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Originally Posted by VBAces
Why does it seem extremely likely that other players (in the micros) are doing all kinds of cheating? I'm guessing that the only evidence you have of that is that you can't win.
If the only other thing that keeps you from winning is the distraction of the possibility, then it means you are playing differently because you are afraid of the cheat. That is easy to solve. Don't change your game to adjust to cheaters - play the way you would if you didn't think there were cheaters. Because obviously your changes haven't worked, or you wouldn't be posting about it.
As for world class players having a hard time getting past the micros because of all the cheating - I'd love to see one example of such a player. Maybe our definitions of world class are different, but to me all world class players can beat the micros.
I didn't say it is because of cheating that world class players have a hard time advancing from micros but, it could be a factor? Obviously rake is a factor.
Maybe I'm a bum? What exactly is bum-hunting?
I appreciate some of these comments and thoughts and hope others do too.
I don't have evidence of being cheated. The strange plays I've seen repeatedly that only make sense if the opps could see cards or know the cards dealt and/or board cards. Maybe a text list in a file of all the cards at the table? You could normally expect to have strange plays go against you sometimes and for you sometimes. But what if 95% of the strange plays you see go against you? Even stupid crap like when your AA walks literally 8 out of 10 times for a week at a time and one of the 2 times you get action its HU vs. T7 off and you get coolered. I don't care about AA that much but when you see that over and over, what would you think? These are tables where there is plenty of action but then AA, KK gets dealt and it just folds around a huge majority of the time, for days at a time. I know it happens but not 80% of the time for consecutive days at a time on action tables.
In online plo cash games there seems to be crews of 2+ players that just sit and wait for me to build up 200BB then the guy that has position on me waits and waits playing passively until that gross cooler hits. It makes me wonder if they wait for the time i have 1 out and their buddy folded that card. This has happened repeatedly. And its hard enough to get up to 200BB to begin with.
MTT teams, SNG teams. They could theoretically win a majority of any entire MTT prize pool, or an entire SNG prize pool.
I think the micros online are a comedy of cheating training lately. The higher the stakes the less detectable it would be as they learn. And I know there isn't much in it afa money to cheat at micros for money. But it could definitely be a training ground for learning and advancing in cheating; taking food off of people's tables. Micros could even be worthwhile for people in poorer countries? I hope this isn't the case. I'd be THRILLED if it was truth that online poker cheating doesn't happen!