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Please help with entitlement (tilt) Please help with entitlement (tilt)

11-25-2018 , 11:16 AM
I am currently beating live 2/2 and 2/4 games for quite a decent hourly, but every other night or even more often, the stupid game just destroys my psyche/brain.

The main point is that I see all the flaws in other peoples game. All the time. All the limping, all the dumb over-calling. All the spots where they miss value. All the spots where they make stupid calls/bluffs. I have lots of live-tells that turn out correct watching the game. I feel, I am so far ahead of the competition that I should win tons of money. But there is nothing I can do about in until I get a playable hand. So on average I might see 50 flaws until I am finally able to exploit one for a win.

I guess, I would be better off just ignoring the game (watching youtube) when I'm not in a hand, but one the other hand, I think I need to watch what people are doing to keep my edge.

I just love that people are so bad, especially when looking at my yearly results. But on the other hand on a day-to-day basis, I just hate it. I see stupid players in a stupid limp-called 5-way pot where some guy flops a straight vs. two pair and gets all the money. Just pure envy.

What can I possibly do about this?
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11-25-2018 , 06:26 PM
i think this is a problem that many serious players have. When you dedicate yourself to poker and understand how the game is meant to be played, watching a full-ring casino table play bingo can be disturbing lol

over a large sample these players are going to lose a lot of money, let them have fun because you are there to win the war, not the battle

let the volume do its work: big pots will be played in front of you by rec's, but the fact that you are not involved in them is one of the reasons you are a winning player

and after enough volume is played that money will find its way into your bank account

Last edited by +EVillain; 11-25-2018 at 06:32 PM.
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11-26-2018 , 02:01 AM
Just choose your game and hope "it is the best game you ever watched".

That's what you want to play in when you actually make a hand.

Don't push it, it will come eventually, as Max Holloway says "it is what it is."
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11-28-2018 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TomLaney444
I think this video will help your mindset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc1hCpbkRz4
Seems off topic but interesting. You will hear back from me after I read his books...
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11-28-2018 , 06:55 PM
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I see stupid players in a stupid limp-called 5-way pot where some guy flops a straight vs. two pair and gets all the money. Just pure envy.

What can I possibly do about this?
Smile.

Think of it this way: A lot of money just goot parked in the stack of a stupid player (which is the second best thing that can happen to those chips).
Defiinition of a stupid player: Someone from whom it's easy to get their stack.
Maybe he even tilted one of the real good players/threats at the table? Wohoo! Bonus!

What basically happened was a concentration of a lot of money at the table in one spot....so you can get it all in one go and don't have to grind it out of everyone separately. What's not to like? (Particularly since "Mister Stupid" will think his play was genius and will continue playing stupidly)

I just love it when bingo-players simply move the chips around in nice, big chunks. With the action these types of players seek they'll never see it coming when you have them totally crushed.

Last edited by antialias; 11-28-2018 at 07:01 PM.
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12-01-2018 , 09:51 PM
I do think it's a bit psychologically torturous to sit there and detail all the mistakes live 1/2 - 2/5 players make. You know them all: they play too many hands, they call too many raises, they don't three bet nearly enough, they peel flops too wide, they overplay top pairs and overpairs on flops to "see where they're at", they chase draws at bad prices, they miss river value. Your best bet IMO is to get the details you need to exploit people preflop (they're fairly homogenous postflop), and then do something else while paying tangential attention. Is the game on? Watch it. Maybe you can talk basketball with a friendly tablemate. Have friends? Text them. Talk about stuff, send funny gifs, whatever. You want to watch a documentary on the Hittites? Do it. Pretend that you're just relaxing until it's time for business. I know when I play PLO, I can be card dead for hours and it's important to constantly remind myself to fold mediocre hands that don't play well multiway. Just remember that it doesn't take a lot of mental fortitude to know how to get value from A9 with AK on AT5. So just distract yourself from the game.


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12-05-2018 , 01:23 PM
Something to consider: maybe you could find more opportunities to play non-GTO holdings based off your reads.

Also something to consider: what if when you went to play live poker to enjoy the human interaction also. You're not going to like everyone you play with but there's usually someone you can have a conversation or a laugh with.
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12-08-2018 , 07:55 AM
Everytime I start thinking this way it leads me to make a horrible decision where I make a stupid bluff attempt because "Im such a better player than this person". It usually ends up awful.

Its incredible how difficult it is on the human brain to follow a simple, bullet-proof strategy because of the creeping affects of tilt. It should be so ridiculously easy not to have tilt, yet it affects everyone.

Luckily, it's one of the reasons why our opponents suck so bad. Everytime they fold 96 pre and would have flopped a straight it puts them on life tilt and leads them to play horribly.

Plus 3 hours of negative variance feels like an eternity on the brain. People adjust their strategy based on all the short-term results of the past hour.
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12-12-2018 , 03:30 AM
You have a specialty in life, and if you choose to evaluate people as to how smart or stupid they are within that realm, you are going to come out smelling like a rose. But if you go golfing, or bowling, or in a million other things like, say, neurosurgery, what if some professional in that realm was sitting there thinking how stupid everything you do, say and think is? Now you're the idiot. It's ego, which is tamed by appreciating one's humble position in the scheme of things.

Last edited by FellaGaga-52; 12-12-2018 at 03:39 AM.
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