more. If you haven't already spent a few hundred hours at least deliberately studying with active learning techniques, there's your real answer on why you're struggling. If you have, study more. Studying makes you better and builds your confidence at little to no cost.

- Develop a consistent decision making framework. A list of questions you ask yourself in every spot to determine the right action. Most people are adverse to this, I guess because it feels clunky and unnatural at first, but particularly if you're having genuine issues implementing things you know, this helps.
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Yesterday , 11:18 AM
GJ, I saw a Psychologist in January who specializes in Peak Performance, and it has been a night and day difference for me. Moving up shouldn't feel different, and if it does, that's the area of your mental game that needs work. A good Psychologist will help you to identify the thoughts you're having in those key moments where you make the wrong decisions that you know are wrong. Then, they'll get you to think of the earliest examples in your childhood where these things happened. Once you unlock that, you should be able to play in the tougher games without a lack of confidence.

I've always had issues with tilt (which isn't some lack of skill thing like Mason spouts), and when I realized that my unhealthy views about competition in general stemmed from my father, I was able to get to the bottom of things. It's helped me to not only tilt like 95% less severely, but I still play men's league sports and it's helped me to not be a poor sport and complain to the refs as well.


I paid for 6 sessions at like $250 a pop, and it has paid for itself many times over already this year.
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