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Old 05-15-2018, 05:26 AM   #1
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Poker messing up my life

Hi guys,

I have a bit of a problem. Fortunately I'm lucky enough to have not lost money at the game, up around $1000 since I started playing several years ago.

It's messing up the rest of my life. I can't stop. I'm meant to be doing my PhD work at the moment and all I want to do is sit in my underpants and grind. Then I feel guilty about how lazy I am etc and so the cycle continues.
I'm not making nearly enough money to consider trying to be a professional, and I'm wasting such a huge amount of time playing for pennies. (I have similar problems with online chess where theres no financial reward - only rating points to be gained and lost).

I want to be able to enjoy the game on a social level - last time I quit for the same reason, I limited myself to "Only live and with friends", but yet here I find myself after yet another online binge. It seems to crop up every time I have a big piece of writing to do.

Any advice on managing your life/time roll properly?

(Not a degenerate gambler - have always stuck to my level, never incurred any debt or anything, don't do any other gambling (sports, casino) etc. Made continual withdrawals though to use the cash, limiting ability to move up in stakes. Maybe I'm just a pussy lol )
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:23 PM   #2
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Re: Poker messing up my life

Well, I fell into a similar rut during my PhD (not playing poker....but simply surfing, playing video games, and doing basically anything but getting my thesis together)
At some point I just noticed that it was immediate gratification vs. the looming mountain of work (and possible threat of failure). I looked at myself and saw someone totally failure averse because I knew I could 'beat the games' I was playing (or argue circles around the people I was arguing with on the net)

So there's - in my view - a couple ways to go about it
1) Slow withdrawal. If you're the kind of person who can make a plan and stick to it (I can't) then make such a plan. X hours computer turned off and work on thesis, then Y hours playing
2) Cut the cord. Uninstall any and all gaming software. If you have the cash go on a retreat where you have no internet connection.
3) Get a deadline from your PhD adviser (e.g. deadlines for delivering each chapter). Deadlines work wonders to sharpen the mind (and ruin your health....but that's just temporary until you hand in the thesis ...after that you should alread plan ahaed for taking 3 months off or something ). Don't work from home.

(I did 2 and 3 ..except the 'retreat' thing)

Here's another thing I've seen someone do: Bet your parents that you won't touch a game until you're finished by date X. Some amount that really hurts. Made for a nice gift when he actually did finish on time.

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Old 05-16-2018, 05:02 PM   #3
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Re: Poker messing up my life

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Well, I fell into a similar rut during my PhD (not playing poker....but simply surfing, playing video games, and doing basically anything but getting my thesis together)
At some point I just noticed that it was immediate gratification vs. the looming mountain of work (and possible threat of failure). I looked at myself and saw someone totally failure averse because I knew I could 'beat the games' I was playing (or argue circles around the people I was arguing with on the net)

So there's - in my view - a couple ways to go about it
1) Slow withdrawal. If you're the kind of person who can make a plan and stick to it (I can't) then make such a plan. X hours computer turned off and work on thesis, then Y hours playing
2) Cut the cord. Uninstall any and all gaming software. If you have the cash go on a retreat where you have no internet connection.
3) Get a deadline from your PhD adviser (e.g. deadlines for delivering each chapter). Deadlines work wonders to sharpen the mind (and ruin your health....but that's just temporary until you hand in the thesis ...after that you should alread plan ahaed for taking 3 months off or something ). Don't work from home.

(I did 2 and 3 ..except the 'retreat' thing)

Here's another thing I've seen someone do: Bet your parents that you won't touch a game until you're finished by date X. Some amount that really hurts. Made for a nice gift when he actually did finish on time.
This is good advice.

GL OP. Pull focus. You'll be fine.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:40 PM   #4
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Re: Poker messing up my life

Give your computer to a friend or family member and have them check your emails and w/e else you need to know on a daily basis. If you need a computer for your PhD use one at the library.

You're the one who signed up for the heavy load, now get your act together and get it done.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:18 AM   #5
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Give your computer to a friend or family member and have them check your emails and w/e else you need to know on a daily basis. If you need a computer for your PhD use one at the library.

You're the one who signed up for the heavy load, now get your act together and get it done.
This too.
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Old 05-19-2018, 03:40 PM   #6
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Any advice on managing your life/time roll properly?

(Not a degenerate gambler - have always stuck to my level, never incurred any debt or anything, don't do any other gambling (sports, casino) etc. Made continual withdrawals though to use the cash, limiting ability to move up in stakes. Maybe I'm just a pussy lol )
If it affects work and relationships, you're still a degenerate gambler. If you are a winner with good bankroll management, that just means you are a functional degenerate gambler.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:18 AM   #7
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Re: Poker messing up my life

Yeah, I set a limit on the days I play. It was hard at first but Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Sundays were never really profitable for me and most of the time i'm too busy with work to play Mondays or Thursdays anyway.
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