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Old 11-29-2008, 03:53 AM   #26
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adderral and marijuana=good
alcohol=v v bad
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:10 AM   #27
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adderral and marijuana=good
alcohol=v v bad

Largely agree with that from personal experience, though many people have told me that a slight buzz (2-3 beers) has been good for their game in certain situations when they're stressing/not playing well, what have you. Personally I'm just a proponent of the cannabis and probably caffeine, and even addy if not used consistently (it's just not great for you, frankly, even relative to caffeine and weed), assuming you don't have another need for it.

While I will never touch coke, I'd be interested to read a TR on how someone was impacted while putting in a session under their otherwise normal playing conditions after doing a couple lines.
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:37 PM   #28
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Do you have any experience with LSD? Do you have any basis for your opinion or is it just "crazy" because it is?

We have already had posters who HAVE played on acid, and they say it may have helped them, which is plausible, but not the sort of advice I'd take to the bank just yet. Maybe you have a basis for an opposing viewpoint?
I have a ton of experience with acid and the notion that it would help me play better poker sounds crazy to me. I could be wrong, though. I would be willing to give it a shot just for kicks. It would have to be shrooms, though. I haven't run across acid in ages.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:01 PM   #29
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People who have to use drugs to play cards are just masking their excuses for losses or it makes it easier to lose money, and if you use drugs in order to play better then you start becomming more dependent on the drug and the next thing you will end up like Stu Ungar, but if you wana get high at the table by all means = )
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:08 PM   #30
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People who have to use drugs to play cards are just masking their excuses for losses or it makes it easier to lose money, and if you use drugs in order to play better then you start becomming more dependent on the drug and the next thing you will end up like Stu Ungar, but if you wana get high at the table by all means = )
You are a moran

I am a pretty decent winner at the stakes I play and have paid for my university tuition with my winnings this month alone (not a brag since many are doing way better than me..). And I think every session I`ve played, I have been stoned.

Smoke weed everyday imo
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:16 PM   #31
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Oh please. Do your research before you make absurd and blatantly incorrect implications like this.

While I'm sure some drugs would be very ill advised across the board to mix with profitable poker playing, the ones that don't fall under that category (caffeine, various amphetamines such as addy, marijuana, some say small amounts of alcohol...) are mainly product, and person dependent. This goes for doing any drug with any person. The context/environment is also pretty relevant.

Just do your research, talk to smart people, and make an informed, thoughtful decision if you decide to partake in any such activity, both with the actual activity, and the frequency with which you indulge in it. It's different for everyone and it's not to be taken lightly; too much of anything is probably a bad thing (any amount for some people may be bad as well, so seriously, do your research and get to know yourself if you don't).
This sounds smart but ure just saying that dope effects different people differently.
I know this and know there are differences in effects with different people but i also KNOW that it has adverse neuropsychological effects and am pretty sure (based on all the people that i know who smoke) that it generally has a relaxing or sedative quality that long term causes seemingly 'lazy' dopey behaviours.

I dont need an empirical study to tell me it makes my m8s me and everyone I see smoke it generally lazier and dopy-r.
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:40 PM   #32
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This sounds smart but ure just saying that dope effects different people differently.
I know this and know there are differences in effects with different people but i also KNOW that it has adverse neuropsychological effects and am pretty sure (based on all the people that i know who smoke) that it generally has a relaxing or sedative quality that long term causes seemingly 'lazy' dopey behaviours.

I dont need an empirical study to tell me it makes my m8s me and everyone I see smoke it generally lazier and dopy-r.

Yet you make false blanket statements and generally misleading connotations in implying a ton of things about cannabis, all negatively across the board when again, they simply aren't true. So what if a side effect is that you may feel lazy? "It depends" is a crucial answer re: drugs and most things in life. Speaking against that after making the statements/implications that you did is just friggin' ridiculous.


cliffnotes:

you: you're all wrong, weed can't be good with poker
me: yes it can, drugs definitely depend on the context and person.
you: I know that and that all sounds good, but I don't need you to tell me that weed makes me and my group of friends lazy and stupid!

..............

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Old 11-30-2008, 10:34 PM   #33
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try playing donkaments all day sunday w/o weed, its unpossible
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:51 AM   #34
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People who have to use drugs to play cards are just masking their excuses for losses or it makes it easier to lose money, and if you use drugs in order to play better then you start becomming more dependent on the drug and the next thing you will end up like Stu Ungar, but if you wana get high at the table by all means = )
People who use drugs... does that include caffeine?
Clearly some drugs can be abused but if you'd ever had psychedelics (e.g. psilocybin mushrooms), u would know it is IMPOSSIBLE to become addicted.

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My favorite poker drink is green tea for theanine
Read the wikipedia entry. I interested. Is this substance in all green tea or a specific kind? There are so many brands!


BTW, thanks all posters for their responses. Was very interesting
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:22 AM   #35
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Energy drinks at one time or another are practically a requirement for a serious pro. I'd focus on better nutrition and more efficient sleep personally.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:48 PM   #36
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People who use drugs... does that include caffeine?
Clearly some drugs can be abused but if you'd ever had psychedelics (e.g. psilocybin mushrooms), u would know it is IMPOSSIBLE to become addicted.



Read the wikipedia entry. I interested. Is this substance in all green tea or a specific kind? There are so many brands!


BTW, thanks all posters for their responses. Was very interesting
I think you know I was refering to illegal drugs, lol You had to argue my statement by using "caffine is a Drug" dude, the nit picking on this site makes me realize no one has a clue about poker and people come on here to either bash your posts, point out misspelled words or anything else they can try to find wrong, you people need to get a LIFE!
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:24 PM   #37
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I think you know I was refering to illegal drugs, lol You had to argue my statement by using "caffine is a Drug" dude, the nit picking on this site makes me realize no one has a clue about poker and people come on here to either bash your posts, point out misspelled words or anything else they can try to find wrong, you people need to get a LIFE!
i agree that there is a lot of nitpicking on this forum but in this case i use the "caffeine is a drug" argument to illustrate the ignorance of making general statements about "drugs" as u did in your previous post. clearly there's a huge difference between cannabis and crack. Both illegal drugs. While alcohol and tobacco are considered by many scientific studies on the subject to be more harmful than many illegal drugs. I'm not trying to change anyone's stance on drugs, i was just interested in the possibilities of their use as it relates to playing poker. Clearly u don't have the experience to add anything useful to this discussion and are too narrow minded on the subject to take it seriously in the first place.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:43 PM   #38
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Ive played Drunk, Stoned, and other yes, but I feel the most controlled being sober, although it is Fun to play messed up if you do not care about the outcome, sorry did not mean to come at you like I did.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:18 PM   #39
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more infos on adderall pls
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:35 AM   #40
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Here is something to think about...testosterone.

Obviously, men dominate in poker. The question becomes: Is it because there are more men playing the game proportionally or is it because of some physiological difference?

Am I promoting shooting up Vitamin S? Hell no. There are ways to naturally increase your testosterone production. In fact, if your sitting hunched over at a poker table, eating like crap, being awake at odd intervals, and not exercising, your 'cahones' aren't producing as much test as you'd like.

So, hit the weights, do some sprints, work up a sweat, eat your almonds, avocados, figs, eggs, fish, banannas, figs, blueberries, etc. Type in testosterone boosting foods on Google.

More testosterone equals more confidence...that's always a good thing in poker, right? Also, there have been scientific studies that point to testosterones positive effect on the math/logic side of the brain...some say that this is why mostly all of the greatest inventors, scientists, math whizzes have been males...ever heard of the 2D 4D ratio (finger length ratios in regards to prenatal testosterone secretion correlates to better math scores).
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:01 AM   #41
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:17 PM   #42
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illari sahamies' pupils were huge on "the game" poker show. suspicious considering all the strong lighting.
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:26 PM   #43
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I have no experience with LSD in poker, but I have seen someone almost die from taking one hit and they were never the same mentally. That is my basis for saying it is "crazy".

IMHO....don't even think about it!!!!! Illegal and dangerous.
LOL to your noobness... I love people who have no idea what they're talkin about and go off of heresay

I actually had this though last night during a little trip of my own. Acid. I think it would be a great tool in taking information in, but in terms of storing it and using it, im not sure you could execute it properlly.

I think the biggest issue would be boredom. There is alot going on at the table and alot to take in, but nothing really to "entertain" you persay. Id find myself looking for other things to do, and getting myself lost in my world of chips, or something stupid.

I dont think it would be a good experience in the end. I think it would be fun as hell to get some buddies together and place a cash game trippin.
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Old 12-06-2008, 04:40 PM   #44
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Just a warning: People DO react differently to psychedelics (shrooms, acid). Some people are more naturally open-minded, and they have no problem dealing with the effects of psychedelics.

Others who have a more rigid view of reality are never the same after even one trip, good or especially bad.

You never really know what it's like unless you do it yourself, 2nd hand stories don't come close to doing justice to the real experience of tripping. Some people enjoy it, some people regret it forever.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:17 AM   #45
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Others who have a more rigid view of reality are never the same after even one trip, good or especially bad.
not neccesarily a bad thing. culture is not your friend.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:33 AM   #46
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I tried playing on mushrooms. It was a total disaster though cause I had no ****** clue what was going on.
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Old 05-21-2017, 03:03 PM   #47
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People who have to use drugs to play cards are just masking their excuses for losses or it makes it easier to lose money, and if you use drugs in order to play better then you start becomming more dependent on the drug and the next thing you will end up like Stu Ungar, but if you wana get high at the table by all means = )
OP said "enhancing" not "enabling" you idiot. Stuey was addicted to coke but he didnt have to use it to be phenomenol. and......We play a game called "poker". We do not play "cards" . 2 plus 2 is not for people like you who are looking for advice on how to play old maid or go fish. What excuse do you have for how bad of a player you are? I can tell from your inability to concentrate long enough to actually read the post and correctly interpret it before you post an ignorant response that I would LOVE to have you at my table no matter what substance I may chose to use.
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Old 05-21-2017, 03:23 PM   #48
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I think you know I was refering to illegal drugs, lol You had to argue my statement by using "caffine is a Drug" dude, the nit picking on this site makes me realize no one has a clue about poker and people come on here to either bash your posts, point out misspelled words or anything else they can try to find wrong, you people need to get a LIFE!
What does "illegal" have to do with anything? Caffeine is indeed a drug! So is alcohol. So based on your argument I would be better off if i sat down playing after chasing down 20 mg of "legal" oxycontin with a few "legal" beers?Then you try to bail out by painting yourself as the victim of "nitpicking" when people like me who get upset by your judgemental holier than thou attitude respond to your insulting post. The OP asked for advice. He didn't ask for a response from the lifestyle police.
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Old 08-04-2017, 11:30 AM   #49
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Legal or illegal has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at matter.

Coffee is awesome for poker, but you gotta mod urself.
Same goes for weed.

Coffee gets you sharp, motivated, alert, energized and enthusiastic.

Weed helps me with tilt SOOOOOOOOOOO much.

Helps me with both kinds of tilt euphoria winning tilt
and anger/depression loosing tilt

Cool thread BTW

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Old 08-10-2017, 10:33 AM   #50
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If I smoke pot right before playing, I sometimes get a bit too anxious / "out of it" where it is probably hurting my play. If I wait a bit first I do fine, maybe helps with boredom but I don't really see how it would help with decision-making, neutral best.

Here is a pretty good summary of drugs that either improve or are claimed to improve cognitive functions:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nootropic

Just don't expect any of this to be a magic boost to your game, it's still you doing the analysis and making decisions. No substitute for studying, practice, and good old-fashioned rungood.
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