With all of the complaints about lag and disconnects, why would you offer hyper sngs? Shouldn't it be a priority to fix your software first?

Global re-started 3x during the final stages of a sng session. LOL

I've had no issues with them

I don't claim to be a mind reader, but I might speculate that maybe, just maybe, Global wants to offer hypers because some of their customers might enjoy playing them. Just a random guess.

Warning, the following is a rant!

Hyper Turbos are known for their variance, but over the past week the variance has been insane for me. I've been tracking the results of preflop all-ins after it seemed I was running bad, turns out the numbers don't lie! Here are my results over the past 5 days in hyper-turbos.

Race when I'm ahead (i.e. 88 v AK): 23 hands, lost 13. 43% win rate
Race when trailing (i.e. AK v 88): 29 hands, lost 21 31% win rate
Hands where ahead significantly (i.e. 88 v 77): 11 hands, lost 5 55% win rate
Hands where trailing significantly (i.e. 77 v 88): 12 hands, lost 6 50% win rate

These are small sample sizes, but come on, can I get some freaking run good please! On a positive note, when I invest and should lose I tend to do somewhat decent.

I've also tracked hands such as A6os v KJos (60-40 type situations) but the variation in preflop percentages vary to much to accurately portray it in the above examples. I'm losing more than I should in those circumstances as well for what it's worth!

Global, if you read this, I blame my special winners eagle avatar for my run bad!

Rant over

Analyzing how well or badly you're running over short samples in hyperturbo SnGs is the first step towards the insane asylum. Trust me, this benefits you in no way!

Anyway, hypers are fun, although at the 20s and up the player pool seems a little too fragmented to run hypers, turbos AND non-turbos, at least during non-peak hours.

If you'll allow me to rant:

People, if you want more SnGs to run, don't wait for the game to fill up, just register! All day and night I'll see a certain stake have zero players for half an hour; and then me and a couple other "regs" sit and the game fills in 5 minutes! And it's not like they're bumhunting us, lol, they just seem to not want to wait to play ... although they're waiting anyway, so ...

For some bizarre reason I will never understand, fish (and others) just refuse to register for SnGs until a few others have, as though these were cash games and you have to play shorthanded until others come. So many more games would run if everybody just simply registered when they wanted to play ...

I think its due to the uncertainty of how long it will take to fill. Impulsive fish want to play NOW not in 5-15 minutes from now.

As an impulsive fish, I can vouch for the validity of this observation.

I had to start analyzing the hands, either I was running cold (as I confirmed), or I was playing bad (may be a little of that too). Sometimes you just have to take notes, re-evaluate your game, and learn from your mistakes.

+1

MORE RAKE

MORE RAKE ONLY PAID BY PLAYERS WHO ENJOY PLAYING HYPERS.

Quicker games = quicker fees paid to global.

It's simple.

No player with real skill would risk any money in these games. Better players fare much better in longer games.

Don't get me wrong, I don't play them. But I can't imagine there is no edge at all to a skilled player. Haven't done the math, but it just seems unlikely its only a coin flip of who wins.

there's still an edge sure, its just a VERY small one over a very large sample. It's not easy to generate a large sample with the way the software is setup, no huds, no rewards etc. I'd be willing to bet that the hypers have less that a 2% edge over a sample of 10k games for even the most skilled players.

the new "turbo" structure has people in push fold 10 mins in, level 3.

If im having this hard of a time I have to assume the lesser skilled and rec players are just getting crushed and I don't see the stt lobby and gametypes being sustainable long term for any poker economy even this facebook marketing filled player pool.

There is a strategy to these, probably why my bankroll has more than doubled since they started offering them. If you can push through the variance you can win.

See above for how a bad streak can hurt you. Bankroll management is even more important in hypers than any other format

You're absolutely right, the edge is there if the right strategy is utilized. You're also right that it's very small, I'd say 5% or so to the top players, maybe higher on global since the quality of players in the hypers right now is so bad.

You can't approach these games like you would a typical SnG or cash game. Folding middle to low pocket pairs is pretty common. In order to profit in hypers you have to understand ICM or else you will fail. Many of the players I run across push with Ax in the early rounds from any position when the game doesn't warrant that. Or, my personal favorite, three handed and someone is sitting out and the third player is continuing to shove their small stack into me and risk bubbling when they could just fold their way to 2nd.

If you play for 1st in hypers you're going to be a losing player. There are a couple good YouTube players that you can learn from in addition to reading up on ICM.

And finally, I can't stress this enough, scroll to my first or second post in this thread about the run bad you can experience. You will never hear me call Global rigged, but you may see me make the occasional rant to blow off steam! If you can't find a way to have a healthy release of your tilt your bankroll will vanish before your eyes.

Good luck on the tables

I'm just saying that the blinds get to a point, just after 10 or 12 minutes of play where it's basically a crapshoot, starting with 3x less chips. I don't understand why any decent player wouldn't want a longer game. It's possible you wouldn't see a card above a Q in those games before having to commit you're entire stack.

Don't approach them like a "regular" game. Hypers take a completely different strategy.

I've been away from poker for quite some time and am coming back mostly due to Global, but that all seems like incredibly basic SNG strategy to me...

The majority of players there are so bad. If you know a straight beats a flush, you're already ahead of the curve.

ya obv, and the sample size for the op and lack of history from other sites, recent join date leads me to believe he's a new player. Happy to have him an others but ya lets be real here, the only way anything left on global is beatable long term is if the player pool is legit brand new or clueless, they have pushed the games as far as they can if they want to maintain any kind of a business.

@ golbal - wtf are you doing trying to sucker a bunch or people who want to play poker into playing unbeatable games? you already have a damn casino business, thats not enough for you, now you have to come after the last remnants of a poker base thats left in the US and pull all this? Shame on you.

fyp, and since thats now the reality once you add in the stupid high rake for every single game on the site, the profitability of games has shrunken or disappeared, after the new structures this company forced on us and lied about the reason, listened to the players, GP is the new amayastars.

"Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you are the sucker."

Unbeatable games?

I lol'd too. Another poker quote applies, "Don't tap the glass"

Guilty as charged. I tend to just do something different besides poker or search for an open cash game if there aren't SNGs looking ready to start. I have to get in the habit of being the first or second person to register & trust it won't be too long a wait