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01-15-2024 , 11:03 AM
OK I'm not here with serious mental issues (that I know of) but I can't help but feel poker negatively impacted my mental wellbeing. I'd be interested if this subject is a common issue and what people may have done to lessen the impact.
A little about me..... I played online professionally for a couple years around 2005-2008. I was never the best player but made profit 48 months straight and was earning a decent living. I tracked stats, made graphs, tried to work on my game. But when my first child arrived, I found my risk tolerance plummeted and my ROI decreased. That with the fact we were coming out of the golden age and people just played better. As I watched my monthly profits decrease steadily towards break even, I made the decision to go back to working full time and side-lined poker as more of a passtime.
When playing and studying the game full time, I was hyper aware of ROI and optimizing profit in every single situation.

Unfortunately, this behaviour has followed me from the tables, and into general life. How can this be improved? How can we complete this quicker? How can I attain 100% life ROI.

It does mean I do things well, but at what cost. My brain is always active, I have trouble sleeping, I can be a pain in the arse perfectionist. I'm aware of this and do my best not to carry it over to relationships but often it does appear. I do try and tackle it with sensitivity, and, if say my missus is doing something that could be improved (lol at even writing this ffs) I will not tell her but offer a better way...... It's the same thing right..... but I do try and be considerate.

What made me post here? Today I took the peely thing off a fresh milk bottle, poured milk into a mug to heat for coffee, put the milk seal in the bin, then turned on the microwave to heat the milk...........I then beat myself up a little because if I had turned the microwave on first, then put the milk seal in the bin, I would have save around 6 seconds on the whole process. I wasn't working optimally!!
I know..... **** crazy right? WTF? haha. I mean, I can laugh about how ridiculous it is but it just gives a snapshot of how my mind works.

I don't remember being like this before poker. I was uber laid back. But the chase for an extra 0.1% ROI made me question and re-evaluate everything and I can't seem to shake that mentality.

Would be interested if there are any more whacko's on here with the same life mindset and if anyone has been able to calm the inner voice without cramming meds?
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01-15-2024 , 02:28 PM
That sounds a bit like OCD. I suggest you see a therapist.
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01-17-2024 , 09:11 AM
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What made me post here? Today I took the peely thing off a fresh milk bottle, poured milk into a mug to heat for coffee, put the milk seal in the bin, then turned on the microwave to heat the milk...........I then beat myself up a little because if I had turned the microwave on first, then put the milk seal in the bin, I would have save around 6 seconds on the whole process. I wasn't working optimally!!
I know..... **** crazy right? WTF? haha. I mean, I can laugh about how ridiculous it is but it just gives a snapshot of how my mind works.
That's actually a damn good idea.

I wouldn't use a microwave to heat milk for coffee though because your suppose to wait 5-10 mins before you eat anything from a microwave after its cooked for optimal health.

I allready turn on the jug before I put the milk or coffee in the cup. It would be GTO for me to read a book while the jug boils then when its just about to boil put my coffee in the cup with milk and then put in the hot water.

Its GTO do apply mindfullness while drinking coffee. simply focus solely on drinking coffee for sound mind.

Also it might be GTO for you to stop drinking coffee and drink decaf because you dont sleep.
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01-18-2024 , 02:28 AM
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I wouldn't use a microwave to heat milk for coffee though because your suppose to wait 5-10 mins before you eat anything from a microwave after its cooked for optimal health.
Nonsense.
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01-19-2024 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cottlad
OK I'm not here with serious mental issues (that I know of) but I can't help but feel poker negatively impacted my mental wellbeing. I'd be interested if this subject is a common issue and what people may have done to lessen the impact.
A little about me..... I played online professionally for a couple years around 2005-2008. I was never the best player but made profit 48 months straight and was earning a decent living. I tracked stats, made graphs, tried to work on my game. But when my first child arrived, I found my risk tolerance plummeted and my ROI decreased. That with the fact we were coming out of the golden age and people just played better. As I watched my monthly profits decrease steadily towards break even, I made the decision to go back to working full time and side-lined poker as more of a passtime.
When playing and studying the game full time, I was hyper aware of ROI and optimizing profit in every single situation.

Unfortunately, this behaviour has followed me from the tables, and into general life. How can this be improved? How can we complete this quicker? How can I attain 100% life ROI.

It does mean I do things well, but at what cost. My brain is always active, I have trouble sleeping, I can be a pain in the arse perfectionist. I'm aware of this and do my best not to carry it over to relationships but often it does appear. I do try and tackle it with sensitivity, and, if say my missus is doing something that could be improved (lol at even writing this ffs) I will not tell her but offer a better way...... It's the same thing right..... but I do try and be considerate.

What made me post here? Today I took the peely thing off a fresh milk bottle, poured milk into a mug to heat for coffee, put the milk seal in the bin, then turned on the microwave to heat the milk...........I then beat myself up a little because if I had turned the microwave on first, then put the milk seal in the bin, I would have save around 6 seconds on the whole process. I wasn't working optimally!!
I know..... **** crazy right? WTF? haha. I mean, I can laugh about how ridiculous it is but it just gives a snapshot of how my mind works.

I don't remember being like this before poker. I was uber laid back. But the chase for an extra 0.1% ROI made me question and re-evaluate everything and I can't seem to shake that mentality.

Would be interested if there are any more whacko's on here with the same life mindset and if anyone has been able to calm the inner voice without cramming meds?

Start with mediation bro
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01-21-2024 , 01:41 PM
OP,

Maybe have a look at Andrew Huberman on youtube.
Some of his videos might help you with some of your problems.

GL
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01-22-2024 , 08:07 AM
You're not broken, you're an economist.

Some people think I'm lazy, but I prefer to say I'm efficient.
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02-14-2024 , 02:50 PM
You use it as a ego booster. That is the problem with a lot of poker players their ego is what destroys them and they have miserable lives even if they are winning. It is very simple. Have low expectations and you will enjoy life. If you expect to maximize your value in everything sooner or later a crash is coming and all that ev will be gone. Then depression and suicidal tendencies will start. Think if you had a woman who expected you to be amazing all the time. The relationship wont last. She would constantly complain and you would be miserable. On my first date with my woman I said where do you want to eat. And she said she wanted chicken nuggets from mcdonalds. She could of optimized the situation and gone to an expensive place. But it would of been the only date we ever went on. My lady is with me now for many years happily cause she has low expectations. Low expectations is the the most gto way so you always are happy with no stress.
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04-17-2024 , 02:19 AM
Sounds like you brain is challenging your basic habits. Congrats.
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