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Old 05-13-2018, 08:09 PM   #1
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I can't win on the weekend

I don't know what this is, it's bizarre. Exactly what the title says, I can't win when I play on the weekend, even though this is clearly when the softest games are happening. What is this?
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:59 PM   #2
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I don't know what this is, it's bizarre. Exactly what the title says, I can't win when I play on the weekend, even though this is clearly when the softest games are happening. What is this?
BBV is that way.

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Old 05-15-2018, 03:37 PM   #3
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BBV is that way.

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What is BBV? Can you explain?
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:35 PM   #4
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What is BBV? Can you explain?
You made a thread better suited for the Bad Beat & Variance forum (BBV), but put in Psychology for some reason.

You've asked a rather meaningless question. It will pretty much get flamed/trolled wherever you post it. So my advice is save yourself some time/hassle. Short answer is, stop being superstitious. Poker is a mathematical game of skill. Get good or stop evoking gremlins to explain your bad results.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:20 AM   #5
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

This is a good post because in years past I ran badly in the wilder games and I "didn't want to gamble." It took me a while to realize that poker is gambling (seriously) and that has helped me battle the degens but definitely more degens on Friday that's for certain.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:50 AM   #6
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You made a thread better suited for the Bad Beat & Variance forum (BBV), but put in Psychology for some reason.

You've asked a rather meaningless question. It will pretty much get flamed/trolled wherever you post it. So my advice is save yourself some time/hassle. Short answer is, stop being superstitious. Poker is a mathematical game of skill. Get good or stop evoking gremlins to explain your bad results.
You can be a dick to me all you want, but I put it in psychology because I think the reason behind this could have to do with a psychological barrier. Maybe I feel bad taking money from really bad players, like the ones you typically see on the weekend.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:01 AM   #7
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You can be a dick to me all you want, but I put it in psychology because I think the reason behind this could have to do with a psychological barrier. Maybe I feel bad taking money from really bad players, like the ones you typically see on the weekend.
I'm being honest w/ you. You probably think you're a solid/winning player, but aren't, and are scapegoating something nebulous. JMO.

Unless Chicagodude is understanding your situation better than I am, I don't think the question makes a whole lot of sense, & I'm not sure what you want to hear.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:49 AM   #8
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You do know that even good players can go through 100's of hours of break even or losing poker, right? I don't think you understand how variance over small/large samples actually works. Maybe you think you do, but I seriously doubt you have enough hours logged for this to be a meaningful question in the first place. Hence, I'm being a bit dismissive.

Why do you think you're good enough to beat these games in the first place? How many hours/hands have you actually logged? Blaming "weekends" before truthfully evaluating your own skill/volume overall is pointless.
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:18 AM   #9
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

You're bullying me in a very obvious way. I'm not an idiot. This is the last post I'm putting here.
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:41 AM   #10
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You're bullying me in a very obvious way. I'm not an idiot. This is the last post I'm putting here.
I never said you were an idiot. You're probably smarter than me in a hundred ways. I simply think you're far more ignorant about poker than you believe you are. I'm the bad guy for pointing that out? Please.

My suggestion? Stop being defensive, and you might learn something valuable here. I'm serious when I ask you how many hours you have logged on weekends vs. weekdays, etc. Your sample size matters.

PS. I'm not dwelling on the pithy/snarky comment that you immediately deleted prior to this last one, so let's move on, shall we?

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Old 05-21-2018, 07:06 AM   #11
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

He's not being a dick or bullying you.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:32 PM   #12
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He's not being a dick or bullying you.
I think a much more interesting question for this thread would be as to why OP thinks this? Definitely a deeper psychological issue then "why can't I win on the weekends?" imo.
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Old 05-23-2018, 04:35 PM   #13
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I think a much more interesting question for this thread would be as to why OP thinks this? Definitely a deeper psychological issue then "why can't I win on the weekends?" imo.
Agreed. That's exactly what I'm getting at. But OP doesn't like my tone, so to hell with learning.
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Old 05-25-2018, 02:23 PM   #14
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You can be a dick to me all you want, but I put it in psychology because I think the reason behind this could have to do with a psychological barrier. Maybe I feel bad taking money from really bad players, like the ones you typically see on the weekend.
If you feel bad you can feel better giving it back to me at 25-50NL Zone on Bovada
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:48 AM   #15
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

I played with a 'reg' last night. This OMC was so miserable on a Friday night. It MADE ME want to get up from the table. He turned the 5-6 players that were listening to his 'problems with others following him around the poker room because he made them lose a high hand' or some BS. He went on and on, bringing it up MULTIPLE times to multiple dealers. My point of the story is. This guy was playing SO TIGHT it made me want to vomit. Maybe, you're this guy? It was a game that everyone was LIMPING and seeing flops and this guy was just an oblivious OMC... He's been playing in this room for as long as I can remember (10+ years)...

I'm ranting, but you reminded me of him OP.
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Old 05-27-2018, 04:04 PM   #16
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I think everyone ITT is bullying OP in a very obvious way. He's not an idiot. This is the last post I'm putting here.
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Old 05-30-2018, 10:16 AM   #17
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

I know a few people who shy away from weekend games and prefer to play only on weekdays and while the sun is up.

It's a combination of a 1/2 buy in being their "budget" and not part of a bank roll, and the fact that the player base at that time is usually a limp fest and you can "play" more poker on short/scared money.

They're not good or winning players but they think they are. They also don't understand gamblers at all. They're the same type of people who want to "move up to where they respect my raises."

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Old 06-22-2018, 05:19 AM   #18
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

I've experienced this issue too and it took me a while to figure out how to fix it.
Thing is, you can play a strategy perfectly, and it'll likely work great against predictable opponents (mainly bad regs).
Weekend fish are often unpredictable, and they all play differently.
The key is to pick up on their individual plays and exploit them before they get stacked.

For instance, a player that just aggros every hand, 3bet with questionable hands.
You'd think you should fold because they are representing strong hands, but in reality they usually have garbage.
You won't be able to semibluff them, wait for a hand that's better than the range they usually show up with and eat them.

Yes it can cost you money but you will have to take risks. If you can't handle that, play a stake lower during the weekends.
Just make sure to pick on up on what they're doing wrong before you take the risks of course.

That's just my experience anyway. I play micros so don't take my advice too seriously. :P
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:15 PM   #19
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

You're going to get more bad beats on weekends due to fish getting it in worse so much more. You should also build up huge stacks way more easily and have a greater roi in general if you have played a significant amount of poker that's enough to make statistical assumptions on. Weekends are fantastic as is very late at night/early mornings when people are drunk or tilting or hopefully both! If you aren't making money on weekends you need to take a good look at your game and make adjustments. Having such a defensive attitude isn't going to help you improve your game and is pretty much counter-productive in all aspects of life. Gl.
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:45 PM   #20
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

Phil Me Up, I won't argue whether or not you were being a dick or a bully, but what is unquestionable is that there were better ways you could have responded.

For example, you could have simply said, "It is next to impossible that your problems actually have anything to do with the weekend. Can you tell us how many hours of live poker you've played, what studying you've done, what coaching you've had, and perhaps a couple hands you played on the weekend that you think you might have played differently during the week?"
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:25 AM   #21
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Phil Me Up, I won't argue whether or not you were being a dick or a bully, but what is unquestionable is that there were better ways you could have responded.

For example, you could have simply said, "It is next to impossible that your problems actually have anything to do with the weekend. Can you tell us how many hours of live poker you've played, what studying you've done, what coaching you've had, and perhaps a couple hands you played on the weekend that you think you might have played differently during the week?"
Not saying there was no snark on my end, but come on. OP is presumably an adult who shouldn't be so ridiculously defensive. And TBF, I asked some of those exact questions, and never insulted OPs intelligence once. I won't make apologies for not being mothering enough in a poker forum, especially when I provided quality info to OP if they cared enough to read it.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:51 AM   #22
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

cards are shuffled differently on the weekend opposed to during the week.
thats probably you're problem.
just constantly call marked cards and deck swaps on the reg.
and worst case scenario, tip before the hand. Better your chances

Actually, my friend does that, tip before the hand occasionally xD haha. And its hilarious when wakes up with a monster or the flopped nuts. We always get a good laugh out of it

Pokers poker. none of us are pros or we wouldnt be on here asking the masses why this or why that? If you got any kind of grasp on the game, regardless of outcome or variance, you'll know you made the best decision at the time and still lose. Shrug it off and be grinding it out the very next night .,,
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Old 06-30-2018, 03:42 AM   #23
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

This could be a psychological thing. I think "feeling bad taking money from bad players" is a rationalization for losing. The way to make money in poker is to do exactly that. What is more likely, is the strategy for the game changes when the people on the weekend come. I remember a long time ago moving from 6NL to 10NL that people were actually worse, but my results were worse as well. Turns out my strategy needed to change. I needed to call people's bull**** bluffs down more often and bluff less, because the player pool changed.

You need to adapt to the new field. If you are against a lot of aggro people trap them with sets and don't get caught up trying to outplay them with marginal stuff too often.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:54 PM   #24
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

At one time, I needed to adjust to bluffing opponents during weekends. If I had a good hand, it was in no way a fold like it tended to be during the week.
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Old 08-04-2018, 08:22 PM   #25
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Re: I can't win on the weekend

OP you are not being bullied. It was just pointed out that your post just sounds like the griping you hear by bad players, and without any more info to go on, that is how it will be treated.

For starters, why do YOU think it's happening? Are you playing live or online? Is your routine any different on the weekends? Do you have a g/f or friends who ask you to go out on weekends and you are thinking about that? Are you playing live or online?

Without any kind of self-analysis or details no one here will be able to help you.
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