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Old 07-20-2017, 07:23 AM   #26
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Re: Degenerate Gamblers!

I can only hope you've banned yourself from online gambling, and any other gambling outlet that is out there. Playing chess is very cheap. Nobody went broke playing chess. You learn how to use your resources efficiently, strategize, and such. I'm thoroughly convinced kids should learn the basics of chess at a very young age. It'd sure keep them from making blunders like this.
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Old 07-20-2017, 12:43 PM   #27
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I had no knowledge of the word blunder.

It completely simplifies in one word what has happened, more than once, I've been making huge blunders!
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:03 PM   #28
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I am a degenerate gambler and I have often wondered if I am subconsciously punishing myself because deep down I hate myself. It seems like it fits on many levels. When I have money it is almost a foreign, uncomfortable feeling. I hate being broke and feel much better when I have money, but it seems as though I subconsciously am uncomfortable when I am doing well or something along those lines. I dont pretend to understand it but I do know that I have some serious issues that likely will never be worked out. Its just how it is.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:12 PM   #29
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Thelover, you need to first follow leavesofliberty advice and then asap contact gamblers anonymous and seek help brother! There is nothing I can say or do that will help you. You have a medical disorder and you need profesional help. Please, heed our advice.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:40 PM   #30
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Thelover, take leavesofliberty advice and please listen to me as well. If all you're saying is true, no one but a professional can help you. You have developed , through no fault of your own, a medical condition.
You must seek professional help asap. Call gamblers anonymous and or any one of those organizations. It's your only way back to recovery. Good luck.
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Old 07-25-2017, 06:37 PM   #31
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I just lost the 1500 I had in my name at the casinos. I won yesterday but lost everything I had again today.
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Old 07-26-2017, 06:57 AM   #32
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You know, I regret talking about turning stress into eustress, very bad advice. I think people have more untapped ability than they have. People who don't win after six months should just find the discipline to ban themselves for life, or cope with their habit.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:58 PM   #33
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I am one of the biggest degenerates alive.
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:47 AM   #34
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Well find the courage to ban yourself when that horrible card comes. Just be like **** it. Video games are perhaps the most addictive substitute, especially MMOs.
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Old 07-30-2017, 01:25 AM   #35
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I've come to the opinion that most gamblers lose because they're simply ignorant.
This is completely untrue. Most losing degen gamblers lose because they lack emotional control. They allow themsleves to become emotionally involved and hence chase losses, etc. They become addicted to the 'thrill of winning' and the despair of losing the two go hand in hand. This is based in chemical reactions in the brain. They feed off the adrenalin, and the endorphins that are released.

For most they are seeking an escape from present reality, if they know this consciously or not. In much the same way a hardcore drug addict seeks escape from reality.
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Old 07-30-2017, 03:01 AM   #36
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This is completely untrue. Most losing degen gamblers lose because they lack emotional control. They allow themsleves to become emotionally involved and hence chase losses, etc. They become addicted to the 'thrill of winning' and the despair of losing the two go hand in hand. This is based in chemical reactions in the brain. They feed off the adrenalin, and the endorphins that are released.

For most they are seeking an escape from present reality, if they know this consciously or not. In much the same way a hardcore drug addict seeks escape from reality.
One time recently, just yesterday in fact, I played with a total degen from years ago. I noticed him sobbing in the bathroom presumably over losses in a mid stakes game I was playing with. He worked at the cage. And I told one of his coworkers that you have to do something, because he was dead money and was in way over his head. He was an addict. I also think he's kinda stupid. Played with him yesterday, still at it, still an idiot, still has the disease, and it's like ten years later.

A fool and his money are soon departed.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:13 PM   #37
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This is completely untrue. Most losing degen gamblers lose because they lack emotional control. They allow themsleves to become emotionally involved and hence chase losses, etc. They become addicted to the 'thrill of winning' and the despair of losing the two go hand in hand. This is based in chemical reactions in the brain. They feed off the adrenalin, and the endorphins that are released.

For most they are seeking an escape from present reality, if they know this consciously or not. In much the same way a hardcore drug addict seeks escape from reality.
This seems to hit the nail right on the head. I can relate.

I am arguably one of the worst degenerates alive. I can tell you this is pretty spot on.

Its incredibly hard for me to not chase losses.
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Old 08-01-2017, 06:33 PM   #38
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If you look up the word degenerate in the dictionary it should show a picture of me in a frenzy at the casino trying to figure out how to either get ahead or get even.
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:32 PM   #39
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[QUOTE=Motorola;52626563]This is completely untrue.
Completely untrue? That's a uber strong premise.
When i said "most of" I guess I could of phrased that sentence better my self and instead wrote "a lot" instead.
Any way, I agree with the legitimacy of the perspective you offer.
When I started this thread, my intention was to get people to voice there opinions on weather they agree or not with the standard simplistic theory that addicted, losing gamblers lose on purpose out of some self hate.
I never imagined it would turn out the way it did but if we can help any one who needs help that would be pretty well worth it.
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:42 PM   #40
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Its incredibly hard for me to not chase losses.

Degenerate, you seem to be making all these self derogatory remarks without really seeming to care to change your behavior. Are you so use to it?
Have you tried to change? Have you given up?
I wish you would give us some clue as to how you really feel about your situation.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:21 AM   #41
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Deep down I know I will never change. I live to degenerate.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:22 AM   #42
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I am an unbelievably massive degenerate. I could tell you stories you wouldnt even believe. I have lost all my money at least 150 times in my life. The next time I get some money Im going right back to the casino for some more self torture. Its insane madness. It makes no sense, its like we are living in a video game reality and I am being controlled by an advanced race of entities.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:28 AM   #43
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In a desperate attempt to gamble on something, anthing, while in elemtary school, I tried to take 25 cents from a classmate by flipping a book and calling the right side it would land on. We didnt have any coins so we flipped a book in class while the teacher was giving a lesson about geography.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:29 AM   #44
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I will buy in for 2 grand at the tables in the casinos. Within 20 minutes Ill be down 1k. Its a virtual guarantee I will chase it with every last penny I can get my hands on.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:34 AM   #45
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Re: Degenerate Gamblers!

I had 180 dollars in my account a couple days ago. I deposited 176 into an online sportsbook/casino. Lost it playing blackjack in about 10 minites. Was ahead 80 dollars at one point but kept going. COuld not stop.

I have 4 dollars left in my account but only because I cant figure out a way to wager it.

If anyone wants a vig free wager for 4 dollars let me know. I need to double up and get to 20 so I can deposit it somewhere and gamble it up. Im jonesing bad.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:34 AM   #46
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If theres anyone on this planet who is a bigger degenerate than I am I would love to meet him.
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:56 AM   #47
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I need to be stimulated 24/7 otherwise that moment in time is a complete and utter failure and void.
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:57 AM   #48
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Im next level clinical degenerate style folks. Think of the biggest degenerate youve ever met, multiply them by 300 trillion, then elevate your consciousness to the 40th power and you might start to approach my level of degneracy. The only reason Im not gambling on something right now is because I am completely tapped out everywhere. God I cant wait to get my hands on a bankroll so I can start gambling again.

Something I have noticed that may be of value here. I have no idea why but on nights that I lose everything and go to sleep I wake up incredibly well rested and feel like I got great sleep. This is coming from someone who frequently wrestles insomnia throughout his life.
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:03 AM   #49
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The feeling I get when I have money and am winning at the casino is almost as good as sex. The euphoria is indescribable. I also really like looking around at all the girls who work there and fantasizing about them. Im an attractive guy and I live this delusional reality where I think they are intrigued by me and want me to **** them. In reality they probably find me a repulsive loser. Or maybe not. Who really knows.

Im trying to be honest and give input here that people could perhaps find as useful insight. Im an absolutely textbook case degenerate on scales that you wouldnt even begin to understand. If I had any money right now Id throw it on a tennis match because thats all we can bet on at the moment. I dont even like tennis.
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:07 AM   #50
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Its pretty sad that I will never be able to live a happy normal life. The second I get my hands on some money I will donate it right to the casino. Sure Ive won some here and there but you know how that works. Go home then back to the casino again. And in the end nobody really wins. They have too much money. They can play forever until you finally go down.
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