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Old 10-29-2017, 04:54 PM   #26
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

Take a break and get some space from the game before even considering playing again. Start spending more time with friends/ family and seek out new 9to5 opportunities. The casino will always be tempting but there's much more to life.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:40 AM   #27
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

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Would love to know how these hands went down. It's a classic newbie PLO mistake to play crappy unconnected middle pairs fishing for a set.

Bet the reg was happy!
Your most certainly right. He probably did benefit from fish playing the hands u suggested.

I just hate that I'm playing probably the exact same range as this guy, and
I'm not set over setting someone every day. Probably would take 2 weeks of full time play to top set over middle set someone 1 time. I just don't understand how this guy did it 3 straight sessions within 10 minutes of me sitting down. The contrast is what makes it so tough. I'm struggling to hit a flop, and he's smashing boards like crazy.

That difference is making poker unbeatable for me right now. I feel like because I know the math, I have to abide by the laws of mathematics. But
other regs probably don't know the math, so they believe they can hit like mother ****ers and they do.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:04 PM   #28
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

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use the last of your 5k and get a top notch coach and study the game hard. Use the other 2k to play 100 buy-in live tourneys and get a part-time job. If this fails get a real full-time job and play poker as a hobby until you get better and always, always study. No study no honey
I love this one!
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:39 PM   #29
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

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Your most certainly right. He probably did benefit from fish playing the hands u suggested.



I just hate that I'm playing probably the exact same range as this guy, and

I'm not set over setting someone every day. Probably would take 2 weeks of full time play to top set over middle set someone 1 time. I just don't understand how this guy did it 3 straight sessions within 10 minutes of me sitting down. The contrast is what makes it so tough. I'm struggling to hit a flop, and he's smashing boards like crazy.



That difference is making poker unbeatable for me right now. I feel like because I know the math, I have to abide by the laws of mathematics. But

other regs probably don't know the math, so they believe they can hit like mother ****ers and they do.


You are experiencing fairness bias. You are not thinking clearly. Furthermore, when things turn randomly around you will think it is because you have started to play better.

I don’t know the secret solution about how to process these thoughts and return to rational thought. However, the ability to do so is crucial to being a winning player.

Watching the Aria high stakes cash game program from 2015 last night, Phil Ivey flopped bottom set with 22 and Antonio Esfandiari flopped a nut straight with 45o. Ivey lost a huge hand. After the hand, Ivey muttered “that’s fair” three times and gave a glaring look in the direction of the dealer. However, nothing at all (that I can observe) changed about Ivey’s game. The other players pointed this out to Ivey, and he smiled and ate a snack.

The pros have the ability to experience emotion, process it, and recover like an Olympic sprinter after a 100M dash.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:23 PM   #30
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

At times I think people are so degenerate that they should be separated from their money as fast as possible for the benefit of mankind. Threads like this make me think,

"It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money.", Amarillo Slim
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Old 11-15-2017, 01:49 AM   #31
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

Follow this thread for example:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2.../index114.html

Money just does not belong in this guys hands, because he's somewhere between irresponsible and mentally insane, and it's better that Doug Polk won it imo. It's better that the money is in the hands of people who have some kind of vision of what to do with it, even if it's only something like buying an overly expensive motorized ornament, or a helicopter. At least then the money isn't entirely squandered.
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Old 11-16-2017, 09:04 PM   #32
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

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You are experiencing fairness bias. You are not thinking clearly. Furthermore, when things turn randomly around you will think it is because you have started to play better.

I don’t know the secret solution about how to process these thoughts and return to rational thought. However, the ability to do so is crucial to being a winning player.
No, when things turn around I won't think that way. I'm playing good right now. I'm hanging tough. I'm still working on my game trying to improve as its all I can do. But I ran so far under EV today its crazy. I'm actually doing good at PLO, because I can actually make hands with 4 cards. But in NL holdem I have nothing so frequently, which to me is fine because your suppose to, but its the flip side of the coin that is crazy. These guys get so many hands, or more so the regs. I would much prefer the wish to be lucky.
Does anyone think maybe stars has there own shills playing and its rigged.
Like I see the odd fish get lucky of course, but its these reg pros that I see everyday that just run like gods. They can play super overaggressive in retarded fashion all because the deck smacks them in the face. Its almost embarassing. This ****er Al magelin is the luckiest ***** alive. I was studying hands on him just to try & learn his game a bit maybe help play vs him. But I couldn't even study the hand histories, it made me sick look at this complete nonsense of winning the lottery over like 3 k hands. Its just
so crazy, its like literally 10 times luckier than me. More pat hands than I do pairs. He raises every button but gets the nuts dealt to him there so frequently. Just sick of playing a game where this can happen. He literally gets money handed to him, I have to earn every ****ing cent
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:09 PM   #33
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Re: The end is near, losing my mind. How do I move on?

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You're not a poker player you're a gambler. Hang it up.
My first thoughts as well. I love poker but I can count with my fingers how many times I've put money up on gambling on things other then poker.
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:11 PM   #34
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At times I think people are so degenerate that they should be separated from their money as fast as possible for the benefit of mankind. Threads like this make me think,

"It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money.", Amarillo Slim
Didn't that dude **** a 13 year old? Maybe leave his quotes out..... Being a predator in a capitalistic sense is nothing to look up to unless you're ***** made like TRump or any other slave to the ego. But hey this era is filled with such slaves so keep on keeping on I guess lol.
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Old 11-17-2017, 07:14 PM   #35
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No, when things turn around I won't think that way. I'm playing good right now. I'm hanging tough. I'm still working on my game trying to improve as its all I can do. But I ran so far under EV today its crazy. I'm actually doing good at PLO, because I can actually make hands with 4 cards. But in NL holdem I have nothing so frequently, which to me is fine because your suppose to, but its the flip side of the coin that is crazy. These guys get so many hands, or more so the regs. I would much prefer the wish to be lucky.

Does anyone think maybe stars has there own shills playing and its rigged.

Like I see the odd fish get lucky of course, but its these reg pros that I see everyday that just run like gods. They can play super overaggressive in retarded fashion all because the deck smacks them in the face. Its almost embarassing. This ****er Al magelin is the luckiest ***** alive. I was studying hands on him just to try & learn his game a bit maybe help play vs him. But I couldn't even study the hand histories, it made me sick look at this complete nonsense of winning the lottery over like 3 k hands. Its just

so crazy, its like literally 10 times luckier than me. More pat hands than I do pairs. He raises every button but gets the nuts dealt to him there so frequently. Just sick of playing a game where this can happen. He literally gets money handed to him, I have to earn every ****ing cent


Well, this is a psychology subforum, so I will take you for being honest and not trolling.

3k hands is nothing. Not even a variance sneeze. If you try to analyze the players that do well against you for such small stretches, you will always find good runs of cards.

If you like PLO then stick to that. But you should know that some of the best players online have experienced months of bad cards and losing money during those stretches, which are over 100k hands.

Rather than imagine the most popular and secure poker site in the world is somehow rigged against you, I recommend you entertain these two more likely scenarios:

1. (More likely) You are not as good as you think you are YET, even though you are learning and trying to get better. There is more going on at the table that you do not understand.

2. (Less likely) You would be crushing the opposition if you were not experiencing a downswing of luck, which can happen to anyone, and eventually happens to everyone.

If you only study the hands where you lose even though your cards were better, you will only feed your delusions.

Study the hands you win just as much, as well as the hands you folded and assumed folding was correct, and most importantly study the hands that you placed a large bet but in fact held the worst hand.

Nothing more I can say to be helpful.

Good luck,

-Rob
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