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Do you enjoy losing sessions? Do you enjoy losing sessions?

03-03-2021 , 10:55 AM
I'm playing poker next to my full time job. Of course the money from poker is welcome as well, but I notice that I don't enjoy even a bit of my losing sessions. I started to question why I'm even playing poker as it should be fun - it's a hobby - but unfortunately losing sessions aren't that scarce in poker. Are you guys enjoying your losing sessions?
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03-03-2021 , 12:22 PM
I think no one is enjoying in losing sesions. When it happens, you must be proud of your game if you gave the best in spite of result.
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03-04-2021 , 02:53 AM
In an competitive endeavour, losing is part of the game. No one enjoys losing, but you have to learn to accept there will be good days and bad days.
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03-04-2021 , 05:30 AM
It's not just the money but also that when things go right for you it feels better. You hit your flush on the river, you get dealt AA v KK you flop a set in a 3bet pot etc
Of course that is more enjoyable than when you get outdrawn or outkickered , miss every board, get caught when you bluff constantly etc
It feels like an entirely different game sometimes depending on how you are running
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03-05-2021 , 07:40 AM
There are times, sessions, where the chip fights are so interesting and fun that I enjoy them anyway. But those are rare and also I enjoy them and hate losing at the same time.
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03-08-2021 , 07:15 AM
Depends on why I lost. If I was playing well and making good decisions but lost due to bad luck I'm usually still happy. Especially in live play. I have noticed since I recently started playing online again that if I have a particularly unlucky session where I'm repeatedly getting sucked out on that it bothers me more. I think it's because the hands come so much faster online that I don't have the time in between two regain my composure like I do in live play. I'm working on recognizing and fixing that leak.

If the losing session is because I played horribly then I'm pretty happy with myself and don't enjoy it at all.
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03-08-2021 , 10:03 PM
It's interesting playing online backgammon, where you can win with a lucky roll but you won't get points if the AI rates your opponent to have played more skillfully. Changes the vibe -- much less of a fist pump when the dice bail you out and also less of a downer when opponent is the one who gets lucky.
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03-09-2021 , 07:31 PM
I don't enjoy them either, no matter what rationalizations and mental strategies I use. Honestly the zero sum nature of poker just becomes brutal after months/years. It's just not very fulfilling, although IMO anyone who battles in the streets should take pride in that bcz it's no joke to fight for your livelihood and confront variance day after day.

I've come to terms with the fact that I love poker, but not enough to make it my sole profession. I do think it's a great high risk/return investment vehicle that can provide a nice trickle of income that's also fun to make.
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03-12-2021 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by merlin44
I think no one is enjoying in losing sesions. When it happens, you must be proud of your game if you gave the best in spite of result.
When the technique, decisions overall go good, it is a great feeling, especially when moving up, and having got used to the variance, it is also great as it carries one in spite of the dangers, and one has got used to accept the worst case scenarios also, and have backup plans if they happen, and as so, one just plays, and especially when moving up, playing better than ever, is way greater, and even when having the losing sessions, the bigger ones included, one gets skill all the time, that's more important, and about the variance, little one can do, so one can't worry about it too much, it being inevitable. I feel warmer inside, and good, when I see I played well, and even if I didn't at spots, I might have learned there and got something stronger in my learning, so it is more or less inevitable.

If the all-in EV is good, I am happy too, and small lose possibly, even when losing many stacks. A while ago, I lost 13 stacks possibly straight and though I got a bit dizzy, I was happy to be able to train, get hands in, play well (and I had won half of that lose before the drop), and I do better than at the last level and will be able to move up again soon, as I have improved significantly during the last couple of months. The variance is no match compared to these most important factors.

This is all achievable, and it hasn't been the case most of the way, but has been so the last year pretty much for me as I have finally become good enough both technically and practically, so I am happy of the progress, watching variance and hoping I don't go bust because of it, while I am pushing up level after level and wondering when I get shot down (so far so good while dropping and facing the inevitable bust or/and too tough competition for the rake), wondering if I am not good enough at the next level and need to start working for more technique and exploitative factors than I already know - that has lifted me up nicely during the last year.

The variance, initially feels bad, but when one looks into the session even during it already and finds out the all-in EV is more reasonable, and one has played well or/and learned (that's of high value), and maybe one just hasn't got the cards, the variance factor becomes secondary, but one needs to be pretty good already, I suppose, though it could in theory carry at all levels.

The variance is just a joke, really, as there is nothing much one can do about it, and it doesn't rate to be the one deciding the result in the long run, and in the short run, yes, one can and will bust more or less, that's bad of course, but there isn't too much one can do about it. As I am still in the game, happy to my progress and hasn't been shot down yet, the variance isn't problematic at all, it's just going up and down and has been signifying nothing at the end, so far.
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03-14-2021 , 03:32 AM
90% of the time I do not enjoy a losing session. If I feel I played to the best of my ability and/or it was a long day, sometimes I feel alright. Always better to win though
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03-14-2021 , 03:57 AM
I had a thought that helped the pain of losing a few buy-ins (and having a shamefully small stop-loss). What if there was a high stakes player who earns $1-million annually. On the first day of the year he loses $100k. On the second day of the year he wins $100k. This repeats for the first 355 days. Then on the last stretch of the year he wins $100k ten days in a row. One million bux earned in absolute guttural fashion compared to what I experience playing micro stakes.

What I learned is that HS players must have a mindset to survive the above agony. To only care about the end of year results is diametric to how I along with most other players feel about the normal ups and downs. They have an edge, and apply it with confidence. Waiting out the long run is enjoyable.
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