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Old 02-22-2021, 01:57 AM   #1
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Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

that person might be me.

i normally dont eat breakfast.
i usually grab lunch at the casino before heading to the poker room to play 1/3 NL.

but today, me and few friends were going to a steak restaurant for an early dinner so i skipped lunch.

an hr into the game, a new player shows up with max buy-in ($500) which is around the same as my stack.
i have never seen him before (young white guy) and he's playing like a typical LAG.
he hasnt said anything obnoxious, controversial or out of line.
and i'm 2 to his left. i should be happy having position on him most of the time.

but a couple of hrs later, for some reason, i got tired of him constantly raising and stealing pots.

i was bb with 25s.
he raised to $12, sb called.
i decided to play sheriff and take a stand with a 3bet to $60.
they both called.

i missed the rainbow flop and cbet $90.
villain called, sb folded.

turn was a blank and i check.
villain bet like $150 and i check raise shove with air.
he tanked but eventually folded.

does not eating anything make a person easier to go on tilt?
if not, then can someone explain WTF i was doing playing like a lunatic with a 166bb stack?!? (It's like I lost control.)

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Old 02-22-2021, 02:23 AM   #2
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

Yes.

Metabolic State Alters Economic Decision Making under Risk in Humans
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:53 AM   #3
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

I started "fasting" this year, eating only between 20:00/24:00 then 20 hours without any food, only water and tea.

I don't feel any diferent about it on poker, I feel a lot more energy and focus in general.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:49 AM   #4
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

There are few evolutionary reasons why our body can't manage with fewer meals or restricted eating. In other words, you can likely train your body to become accustomed to dealing with food only arriving at certain times.

However, if your body is expecting food to arrive at a certain time and it doesn't come, then it's likely you will experience some "withdrawal symptoms". Blood sugar will drop, and as the brain relies on glucose to operate (approx. 20% of our daily calories are consumed by the brain), then it will likely lead to a decline in cognitive performance.
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Old 02-22-2021, 07:31 PM   #5
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

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There are few evolutionary reasons why our body can't manage with fewer meals or restricted eating. In other words, you can likely train your body to become accustomed to dealing with food only arriving at certain times.

However, if your body is expecting food to arrive at a certain time and it doesn't come, then it's likely you will experience some "withdrawal symptoms". Blood sugar will drop, and as the brain relies on glucose to operate (approx. 20% of our daily calories are consumed by the brain), then it will likely lead to a decline in cognitive performance.
Hi Elrazor:

Whilr I'm sure that what you're saying is accurate, there is also much evidence today that intermitten fasting is good for you. As an example, I now try to do all my eating in an eight hour window and fast the other 16 hours.

What are your thoughts on this? especially once you get use to doing it.

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Old 02-23-2021, 02:02 AM   #6
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

It's fine. Our hunter gather ancestors may have gone several days and maybe weeks without feeding, especially in harsh winter environments. Therefore, we can adapt fairly quickly to new eating patterns with little or no side effects. Restricted eating is a good way for some people to manage their calorie intake.

The only caveat to this is there is no evidence that fasting changes weight loss for any reason other than reducing calories. However, behaviourally, it's a routine that many people find easy to stick to, and it obviously, reduces late night snacking is pretty terrible for weight gain.

OPs issue is slightly different in that he's altering is eating routine straight before doing a demanding cognitive task, giving the body little/no time to adapt.
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Old 02-23-2021, 03:04 AM   #7
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

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It's fine. Our hunter gather ancestors may have gone several days and maybe weeks without feeding, especially in harsh winter environments. Therefore, we can adapt fairly quickly to new eating patterns with little or no side effects. Restricted eating is a good way for some people to manage their calorie intake.

The only caveat to this is there is no evidence that fasting changes weight loss for any reason other than reducing calories. However, behaviourally, it's a routine that many people find easy to stick to, and it obviously, reduces late night snacking is pretty terrible for weight gain.

OPs issue is slightly different in that he's altering is eating routine straight before doing a demanding cognitive task, giving the body little/no time to adapt.
Hi Elrazor:

This is an article I just read where intermittent fasting is favorable mentioned:

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazi...ells-autophagy

Any thoughts?

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Old 02-23-2021, 05:00 AM   #8
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

No immediate thoughts, but there are a few interesting references in that article that I'll add to my reading list, particularly this one in Nature.

Intermittent metabolic switching, neuroplasticity and brain health

As an overall comment on the methodology underpinning nutrition, it's notoriously difficult to compile high-quality evidence to support causal mechanisms. For example, you can isolate an individual in the lab for a day or 2, or ask them to come back every day for a week to study the effects of a highly controlled diet. However, for longer term research, it's nearly always conducted in natural settings and as such is littered with confounding variables.

However, one constant in any health related research is physical activity, so it's no surprise to see it pop up here. I would guess that for autophagy, the main causal process is PA. Intermittent fasting may have a significant effect, but it's likely very small in comparison.
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Old 05-02-2021, 06:31 PM   #9
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

of course its acausig tilt, balancing in every aspect is the best approach
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:49 PM   #10
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Re: Not eating all day makes a person easier to tilt?

Varies greatly. Blood sugar is a tricky thing. As is sensitivity to mini-fasting.
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